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WILL WE CHOOSE SLAVERY?
MestaMachine | December 19, 2009 | MestaMachine

Posted on 12/19/2009 8:00:05 PM PST by MestaMachine

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To: MestaMachine; B4Ranch; SouthTexas; Grampa Dave; happydogx2; SierraWasp; marsh2; fish hawk

We will will win this when we can turn the TV news to a more non-biased entity because the masses form their opinions there...


141 posted on 08/05/2010 5:45:39 PM PDT by tubebender (Life is short so drink the good wine first...)
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To: B4Ranch
Thanks for the ping...

Actively waiting, watching, prepping, and Praying...

142 posted on 08/05/2010 7:00:22 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: the anti-mahdi; MestaMachine
You nailed it. I believe we will be under martial law and ruled by executive order by September 2010.

Could be. The beginning date of the Finnish 1918 Civil War, the XX Century's most probable analagous event, is generally given as 26 January, when a group of Reds climbed the tower of Helsinki Workers' Hall and lit a red lantern to mark the start of the second major rebellion in the history of Finland. From this the term Raise the red lantern* comes, meaning to begin the dance.

In just four months, the Finns managed to kill off about one percent of the national population, impressive in that in the U.S. we paid a butcher's bill of about 2% during our own Civil War, but that was over the much longer period of 18651-1865. And in Finland, only around 25% of those killed died of what called combat wounds; the rest were summary executions, deaths in subzero POW camps, or subsequent judicial executions for treason.

It was a very busy four months, indeed. You'd do well to study that conflict, its origins and causes, and the eventual result. But now, almost a hundred years later, there's still a free Finland, and that makes up for a lot of the cost.


143 posted on 08/05/2010 7:56:13 PM PDT by archy
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To: Jack Black

Thanks for the ping. I missed this the first time around.


144 posted on 08/05/2010 8:11:12 PM PDT by ChowChowFace
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To: B4Ranch; MestaMachine
Thanks for the ping, B4.

God bless you, Mestamachine. You surely share a bloodline with the Minutemen.

~ joanie

145 posted on 08/05/2010 8:21:12 PM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: Munz; Ezekiel; cripplecreek; Chickensoup; PeterPrinciple; DTogo; stylecouncilor; ...

“There is no denying that we have lost so much over time. But the core of the problem is that people accept it as the norm. That was the plan from 100 years ago, forget republicans or democrats.”

Yes, that was the plan, and they have been uniquely one-minded in following it and seeing it through. I don’t think people accept it as the norm. I think people accept it because they think they have no choice...and still believe that some way, somehow, THIS is Anerica and that we are still free, so SOMEHOW, everything will turn out alright.
It is this belief in the IDEA of America that keeps them plodding along in the daily grind, overwhelmed by the all-encompassing reach of government into their lives.

“People have grown to accept this as a way of life and get so busy in their daily routines that they will not stop to think, get angry and take the stand to change it.”

They think, and when they do, they see a massive bureaucracy that they believe they cannot fight or fight through. For most people, the bureaucracy has become an entity unto itself. It is the wall that shields the political elite from the will of the people. So many rules and regulations. People are not accepting. They are numb. They are in shock. They live in fear and confusion. And that is what gives the elite their power.
Ronald Reagan, G-d rest his soul, said it very loudly and very clearly, in another country standing in front of a another wall on a cold day. “Mr. Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL.”
And the wall was taken down, brick by brick.
The problem was that it was a real wall that you could see and touch. It was a symbol. The wall came down, but the REAL wall, the mind behind the wall, only slept for awhile and regained its strength. Shackles of the mind are the hardest to break. THAT wall never fell. And it was still very busy building that same wall here.
Here, on THIS soil, in THIS sacred land, they rose up their wall. And the influx of fascist islam is building ITS wall in our midst. They have delared victory and will build themselves a monument atop the destruction they caused.

“What they will do is get a bit angry over one or two core issues. This is what we must focus on and channel that energy by the individual to one singular cause that matters to them.”

That is political rhetoric and pretty words. SMALL groups protesting ONE issue that matters to them has gained us what, exactly?
Is abortion still legal? Has out OWN government forced OTHER countries in this world to accept abortion as a prerequisite for aid from us? Has our government spread this abomination through the IMF and the UN?
YES,it has.
Is the new obamacare abomination going to force our tax dollars to pay for abortion on demand, making it easier, not harder, to obtain the slaughter of innocents?
YES. It is.
Did we not vote, as a whole people, to keep marriage between a man and a woman sacred? Has the WILL of the PEOPLE been overturned and undermined and thrown back in our faces by GOVERNMENT APPOINTED JUDGES?
YES. It has.
Have we not formed groups and joined organizations to restore our right to keep and bear arms? Have we not stepped up, state by state, and finally gotten “permission” from the Supreme Court to fulfil that right...with restrictions? Has the government not only kept the restrictions, but added more? Are we FREE to keep and bear arms?
Not no, but HELL no.
Do WE have control over our schools? Do we even have control of our own children anymore?
NO. We don’t. And the government is seeking even more control of our children.
The recent, highly publicized fight over the Texas school book commission won a few small victories for what MIGHT be in our children’s textbooks. But WHO controls the classrooms?
You? Me?
NO. We don’t.

