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Gov. Mitt Romney Tells Hannity He Would Give Obama "a Failing Grade" - Video 12/17/09
Freedom's Lighthouse ^ | December 17, 2009 | Brian

Posted on 12/17/2009 7:18:32 PM PST by Federalist Patriot

Here is video of Gov. Mitt Romney on with Sean Hannity tonight where he discussed the Democrats' push to pass a Health Care Bill in the Senate by Christmas.

On the economy, Mitt Romney said the Democrats have failed to create jobs, particularly with the Stimulus Bill passed early this year. Romney said "borrowing your way to prosperity" is a strategy that will not work.

Romney said the "American people are a lot smarter than the Democrats give them credit for." Romney said he would give Obama "a failing grade" on his performance as President thus far. Instead of focusing on what is most important, Romney said Obama is putting all his effort into ideological pursuits like his health care bill.

On Health Care, Romney said the Democrats will try to "come out with something," and that the American people will be "very, very angry" if the Democrats try to just "push something through." . . . (VIDEO)

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1 posted on 12/17/2009 7:18:33 PM PST by Federalist Patriot
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To: Federalist Patriot
Romney's words are as perfectly pretty as his hair.

And every bit as cosmetic.

2 posted on 12/17/2009 7:25:46 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Federalist Patriot; Diogenesis

So Hannity is sucking up to Slick Willard now?


3 posted on 12/17/2009 7:26:46 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Federalist Patriot

This thread is crying out for one of those ‘Tell the truth about Mitt’ headers. I miss them.


4 posted on 12/17/2009 7:31:09 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: Federalist Patriot
"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"

5 posted on 12/17/2009 7:31:43 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Federalist Patriot

One of the few times I had to change the channel from watching Hannity. What’s your stance “this” week you lousy pseudo-con?


6 posted on 12/17/2009 7:32:03 PM PST by aSeattleConservative
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

He also still has Nichol Wallace on his show. After what she sis to Sarah how could he.


7 posted on 12/17/2009 7:32:33 PM PST by Brimack34
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To: ReneeLynn

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.


8 posted on 12/17/2009 7:36:47 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: Finny

A Mitt-come lately. Karl Rove skewered Obama in an earlier article...and MUCH better than Romney could ever hope to do.

But that’s Mitt, his ability to jump on a bandwagon is remarkable. Wake me when he comes up with something original and/or is willing to take a first step.


9 posted on 12/17/2009 7:37:49 PM PST by SueRae
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To: Federalist Patriot

This is news? What would Romney say?

Especially not a Hannity fan. But Romney is a good speaker.


10 posted on 12/17/2009 7:39:24 PM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: Federalist Patriot

Palin gave Obama a 4/10 grade
Obama gave himself a B+
Romney gives Obama a F


11 posted on 12/17/2009 7:46:18 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: Federalist Patriot

Was that a failing grade because Obama is consumed by passing Romney-care?


12 posted on 12/17/2009 7:48:03 PM PST by Ingtar (Asses far Left of me; Rinos to the Left; FReepin' on the Right with you.)
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To: Federalist Patriot
Obama is part of the party that destroys:

Democrats Are The Party Of Destruction

13 posted on 12/17/2009 7:50:13 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh Is "The Passion" of Conservatism And Pretty Good At That Radio Thingy)
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To: Federalist Patriot
Bombastic Lad Hannity still giving the liberal fraud Romney a forum and perpetuating the MYTH of SLICK WILLARD RINO ROMNEYS's conservatism.

Sean better be careful, lest he be hit by the collateral damage.

14 posted on 12/17/2009 7:50:33 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Federalist Patriot

Thank you for posting this, Federalist Patriot.


15 posted on 12/17/2009 7:54:13 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: Federalist Patriot
RomneyCARE (=ObamaCARE) was OK when Romney imposed it
destroying the Massachusetts economy.

Could Romney have a brain defect or brain lesion?


Fascist dictator-carpetbagger Mitt Romney chortles
as he inflicts socialized medicine (HillaryCARE=ROmneyCARE)
upon Massachusetts citizens, without one of their votes (the ROMNEYway(TM)).

Sen. John Kerry to Don Imus on RomneyCARE=HillaryCARE: "I like this health care bill".

Sen. Hillary Clinton on RomneyCARE=HillaryCARE: "To come up with a bipartisan plan in this polarized environment is commendable."

FLASHFORWARD: TODAY:

PROOF RomneyCARE is a Disaster (and Romney is utterly clueless)

“Health Care Speechwriter for Edwards, Obama & Clinton Now Without Health Insurance”
I'm a critic because what Washington is talking about doing
has made health insurance unaffordable in Massachusetts.


