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US Military Forces Refusing Orders from Barack Obama and Taking it to Court (Video)
2setufree / YouTube ^ | December 25, | 2setufree

Posted on 12/26/2009 8:02:56 PM PST by USALiberty

US Military Forces are refusing to take Orders from Obama unless he can prove he is a US Citizen. They plan Court action as theie Lawyers are taking Briefs as we speak.

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This is NOT going to go away! Go bless the military!
1 posted on 12/26/2009 8:02:57 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: USALiberty

later look.


2 posted on 12/26/2009 8:05:22 PM PST by marvlus
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To: USALiberty

While they dink around with this crap Obama steals the country. Time and resources can be better spent on winning elections and preparing the difficult and long term task of rolling this socialist monster back.


3 posted on 12/26/2009 8:07:38 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: Patrick1

It’s ONE of the battles....of the WAR on many fronts....


4 posted on 12/26/2009 8:10:51 PM PST by goodnesswins (Become a Precinct Committee Person/Officer....in the GOP...or do NOT complain.)
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To: USALiberty

The entire military would have to refuse his orders for it to make a difference — and then it would amount to a military coup — NOT a patriotic insurrection for freedom (that is, at least, how the world would see it and the press would portray it).

If this change is going to come, we as free citizens must make this stand — NOT the military. We already ask them to fight and die to protect us overseas, apart from their families. Asking them to mutiny on our behalf after all they’ve already done is more than they should have to bear. It’s time for the patriots at home to stand. If the military here as citizens (NOT as organized military units under orders from mutineers) wish to take part, so be it. All I ask is that these brave men and women NOT shoot us if/when we must stand against the Washington DC regime...


5 posted on 12/26/2009 8:12:44 PM PST by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: goodnesswins

This battle is lost. He was born in Hawaii and that is the way it is. We can fight this socialist in better ways.


6 posted on 12/26/2009 8:13:07 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: USALiberty

This is more Orly Taitz (or however you spell it) stuff.

It is not going to go anywhere, no matter how much we would like it to.

Plus, who is the guy doing the monologue in the “video” ?


7 posted on 12/26/2009 8:14:10 PM PST by Nik Naym (Palin. Got that? Palin. <---Right there is your answer!)
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To: Patrick1
While they dink around with this crap Obama steals the country.

There is nothing insignificant about demanding BO obey the Constitution.
8 posted on 12/26/2009 8:16:21 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Nik Naym
It is not going to go anywhere, no matter how much we would like it to.

This issue is not only not going away but continues to grow.
9 posted on 12/26/2009 8:17:25 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Patrick1
Patrick,

Help me with the basic information:

(1) What hospital was Obama born in?

(2) What physician attended his birth?

(3) What public documents support your answers?

10 posted on 12/26/2009 8:23:26 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

haw dere u qwestion da zee-roh? da’ gulag foh’ yu!!! schwein-hund!


11 posted on 12/26/2009 8:29:17 PM PST by robomatik
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To: Patrick1

“He was born in Hawaii.”

Prove it.


12 posted on 12/26/2009 8:42:30 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: patriot preacher
All I ask is that these brave men and women NOT shoot us if/when we must stand against the Washington DC regime

That might be enough to ask of the rank and file troops. But the GENERALS owe us a lot more.
13 posted on 12/26/2009 8:45:18 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: patriot preacher
The entire military would have to refuse his orders for it to make a difference — and then it would amount to a military coup — NOT a patriotic insurrection for freedom (that is, at least, how the world would see it and the press would portray it).

I really don't care how the world sees it or how the press portrays it. A coup is where the military replace the entire depth and breadth of national government, or assume the power to appoint who will govern and how.

Simply refusing to accept questionable authority is not a coup.

It is sad when manipulating activists play with language.

In a different place with different players, similar action would be labeled "passive resistance," a brave and noble thing.

Isn't that cute?

