Posted on 12/26/2009 8:02:56 PM PST by USALiberty
US Military Forces are refusing to take Orders from Obama unless he can prove he is a US Citizen. They plan Court action as theie Lawyers are taking Briefs as we speak.
(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...
later look.
While they dink around with this crap Obama steals the country. Time and resources can be better spent on winning elections and preparing the difficult and long term task of rolling this socialist monster back.
It’s ONE of the battles....of the WAR on many fronts....
The entire military would have to refuse his orders for it to make a difference — and then it would amount to a military coup — NOT a patriotic insurrection for freedom (that is, at least, how the world would see it and the press would portray it).
If this change is going to come, we as free citizens must make this stand — NOT the military. We already ask them to fight and die to protect us overseas, apart from their families. Asking them to mutiny on our behalf after all they’ve already done is more than they should have to bear. It’s time for the patriots at home to stand. If the military here as citizens (NOT as organized military units under orders from mutineers) wish to take part, so be it. All I ask is that these brave men and women NOT shoot us if/when we must stand against the Washington DC regime...
This battle is lost. He was born in Hawaii and that is the way it is. We can fight this socialist in better ways.
This is more Orly Taitz (or however you spell it) stuff.
It is not going to go anywhere, no matter how much we would like it to.
Plus, who is the guy doing the monologue in the “video” ?
Help me with the basic information:
(1) What hospital was Obama born in?
(2) What physician attended his birth?
(3) What public documents support your answers?
haw dere u qwestion da zee-roh? da’ gulag foh’ yu!!! schwein-hund!
“He was born in Hawaii.”
Prove it.
I really don't care how the world sees it or how the press portrays it. A coup is where the military replace the entire depth and breadth of national government, or assume the power to appoint who will govern and how.
Simply refusing to accept questionable authority is not a coup.
It is sad when manipulating activists play with language.
In a different place with different players, similar action would be labeled "passive resistance," a brave and noble thing.
Isn't that cute?
The two birth announcements in both Honolulu newspapers at the time don’t count I guess?
Apparently this one: Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women & Children, Hawaii.
I don’t know the doctor, I don’t mine either. Do you know yours?
The certificate of birth that is supported by the current Republican Governor of Hawaii.
Haven't you heard? The conspiracy to usurp the Presidency goes back to the day he was born. In 1961, an American teenager Stanley Ann Dunham travels in secret (as there are no records of her ever visiting Kenya) from Hawaii to a third world country specifically to give birth, smuggles her baby back into the States while having newspaper announcements submitted by her mother to cover up the foreign birth.
Makes sense, doesn't it?
In case I ever forget his name, or forget the hospital I was born in, I can just look at my birth certificate to refresh my memory.
The hospital and doctor aren't on Obama’s birth certificate.
What public document did you consult to identify the hospital?
Not much of a “visionary”, are you. The best defense is a good offense. Make him defend his policies and even his “right” to implement them. Attack from all fronts.
The two birth announcements in both Honolulu newspapers at the time dont count I guess?
Nope! Anybody could have put the announcements in the paper.
Did Obama kill Kennedy too?
One thing I haven't heard.
What public document (or documents) generated the two newspaper announcements?
The “Short Form” birth certificate that was released by the Obama campaign in 2007 did not exist in 1961.
No, they don’t count, Patrick. Can you get a passport with newspaper announcements? Hell no!
Are you drinking Democrat kool-aid?
“Did Obama kill Kennedy too?”
What a stupid reply. You sound like a DU Troll!
This issue can grow all it wants. It isn’t going to go anywhere.
Now if you really want to do something to get rid of Obama, here is what you do:
Gather up 11 other people and then you call yourself a “jury”. No, make that a “grand jury”.
Actually, you need a more impressive name...let me think... I know! Call yourselves “The American Grand Jury” and indict Obama for some thing or other.
Then, write up “press releases” and post them on a blog on the internet. Then, put links to them here on FR with a new thread. This will lend “legitimacy” to the “grand jury” indictments.
Never mind what the real judges say when you try to “present the indictment” to their courts.
Oh, and be sure you and all your friends jump all over anyone on FR who dares question the legitimacy of your jury. That is a crucial part, as it will help you win friends and influence people.
Do I have to do all the thinking around here? Why didn’t somebody else come up with this brilliant and productive idea?
No, they don’t count. They were generated automatically (as bureaucracies go) upon submission of paperwork claiming a birth. That paperwork, and its official “long form” consequence, remains concealed/suppressed/forged/shredded/whatever. As far as we know it was submitted by his grandmother claiming an “at-home birth” when he was actually flown to HI mere days after birth in Kenya (as the airlines would not let his mother on board so close to delivery lest he be born in-flight); yes, assorted circumstantial evidence indicates this is a viable theory.