“Small businesses bridle at health insurance hikes (Romneycare strangles Mass. businesses)
some really bad news from Blue Cross-Blue Shield: His company’s health insurance rates are going up 47 percent in January.”


“ Rationing medicine has already begun
… government-
run health care has introduced rationing and waiting lists and cost the lives of the people under its provisions.”


“DEATH PANELS OPEN FOR BUSINESS IN MASSACHUSETTS”


“President Obama's newly confirmed regulatory czar defended the
possibility of removing organs from terminally ill patients without their permission.”


“You can’t reap these savings without limiting patients’ choices in some way," said Paul Levy, CEO of Beth Israel Deaconess.”


“State plan may place limits on patients’ hospital options( Mass. RomneyCare )”


"Romney Visits Nebraska, Talks Health Care [where he defends Romneycare] “


"Paying the Health Tax in Massachusetts [Romneycare]
Massachusetts requires every resident to have health insurance, and this
year, without informing us directly, the state had changed the rules in a way that made
our bare-bones policy no longer acceptable. Unless we ponied up for a pricier policy we
neither need nor want—or enrolled in a government-sponsored insurance plan—we
would have to pay $1,000 each year to the state.
How did we become outlaws? “


"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood."
It was only a matter of time.
They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006."


A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State’s ‘Grand Experiment’ Fails [RomneyCare]
"Initiated on Mr. Romney’s gubernatorial watch in 2006, this “experiment” has fallen on hard times, and predictably so. “


Health care in Massachusetts: a warning for America [Romney brings Mass. to its knees]
The Bay State's mandatory insurance law is raising costs, limiting access, and lowering care.

Three years ago, Massachusetts adopted a plan requiring all residents to purchase health
insurance, with state subsidies for lower-income residents. But rather than creating a
utopia of high-quality affordable healthcare, the result has been the exact opposite –
skyrocketing costs, worsened access, and lower quality care."


"‘Severe’ doc shortage seen hiking wait time
“The shortage is getting more severe”"


“Health costs to rise again.( RomneyCare )
The state’s major health insurers plan to raise premiums by about 10 percent next year,
prompting many employers to reduce benefits and shift additional costs to workers.”


“Nation’s ill-advised to follow Mass. plan [Health plan a failure]
September 17, 2009 The canary is dead.
Massachusetts, the model for the ObamaCare universal insurance plan, is the canary in
the health care coal mine. Yesterday, its obit appeared on the front page of both The Wall
Street Journal and The Boston Globe-Democrat “


"Bay State Insurance Premiums Highest in Country - Boston Globe August 22, 2009
Massachusetts has the most expensive family health insurance premiums in the country,
according to a new analysis that highlights the state’s challenge in trying to rein in medical costs
40 percent higher than in 2003. Over the same period, premiums nationwide rose an average of 33 percent..."


"Massachusetts: the laboratory for ObamaCare“


"Massachusetts' Obama-like reforms increase health costs, wait times [RomneyCare]
Premiums are growing 21 to 46 percent faster than the national average"


"Mass. Pushes Rationing to Control Universal Healthcare Costs (RomneyCare)
A 10-member Massachusetts state healthcare advisory board unanimously recommended
that the state begin rationing healthcare to keep the state’s marquee universal health care program afloat financially.


"1,000 cancer patients 'refused treatment'"


"Massachusetts Universal Healthcare System Breaking Down Already
ERs in Massachusetts have not seen a downturn in visits. On the contrary, it seems that ER visits are actually on the upswing in the Bay State. In fact, in 2007 they were higher than the national average by 20 percent...”


"Hospital patients 'left in agony'"


"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood.
In Massachusetts's latest crisis,
They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006
Mr. Romney should have known better before signing on to this not-so-grand experiment, especially since the state's "free market" reforms that he boasts about have proven to be irrelevant when not fictional.
Only 21,000 people have used the "connector" that was supposed to link individuals to private insurers."