14 posted on 12/26/2009 8:57:47 PM PST by Publius6961 (…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: BnBlFlag

The two birth announcements in both Honolulu newspapers at the time don’t count I guess?


15 posted on 12/26/2009 8:58:11 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: zeestephen

Apparently this one: Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women & Children, Hawaii.

I don’t know the doctor, I don’t mine either. Do you know yours?

The certificate of birth that is supported by the current Republican Governor of Hawaii.


16 posted on 12/26/2009 9:01:17 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: Patrick1
Nice response. Unfortunately, this crowd is dug in on this issue and will never concede an ounce of sanity. This issue satisfies an emotional need for some, not an intellectual or patriotic one.
17 posted on 12/26/2009 9:06:19 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: Patrick1
The two birth announcements in both Honolulu newspapers at the time don’t count I guess?

Haven't you heard? The conspiracy to usurp the Presidency goes back to the day he was born. In 1961, an American teenager Stanley Ann Dunham travels in secret (as there are no records of her ever visiting Kenya) from Hawaii to a third world country specifically to give birth, smuggles her baby back into the States while having newspaper announcements submitted by her mother to cover up the foreign birth.

Makes sense, doesn't it?

18 posted on 12/26/2009 9:14:30 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Patrick1
Yes, I do know my doctor.

In case I ever forget his name, or forget the hospital I was born in, I can just look at my birth certificate to refresh my memory.

The hospital and doctor aren't on Obama’s birth certificate.

What public document did you consult to identify the hospital?

19 posted on 12/26/2009 9:17:45 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Patrick1

Not much of a “visionary”, are you. The best defense is a good offense. Make him defend his policies and even his “right” to implement them. Attack from all fronts.


20 posted on 12/26/2009 9:18:55 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Patrick1

The two birth announcements in both Honolulu newspapers at the time don’t count I guess?

Nope! Anybody could have put the announcements in the paper.


21 posted on 12/26/2009 9:19:55 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: BnBlFlag

Did Obama kill Kennedy too?


22 posted on 12/26/2009 9:22:15 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: Drew68
Drew,

One thing I haven't heard.

What public document (or documents) generated the two newspaper announcements?

The “Short Form” birth certificate that was released by the Obama campaign in 2007 did not exist in 1961.

23 posted on 12/26/2009 9:27:52 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Patrick1

No, they don’t count, Patrick. Can you get a passport with newspaper announcements? Hell no!

Are you drinking Democrat kool-aid?


24 posted on 12/26/2009 9:34:35 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Patrick1

“Did Obama kill Kennedy too?”

What a stupid reply. You sound like a DU Troll!


25 posted on 12/26/2009 9:36:41 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Man50D

This issue can grow all it wants. It isn’t going to go anywhere.

Now if you really want to do something to get rid of Obama, here is what you do:

Gather up 11 other people and then you call yourself a “jury”. No, make that a “grand jury”.

Actually, you need a more impressive name...let me think... I know! Call yourselves “The American Grand Jury” and indict Obama for some thing or other.

Then, write up “press releases” and post them on a blog on the internet. Then, put links to them here on FR with a new thread. This will lend “legitimacy” to the “grand jury” indictments.

Never mind what the real judges say when you try to “present the indictment” to their courts.

Oh, and be sure you and all your friends jump all over anyone on FR who dares question the legitimacy of your jury. That is a crucial part, as it will help you win friends and influence people.

Do I have to do all the thinking around here? Why didn’t somebody else come up with this brilliant and productive idea?