“Help them get involved in small groups that they can make larger - then they can make positive changes over time just as negative changes have been made. OVER TIME!”

Three letters. TEA.
That sure worked out well, didn’t it? We marched. We went to townhalls. We protested in MASSIVE numbers and the congress thumbed their noses at us. They mocked us. And the bureaucracy has grown exponentially. It controls virtually every single facet of our lives...from how many vitamins we can take, to how many calories we can eat. The TEA Partues are busy fighting amongst themselves. They medicate our children whether we want them to or not.
OVER TIME, THESE children will be them. Don’t you understand?
THERE IS NO MORE TIME!

“If you attempted to storm buildings and take over the government complexes as it stands you would be annihilated and the resistance to return the United States to a free nation would be squashed like an insect. You can NOT get enough people to do it and the military would be called out to defend against the people who are revolting as terrorists. WHY? Because they also accept this as the norm.”

That is what the article is about. That is the conclusion I reached before even posting the article. The WHOLE people will not do it. If the whole of the people WOULD do it, NO one could squash us. And the military is STILL our families. The number of people who would have to do this would leave no doubt, even in the minds of the military, that this is the Constitutional PEOPLE they swore to defend. They did not take an oath to defend a corrupt and illegitimate bureacracy OR a dictator who signs executive orders in the dead of night that changes our lives in ways we have yet to understand, giving even MORE power to himself while destroying our country and everything it was ever supposed to stand for.

“The only way that you can do what is suggested is if the military is behind you. If not, then the only way to get our civilization back to a free nation is through legislative changes and awakening the people who can vote, protest and force that change slowly over time so it becomes the norm.”

The TIME is now. By the time your slow pot cooks, the entire military will be so changed in its fundamental structure and tenets, we will not recognize it. It will no longer be OUR military. It will be theirs.

“We did not become this nanny state over night, we can not change it back over night. Take all that energy and educate people, get them involved, bring more and more people in even on a singular issue t hat they can work on.”

We absolutely MUST change it overnight. Because ONE of these nights, we will not HAVE a country to change. With a final stroke of the pen,it will be GONE.
What are we? Children in a classroom working on kid projects in little teams for a collective grade? Little individual projects they can work on to improve team spirit to make them seem relevant, when in the end, they are meaningless because the TEACHER controls the classroom?

“Many people working on singular issues have made these dramatic changes over time and made it the norm. This is the only real way to bring it back to how it should be.”

Mix, stir, repeat.

“Now is the best time in history to do this. We have a complete fascist in the White House.”
“Now is the best time in history to do this. We have a complete fascist in the White House.”
“Now is the best time in history to do this. We have a complete fascist in the White House.”

“Obama in a twisted way has become our savior I say. Not because he is making all these wonderful changes, but because he is upsetting the nation and awakening them with socialism. NOW we can motivate people and get them to act easier than any time in the past 100 years.”

Then HERE is the ONE issue of it MUST be ONE issue.
It is called The Constitution of the United States of America.
But first,
Pay attention:
IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

It is our RIGHT and our DUTY. Does anyone even understand this anymore????????????????


146 posted on 08/06/2010 1:19:12 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: MestaMachine; All

” Three letters. TEA.
That sure worked out well, didn’t it? We marched. We went to townhalls. We protested in MASSIVE numbers and the congress thumbed their noses at us. They mocked us. And the bureaucracy has grown exponentially. It controls virtually every single facet of our lives...from how many vitamins we can take, to how many calories we can eat. The TEA Partues are busy fighting amongst themselves. They medicate our children whether we want them to or not.
OVER TIME, THESE children will be them. Don’t you understand?
THERE IS NO MORE TIME! “

I have posted many times that we cannot survive 2 more years of Obama, and his pen. I hereby repeat it.


147 posted on 08/06/2010 6:17:00 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (.)
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To: MestaMachine

I appreciate your spirit. I also understand everything that you are saying.
But has there been backfires upon the power elite because of Abortion issues taken up as one cause?
Are there power issues taken up on home schooling, RTKBA, Health care and everything else because they were treated as singular issues by the masses as I suggested?
YES

Your frustration will only end up being like the radicals of the 60’s who tried to storm buildings and were promptly turned away with fire hoses and made to look like creeps in the news. It can ONLY work against us.

If you set off a fuse like that, the powder keg that blows up will not be upon them but US.

While we have the moral majority and we do. While there is corruption going unchecked and it is. Is the time to stoke the fires of freedom and liberty. But the fires must be controlled lest they burn US


148 posted on 08/06/2010 1:31:49 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: cripplecreek; MestaMachine
Greetings from Dave now in New Mexico!

Thanks to you both for a good re-read!

Occupy the U.S. Capitol? It SHOULD be done. It is ours. And YES WE CAN! But as you ask, will we?

I think the stars would have to line up just right. And perhaps they might.

149 posted on 08/06/2010 9:28:17 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (We need to limit political office holders to two terms. One in office, and one in prison.)
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To: MestaMachine

Keeping a great post alive BUMP.


150 posted on 08/14/2010 5:07:39 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: snippy_about_it

Thank you


151 posted on 08/14/2010 2:52:49 PM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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