A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State’s ‘Grand Experiment’ Fails [RomneyCare]
… fiscal troubles aplenty within Repubican Mitt Romney’s brainchild, Massachusetts’ “grand experiment” in “universal” health care."
"Initiated on Mr. Romney’s gubernatorial watch in 2006, this “experiment” has fallen on hard times, and predictably so.
Even though the Bay State commenced its program with a far smaller percentage of uninsured residents than exists nationwide,
“RomneyCare” is threatening to bankrupt the state.“


"Dem Congresswoman Admits Obama Health Care Plan Will Destroy Private Health Insurance Industry"


"Romney’s mistreatments a sick man, as Gov. Mitt Romney meets a medical marijuana patient"

16 posted on 12/17/2009 7:54:57 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Federalist Patriot

Holy cow! A positive posting about Mitt Romney. Hey Free Republic: you better take this down quick and put up more of your Romney hate banner headlines


17 posted on 12/17/2009 8:02:26 PM PST by rman04554
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To: Rome2000
"Bombastic Lad Hannity still giving the liberal fraud Romney a forum and perpetuating the MYTH of SLICK WILLARD RINO ROMNEYS's conservatism.".

Wonder if he'll have Romney on as much during the next presidential primary season as he did Guliani in the last. I don't have much patience for him, especially when he sucks up to RINOs.
18 posted on 12/17/2009 8:10:06 PM PST by ThomasSawyer (Democratic Underground: Proof that anyone can figure out how to use a computer.)
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To: writer33
You mistake the matter in thinking that you can identify what destroys things by identifying the party that embraces it.

BIG GOVERNMENT LIBERALISM is what destroys things.

The Democrat party has openly embraced big government liberalism and nanny-state governance. But when that same big government liberalism and nanny-state governance philosophy is advocated by Republicans, as in Mitt Romney, it is EQUALLY DESTRUCTIVE.

Ceasing to elect Democrats will not save this country. CEASING TO ELECT LIBERALS is what will save this country.

Electing Republicans who advocate the same big-government interference and nanny-state governance mentality typically identified with the Democrat party will STILL destroy the nation.

If Hillary Clinton and Joe Lieberman switched parties and became Republicans, by your way of thinking, they would then be legit "saviors."

LIBERALISM is the tool of destruction; the party is irrelevant.

19 posted on 12/17/2009 8:10:51 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: rman04554
Only a sucker would automatically believe that when Romney says the pretty words people want to hear, that it's "positive." Get a clue -- Romney will say what you want to hear in order for you to say what he wants to hear you say about him.
20 posted on 12/17/2009 8:13:38 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Finny
LIBERALISM is the tool of destruction; the party is irrelevant.

I would argue that point, considering what party destroys things and has for over forty years. The party is not irrelevant. They embody liberalism. They applaud liberalism, and they are now pushing liberalism on America. The Republican Party never sought to destroy the greatest country in the world by enslaving the citizens within it.

21 posted on 12/17/2009 8:14:13 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh Is "The Passion" of Conservatism And Pretty Good At That Radio Thingy)
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To: Federalist Patriot

notice, Hannity is leaning left? scary


22 posted on 12/17/2009 8:30:23 PM PST by FreeperFlirt
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To: Finny

That is pretty much true of every politician even conservatives, wouldn’t you agree?


23 posted on 12/17/2009 8:50:58 PM PST by rman04554
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To: rman04554

The owner of this forum says this is a conservative forum, and that Romney isn’t a conservative. I happen to agree with him.

If you don’t agree, perhaps you would be happier on a RINO forum.


24 posted on 12/17/2009 9:05:46 PM PST by webschooner
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To: aSeattleConservative

Hannity also has a man-crush on Pewt Gingrich.


25 posted on 12/17/2009 9:13:56 PM PST by Britt0n
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To: rman04554
Nope. If I thought that was true, I'd never cast a vote.

Cynicism is a retreat for those who lack courage.

26 posted on 12/17/2009 10:55:42 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: writer33
TODAY the Republican party has power-players within it -- Romney being one -- who seek to destroy things the same way, and by the same means, as Democrats. That those Republicans claim otherwise doesn't alter the fact.

Case in point: Romney would enact laws prohibiting employers from discriminating against open homosexuality in the workplace; he would engage in crippling enterprise, production, and the economy in the name of "saving" the environment. He would give the government power over the private health insurance decisions of, and relationships between, individuals, their employers, insurance companies, and medical professionals.

The destruction doesn't originate in the party label. It originates in those who advocate finding solutions through bigger, more intrusive government at the expense of individual freedom. This is why third party advocates are so mistaken -- the solution isn't to attack any party; it's to attack BIG GOVERNMENT LIBERALS, and while it is true that they dominate the Democrat party, they are also very much in evidence in the Republican party. It is wrong to think that rejecting the Republican party would provide a solution; the solution lies in rejecting LIBERALS within the Republican party as well as those in the Democrat party.

Indeed, I maintain that it is considerably more urgent to reject them in the Republican party than it is to reject them in the Democrat party. Liberalism in the Democrat party is zero threat to the Republican party; liberalism in the Republican party threatens the very freedom and prosperity of the nation because it sabotages the Republican party's future as a bastion against big government liberalism.