26 posted on 12/26/2009 9:38:17 PM PST by Nik Naym (Palin. Got that? Palin. <---Right there is your answer!)
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To: Patrick1
Hell no. Newspaper placements are paid for. Show the Birth Cert and ALL of the admission papers to college. But 0Bamy won't because it will prove that he is not of this country. The left has always said “What is the problem showing nothing is wrong if you have nothing to hide or are not guilty”
27 posted on 12/26/2009 9:41:55 PM PST by SledgeCS (The Zoo has an African lion, and the White House has a Lying African...)
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To: Patrick1

No, they don’t count. They were generated automatically (as bureaucracies go) upon submission of paperwork claiming a birth. That paperwork, and its official “long form” consequence, remains concealed/suppressed/forged/shredded/whatever. As far as we know it was submitted by his grandmother claiming an “at-home birth” when he was actually flown to HI mere days after birth in Kenya (as the airlines would not let his mother on board so close to delivery lest he be born in-flight); yes, assorted circumstantial evidence indicates this is a viable theory.

If we could see the “long form”, all questions would go away. McCain faced similar questions, and promptly opened his records for resolution - why not the Obama?


28 posted on 12/26/2009 9:45:16 PM PST by ctdonath2 (It from fit.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Actually, foolish offensives are a fairly common ingredient of military disasters. Attacking Obama’s “right” to implement his policies makes conservatives look both foolish and like spoiled brats who want to take their football and go home every time they don't win. Neither contributes positively to taking on Obama’s policies.
29 posted on 12/26/2009 9:46:59 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: tired_old_conservative

He isn’t Constitutionally eligible to be President. We should ignore the Constitution? Like he does? I don’t think so.


30 posted on 12/26/2009 9:50:32 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: tired_old_conservative

I agree this is not an issue to (much) waste political time on. BUT, the whole idea that BHO has spent a megabuck keeping his BC sealed is weird. NONE of us can do that and proceed to do that and live a normal life, like get a driver’s license, take a cruise, get a passport, etc. So yeah, it’s just too weird and uncalled for on BHO’s part.


31 posted on 12/26/2009 9:52:16 PM PST by Clock King (There's no way to fix D.C.)
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To: SledgeCS

But why place the announcement at all if he is just another child flown into the country from elsewhere? Surely you don’t think Obama was planned to be President all along?

I thought he was the Messiah not Moses.


32 posted on 12/26/2009 9:52:36 PM PST by Patrick1
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>" This battle is lost. He was born in Hawaii and that is the way it is."

Thank you Chrissy.

So where is his BIRTH CERTIFICATE POSTED?

Huh? ......

Where is it?

The Birthers will go away when he produces it.

Where's the BC?

33 posted on 12/26/2009 9:57:03 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you," O " you most proud, said the said the Lord GOD of hosts)
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To: Patrick1
Birth announcements are normal. Why not do it? No one is necessarily saying it's a conspiracy because he was going to be President. But there WAS something going on as his parents never lived together.

Tell me, why not just release his BC?

34 posted on 12/26/2009 9:58:46 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Patrick1
This battle is lost. He was born in Hawaii and that is the way it is. We can fight this socialist in better ways.

Even if that's true, he's still ineligible. His father was not an American citizen and BHO had dual citizenship. That means he ain't an NBC.

35 posted on 12/26/2009 10:02:21 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
His father was not an American citizen and BHO had dual citizenship. That means he ain't an NBC.

Only in birther fantasyland.

36 posted on 12/26/2009 10:09:30 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Patrick1

You don’t have a single solitary clue about that which you speak.

Have you been keeping up with this since July ‘08? Like many here?

I don’t think so.


37 posted on 12/26/2009 10:10:15 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: DJ MacWoW
why not just release his BC?

Isn't that a damn conundrum.

The SOB is a LIAR and cannot backup his lineage. It is very clear at this point.

38 posted on 12/26/2009 10:10:24 PM PST by eyedigress ( now.)
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To: eyedigress

Yes. And as usual, this thread is an Obama troll magnet.


39 posted on 12/26/2009 10:13:21 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: little jeremiah

I have been following this silly stuff. Just like I follow the Sarah Palin worship, Ron Paul foolishness and Duncan Hunter for President joke-a-thon.

The point remains. There is simply no evidence or statements that contradict that Obama was born in Hawaii. There is a document released by the state of Hawaii, confirmed by the Republican Governor of the state plus a hospital that Obama says and the White House says he was born in that has not been contradicted by that hospital. Plus birth announcements in the local newspapers at the time.