If we could see the “long form”, all questions would go away. McCain faced similar questions, and promptly opened his records for resolution - why not the Obama?
He isn’t Constitutionally eligible to be President. We should ignore the Constitution? Like he does? I don’t think so.
I agree this is not an issue to (much) waste political time on. BUT, the whole idea that BHO has spent a megabuck keeping his BC sealed is weird. NONE of us can do that and proceed to do that and live a normal life, like get a driver’s license, take a cruise, get a passport, etc. So yeah, it’s just too weird and uncalled for on BHO’s part.
But why place the announcement at all if he is just another child flown into the country from elsewhere? Surely you don’t think Obama was planned to be President all along?
I thought he was the Messiah not Moses.
Thank you Chrissy.
So where is his BIRTH CERTIFICATE POSTED?
Huh? ......
Where is it?
The Birthers will go away when he produces it.
Where's the BC?
Tell me, why not just release his BC?
Even if that's true, he's still ineligible. His father was not an American citizen and BHO had dual citizenship. That means he ain't an NBC.
Only in birther fantasyland.
You don’t have a single solitary clue about that which you speak.
Have you been keeping up with this since July ‘08? Like many here?
I don’t think so.
Isn't that a damn conundrum.
The SOB is a LIAR and cannot backup his lineage. It is very clear at this point.
Yes. And as usual, this thread is an Obama troll magnet.
I have been following this silly stuff. Just like I follow the Sarah Palin worship, Ron Paul foolishness and Duncan Hunter for President joke-a-thon.
The point remains. There is simply no evidence or statements that contradict that Obama was born in Hawaii. There is a document released by the state of Hawaii, confirmed by the Republican Governor of the state plus a hospital that Obama says and the White House says he was born in that has not been contradicted by that hospital. Plus birth announcements in the local newspapers at the time.
I really don’t see why we have to continue with this stupidity when there are so many other issues that we can fight this guy on.
Try reading some of the certifigate threads before opening your piehole. He’s not a natural born citizen regardless of where he was born as required under the United States Constitution. [He’s a SELF-ADMITTED dual born citizen]
The fact is we don’t know where he was born, if he was born out of country say Canada or Kenya, he may not even be a U.S. citizen.
Either way you look at it, he’s a USURPER. This is the BIGGEST STORY IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
Patrick1, if it is as you say, then why all the big fuss over nothing. Why is the gov. of Hawaii ordered to place the so called birth certificate inside a vault where no one can see it, and who ordered the gov. to take these steps when it would be so easy to show the world the truth ? Instead George Soros or someone is paying out millions to keep this thing hidden from the public. Why? Obama’s first act in office as president was to seal all his past records from everyone. Do you not think that is a bit strange for a sitting president of the United States and wonder why he gave this order to prevent anyone from finding out the truth of the matter when it would be so simple to do otherwise? THIS MATTER WILL NEVER DIE Patrick1 because America does not know who this man is!
Not all of the posters here are pro-obumma, but anti-certificate wannabes. I know not their cause, other than scared of being put into a certifigate hole. Let them be, as they will be the first to drop your back.
I enlisted when I was old enough. If it were now and zero was cic, I would protes day and night till he proved. Whats the big deal.
Those guys had better be left alone by the brass too.
They have every right to follow the law of the land. The military is a profesion but issues such as these divide the mind and reduce focus on the mission getting people killed.
I seldom address them. Every point they bring up has been repeatedly refuted. And they persist. I’ve been on and off these threads since before the election. Some of the dumb statements are amazing.
Yeah, but please don't get carried away with the troll issue.
It may be that they are more correct than you, once the truth is known. Obama is lying and hiding something, the question is what and why?
Besides, without someone to debate (or edumakate), what you gonna you do with your nights now, Mr. DJ?
(obscure reference to a science fiction book. Guess the name)
Repeatedly refuted by whom?
I ask for one thing and I do not hang out on these threads as well. If that SOB will not show his birthright, the ones that defend that action are dishonest in themselves. (we all answer to the same)
Don’t know the book. And that’s Mrs DJ. :-)
A lot of them like Nancydrew have dogs in the fight. They have children, wives, relatives who are not ‘natural born citizens’.
These idiots think that running for President or Vice-President of the United States is a right, which it most certainly is not. The natural born citizen requirement was put in the Constitution for national security reasons. Yet he ‘hounds’ these eligibility threads trying to convince people that the Constitutional REQUIREMENTS are not really fair or they don’t mean what they say.
It’s hard to tell the DU Trolls from the emotionally crippled ‘freepers’ with too much skin in the game.
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