27 posted on 12/17/2009 11:13:29 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: webschooner

No, it’s more than that...the owner of this site has an irrational hatred of Romney.

It’s very Stalinist of you to accuse anyone who disagrees with you to be a RINO. This is the same behavior you see in the Dem’s..perhaps you should join them


28 posted on 12/18/2009 1:45:33 AM PST by rman04554
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To: Finny

Really? I lack courage because I think most pol’s are corrupt?...That’s quite a stretch...34 years in the Navy, 2 tours in Iraq.....I don’t think I’ll worry too much that my cynicism is a sign of cowardice


29 posted on 12/18/2009 1:51:26 AM PST by rman04554
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To: rman04554

Sorry, I was a Romney supporter in MA. He is exceptional even for a pol in how calculating and frequently adjusting he is in his positions according to the constituency that he is courting. He is off the charts in pandering.

Also, with that backdrop and more thoroughly dyed hair once again, he looks not only like a talking portrait in this interview—but like a portrait of Dorian Gray.


30 posted on 12/18/2009 2:04:51 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: rman04554

Those who have been impacted by Mr. Romney and his
fascist, liberal, shapeshifting tactics, do not think
being disgusted with his behavior is “irrational”.


31 posted on 12/18/2009 4:13:59 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Diogenesis

There are way more RINO’s that have done far more damage than Romney...i.e Huckabee, McCain, Snowe. I don’t see Free Republic running non-stop hate postings on them. This smells like anti-Mormon bigotry to me


32 posted on 12/18/2009 4:42:12 AM PST by rman04554
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To: rman04554

I was polite and pointed out facts about this forum that apparently don’t fit your views.

And you resort to name calling — calling me a Stalinist ... You are the one who is behaving like a Dem/Leftist — that is their pattern of behavior.

Romney is a RINO and no conservative, and this is a conservative site, and those are facts, and when told that, you get your panties in a wad. Go to a RINO site, rude one.


33 posted on 12/18/2009 5:29:05 AM PST by webschooner
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, FYI, you might want to check this out: rman04554’s post #17 complaining about FR’s treatment of Romney, then my polite response in #24, pointing out that perhaps since the owner says this is a conservative site and that Romney is a RINO and therefore it appears that perhaps he’d be happier at a RINO site.

In post #28, rman04554 goes on to attack you (and calls me a Stalinist in the process for pointing out these facts about this forum to him). Have a great day, Jim, and Merry Christmas!


34 posted on 12/18/2009 5:51:24 AM PST by webschooner
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To: webschooner

OK, I reached a conclusion about you...you are a jerk and an effeminate pantywaist


35 posted on 12/18/2009 7:24:30 AM PST by rman04554
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To: rman04554

Since only Romney hides behind his religion,
and since only RomneyBOTs bring up the “antiMormon”-mantra
to avoid dealing with Romney’s past performance,
since no other Mormons have ever brought up Romney’s
ultracowardly claim of “antiMormon”-defense
of his rapacious gay, fisting, dictatorship,
and since other RINOs are absolutely criticized
(are you serious to claim Snowe is supported?),
it would seem your allegation is proven false.


36 posted on 12/18/2009 7:38:45 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
So Hannity is sucking up to Slick Willard now?

Hannity and Romney sitting in a tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g
First comes love, then comes .....
37 posted on 12/18/2009 7:41:17 AM PST by VastRWCon (Drill Baby Drill - Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: webschooner

no.. this is NO longer a conservative site ... as you found out this has become a name calling site.

God help you if you speak out against RINO’s

God Help you if you have a typo

God help you if a misspelled word gets in your text

God help you if you criticisze the precious republican party (little “r”) .. the dem lite party of the day.

That will draw the ire of the small thinking people on this board like a cowpie draws flies

And as soon as you speak fact showing the extreme absurdity of RINOS like romney, mcLoser, newt, julie awnies, powells and huckaphonies you will draw fire every time.

I’m called a liberal democrat all the time, in reality the reason I’m so vocal is that I’m tired of watching watered down conservatism. Dem lite. You had better vote RINO if that is your choice ... God help you if you voice a house cleaning is in order. No I will NEVER suport or vote for a RINO agin. I held my nose witth mcLoser ... next time I leave the block blank.

Ask anyone on this board to name 5 conservative senators with a spine or leadership capabilities. Ask for 5 reps with the same quals .... no one will answer yet many will give you you grief.

