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US Military Forces Refusing Orders from Barack Obama and Taking it to Court (Video)
2setufree / YouTube ^ | December 25, | 2setufree

Posted on 12/26/2009 8:02:56 PM PST by USALiberty

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151 posted on 12/27/2009 9:47:44 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Drew68; Patrick1; tired_old_conservative
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Why are 0bama’s Noelani Kindergarten records oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education?

This is an important feature because K-records for original school entry would have contained the following:

1. His REAL Birth Certificate.

2. An application with the following:

—1. His Legal name.
—2. Parents or Legal Guardians’ names.
—3. Date of Birth
—4. Place of Birth
—5. Immunization Records
(revealing a timeline to the place and DOB.)

It also is important for two reasons:

A. The Dept. of Education does not “lose” the records of one particular student. (Who paid whom what sum to make this record disappear?)

B. There would have been NO shameful low-test scores, NO embarrassing Equal Opportunity advancements, and NO trails of fraudulent funding to hide which could possibly ‘excuse’ the quashing of public school Kindergarten entry records.

For the rest of his life he attended very expensive private schools and has had his records legally sealed to deny the public, his true life story.

This is different. Hawaii should be able to verify he attended their school since he is featured in class photographs. State and federal tax dollars paid for his initial year of education. Why is there no documentation?

This is the ‘tip of the iceberg’ of an intentionally erased life of a fraudulent conman and it reeks of complicity by officials within the State of Hawaii’s Dept. of Health & Dept. of Education.
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152 posted on 12/27/2009 9:51:49 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Man50D

What he means is that getting rid of Obama is not going to get rid of the rest of the Socialists.

We need to concentrate at the grassroots level and concentrate on winning both houses of congress back. The house in 2010 and the Senate in 2012.

Just beating Obama is not going to do us much good.


153 posted on 12/27/2009 9:54:36 PM PST by Diggity
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To: LucyT

Thanks for the ping!


154 posted on 12/27/2009 10:02:31 PM PST by thecodont
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To: LucyT

4. Place of Birth
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Kenya ?...


155 posted on 12/27/2009 10:12:47 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: LucyT

Add to your list....

Barry Soetoro’s legal name change to Barack Hussein Obama.

The B/C passed off on the net as Barry’s can not be his legal B/C. At age six he was adopted, his legal b/c would not have Obama Sr. listed as the father, Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo would be.

Barry could go into court an legally change his name; he could not go into any court and have his adoption “reversed”. Legally, Soetoro is his father.

Where’s the B/C Dear Leader?


156 posted on 12/27/2009 11:31:52 PM PST by Brytani (Support Allen West For Congress - www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: LucyT

Add to your list....

Barry Soetoro’s legal name change to Barack Hussein Obama.

The B/C passed off on the net as Barry’s can not be his legal B/C. At age six he was adopted, his legal b/c would not have Obama Sr. listed as the father, Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo would be.

Barry could go into court an legally change his name; he could not go into any court and have his adoption “reversed”. Legally, Soetoro is his father.

Where’s the B/C Dear Leader?


157 posted on 12/27/2009 11:33:23 PM PST by Brytani (Support Allen West For Congress - www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: Patrick1

Even if he WAS born in Hawaii, which is very doubtful, he still is a British/E.U. citizen making him a dual citizen, and for good measure possible a triple citizen adding Indonesia as his home country!!!


158 posted on 12/27/2009 11:44:32 PM PST by danamco
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To: USALiberty

The generals are in the Soetoro’s pockets, otherwise they would NOT be generals. So the once who still have sworn to defend and uphold the Constitution have to come from lower ranks, and it’s their rights to do so!!!


159 posted on 12/27/2009 11:48:26 PM PST by danamco
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To: Patrick1

Did those announcements prevent him from dual of triple citizenship???


160 posted on 12/27/2009 11:50:24 PM PST by danamco
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To: Drew68
Makes sense, doesn't it?

Makes very much sense!!!

BTW can your spouse run for the office of the U.S. President???

161 posted on 12/27/2009 11:54:24 PM PST by danamco
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To: Patrick1

Which of the Kennedys???


162 posted on 12/27/2009 11:56:26 PM PST by danamco
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To: Patrick1

Have you heard that Lt. Quarles Harris Jr. was shot Chicago style not long ago???