I really don’t see why we have to continue with this stupidity when there are so many other issues that we can fight this guy on.


40 posted on 12/26/2009 10:16:20 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: Patrick1

Try reading some of the certifigate threads before opening your piehole. He’s not a natural born citizen regardless of where he was born as required under the United States Constitution. [He’s a SELF-ADMITTED dual born citizen]

The fact is we don’t know where he was born, if he was born out of country say Canada or Kenya, he may not even be a U.S. citizen.

Either way you look at it, he’s a USURPER. This is the BIGGEST STORY IN AMERICAN HISTORY.


41 posted on 12/26/2009 10:18:43 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Well, we didn't get dressed up for nothin')
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Patrick1, if it is as you say, then why all the big fuss over nothing. Why is the gov. of Hawaii ordered to place the so called birth certificate inside a vault where no one can see it, and who ordered the gov. to take these steps when it would be so easy to show the world the truth ? Instead George Soros or someone is paying out millions to keep this thing hidden from the public. Why? Obama’s first act in office as president was to seal all his past records from everyone. Do you not think that is a bit strange for a sitting president of the United States and wonder why he gave this order to prevent anyone from finding out the truth of the matter when it would be so simple to do otherwise? THIS MATTER WILL NEVER DIE Patrick1 because America does not know who this man is!


42 posted on 12/26/2009 10:20:11 PM PST by Macgedos
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To: DJ MacWoW

Not all of the posters here are pro-obumma, but anti-certificate wannabes. I know not their cause, other than scared of being put into a certifigate hole. Let them be, as they will be the first to drop your back.


43 posted on 12/26/2009 10:21:50 PM PST by eyedigress ( now.)
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To: USALiberty

I enlisted when I was old enough. If it were now and zero was cic, I would protes day and night till he proved. Whats the big deal.

Those guys had better be left alone by the brass too.
They have every right to follow the law of the land. The military is a profesion but issues such as these divide the mind and reduce focus on the mission getting people killed.


44 posted on 12/26/2009 10:21:58 PM PST by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: eyedigress

I seldom address them. Every point they bring up has been repeatedly refuted. And they persist. I’ve been on and off these threads since before the election. Some of the dumb statements are amazing.


45 posted on 12/26/2009 10:26:41 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW; eyedigress
And as usual, this thread is an Obama troll magnet.

Yeah, but please don't get carried away with the troll issue.

It may be that they are more correct than you, once the truth is known. Obama is lying and hiding something, the question is what and why?

Besides, without someone to debate (or edumakate), what you gonna you do with your nights now, Mr. DJ?

(obscure reference to a science fiction book. Guess the name)

46 posted on 12/26/2009 10:31:53 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: DJ MacWoW

Repeatedly refuted by whom?


47 posted on 12/26/2009 10:32:39 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: DJ MacWoW

I ask for one thing and I do not hang out on these threads as well. If that SOB will not show his birthright, the ones that defend that action are dishonest in themselves. (we all answer to the same)


48 posted on 12/26/2009 10:34:21 PM PST by eyedigress ( now.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Don’t know the book. And that’s Mrs DJ. :-)


49 posted on 12/26/2009 10:34:41 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: eyedigress

A lot of them like Nancydrew have dogs in the fight. They have children, wives, relatives who are not ‘natural born citizens’.

These idiots think that running for President or Vice-President of the United States is a right, which it most certainly is not. The natural born citizen requirement was put in the Constitution for national security reasons. Yet he ‘hounds’ these eligibility threads trying to convince people that the Constitutional REQUIREMENTS are not really fair or they don’t mean what they say.

It’s hard to tell the DU Trolls from the emotionally crippled ‘freepers’ with too much skin in the game.


50 posted on 12/26/2009 10:36:56 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Well, we didn't get dressed up for nothin')
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