I seldom post anymore or read like I used to. its a waste of time with a few wasted morons. You are not alone.


38 posted on 12/18/2009 7:50:54 AM PST by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: rman04554

Shhh, dont speak to loudly about Romney. Another post on this thread has the guy you are talking with reporting on your “pro-Romney” stances.

And yeah, McCain, Snowe, Graham, Crist and the like have far more impact right now. They are actually in office and can affect people. Right now, Romney can only talk. Its like Rush says, he has no impact on your daily life right now unless you let him. Some people seem to let him.


39 posted on 12/18/2009 8:23:53 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Raider Sam

Thanks for the heads up Raider Sam...I’ll pretend like I’m a Pawlenty (yawwnn) supporter for now so I’m not banned


40 posted on 12/18/2009 8:45:53 AM PST by rman04554
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
So Hannity is sucking up to Slick Willard now?

He has been a big suck up to Mitt the Twit since he had the revelation that "America's Mayor" was not going to get the 2008 nomination. Sean is all about "who you know and who you blow".

41 posted on 12/18/2009 8:58:37 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: webschooner

Freep Mitt and the socialist horse he rode in on.


42 posted on 12/18/2009 9:24:46 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Join the TEA Party Rebellion!! God save this great Republic!!)
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To: Federalist Patriot

ObamaCare = RomneyCare! Screw Mitt!!


43 posted on 12/18/2009 9:25:50 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Join the TEA Party Rebellion!! God save this great Republic!!)
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To: Finny
Indeed, I maintain that it is considerably more urgent to reject them in the Republican party than it is to reject them in the Democrat party. Liberalism in the Democrat party is zero threat to the Republican party; liberalism in the Republican party threatens the very freedom and prosperity of the nation because it sabotages the Republican party's future as a bastion against big government liberalism.

Of course, but I was not addressing that. I was addressing the Democrat Party. We already know we need to clean up the Republican Party. That's not what I was talking about. The Democrat Party is a threat to the entire nation, even more than RINOs.

44 posted on 12/18/2009 9:52:11 AM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh Is "The Passion" of Conservatism And Pretty Good At That Radio Thingy)
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To: rman04554

I am completely indifferent to what a rude name-calling nimrod such as yourself concludes about me ... or anyone or anything else. Go play in traffic, mud-throwing socialist lover.

Check out DU ... that’s where you belong with the rest of the socialists and fascists.


45 posted on 12/18/2009 11:25:00 AM PST by webschooner
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To: Jim Robinson

+1 to that, Jim.

Merry Christmas to you and your family. I hope your health is holding up.


46 posted on 12/18/2009 11:26:12 AM PST by webschooner
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To: Raider Sam
Right now, Romney can only talk. Its like Rush says, he has no impact on your daily life right now unless you let him.

Excuse me, Raider Sam, that is mistaken. Non-RINO Republicans like Palin and Rubio already face a drain on their resources fighting Democrats and the MSM. Guys like Romney further sap their resources because they also throw obstacles in their path. You are fooling yourself if you think Romney is just being a harmless little nobody. He's a LEECH on the resources of Republicans who understand the importance of bucking RINOs.

47 posted on 12/18/2009 2:35:41 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: writer33
Again, I deg to biffer (!!!) and I know I am bucking the tide and that my take on this is entirely counter to convention. That's too bad -- my counter-conventional thinking has proven correct entirely too many times for me to doubt it just because most people I respect and admire disagree with it. I've learned to trust my judgment because it's so often correct.

I have concluded after many years of observation that indeed, you have it backward. RINOs are a bigger threat to the nation than the Democrat party because unlike Democrats, RINOs can destroy from within the future hope and growth of the Republican party -- and that would be deadly because a small-government Republican party IS THE ONLY CHANCE WE HAVE of combatting and defeating the liberalism that makes the Democrat party so dangerous.

Again, LIBERALISM is the real enemy here -- not the Democrat party. LIBERALISM within the Republican party is a bigger long-term threat to our nation than liberalism in the Democrat party.

48 posted on 12/18/2009 2:47:33 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Finny

For the last time, you cannot advance and ideology without a party. I would use charts and graphs but this is simple. In this case, you are wrong, wrong, wrong. Just look at history and that tells you that a party must be behind the ideology.


49 posted on 12/18/2009 3:08:59 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh Is "The Passion" of Conservatism And Pretty Good At That Radio Thingy)
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To: Finny

Liberalism = Democrat Party.


50 posted on 12/18/2009 3:10:28 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh Is "The Passion" of Conservatism And Pretty Good At That Radio Thingy)
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