163 posted on 12/28/2009 12:10:02 AM PST by danamco
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To: Nik Naym
Oh, and be sure you and all your friends jump all over anyone on FR who dares question the legitimacy of your jury.

We don't question the legitimacy of your jury!

We do question the legitimacy of an illegal alien and usurper in the W.H.!!

And so do apparently also military personnel in Iraq as well. And it seems to start getting some traction of the few on Capitol Hill!!!

Don't you think that is a legitimacy question that we have the right to ask???

164 posted on 12/28/2009 12:21:20 AM PST by danamco
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To: SledgeCS

Show ALL the records!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ6iLuyCAx0


165 posted on 12/28/2009 12:23:53 AM PST by danamco
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To: tired_old_conservative; DJ MacWoW

Hey old_fart_faked_conservative, you are still on the 24/7 duty of spamming for your pal, the illegal alien and usurper???


166 posted on 12/28/2009 12:28:42 AM PST by danamco
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To: Electric Graffiti

A handful of them are professional distractors, like those IT posters the PUMA.com gals exposed from the usurper’s camp!!!


167 posted on 12/28/2009 12:40:05 AM PST by danamco
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To: USALiberty
This is from all the way back to Feb. 2009!!!

Is Scott Easterling still in Iraq now???

168 posted on 12/28/2009 12:44:03 AM PST by danamco
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To: Patrick1; BnBlFlag
"The two birth announcements in both Honolulu newspapers at the time don’t count I guess?"

Wow. Um, let's see...

1. Why aren't the Nordyke twins in those same newspaper announcements?
2. The LONG FORM for the twins is public, showing hospital of birth and the delivering Dr., birth height/weight, etc. Where IS Barry's?
3. His father was a foreign national, who passed his foreign citizenship to his son.
4. Even assuming Barry was born in HI (not proven yet, only alledged), he was BORN A DUAL NATIONAL. He was a CITIZEN of TWO COUNTRY'S, simultaneously. Does the term "divided loyalties" mean anything?

There is no chance the framers intended (post grandfather clause) someone born a citizen of two differnet countries to be considered a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S. and thus eligible to be the Commander in Chief of the Armed forces....with very good reason.

Barry is a usurper. Everything he does, everything he sign's and all orders he gives to the military are as a usurper to the Constitution.

169 posted on 12/28/2009 12:51:53 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: tired_old_conservative

But here is what one of your pals is telling!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ6iLuyCAx0


170 posted on 12/28/2009 12:53:21 AM PST by danamco
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To: danamco
There is a big difference in how records should be released. After all, McLame was running as a Republican. ;0)
171 posted on 12/28/2009 4:19:10 AM PST by seemoAR (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, dazzle them with bull.)
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To: tired_old_conservative; castlegreyskull; BP2
He met the rules that exist for certification to the satisfaction of everyone who put him on the ballot and accepted his election, including Dick Cheney. Typically "AFTER-BIRTHERS" Cloward-Piven tactics at play here!

BP2 has shown you over and over very clearly that he did NOT met the rules to be on the ballot!!

As the planted IT moles you are ask Drew68 if his/her spouse can run for the office of the U.S. President!!!

How can you sleep at night, which you don't do by your 24/7 stand-by and hundreds of posts to distract us on the issue of your pal's removal from office???

172 posted on 12/28/2009 7:30:26 AM PST by danamco
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To: Patrick1

He was not born in Hawaii and it is not going away. Please go and troll somewhere else.


173 posted on 12/28/2009 7:34:14 AM PST by stockpirate (Dec. 24, 2009, the day liberty in America died to applause in the US Senate)
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To: LucyT; null and void

PING


174 posted on 12/28/2009 7:37:00 AM PST by stockpirate (Dec. 24, 2009, the day liberty in America died to applause in the US Senate)
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To: Patrick1

YOu are correct, two phony announcements in a paper do not count. We need to see his long form BC, and his passport.


175 posted on 12/28/2009 7:40:47 AM PST by stockpirate (Dec. 24, 2009, the day liberty in America died to applause in the US Senate)
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To: Patrick1

olddeckhand is that you?


176 posted on 12/28/2009 7:42:29 AM PST by stockpirate (Dec. 24, 2009, the day liberty in America died to applause in the US Senate)
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To: tired_old_conservative

Oh wow a newbie anti-birther trool claiming to be a conservative. Have you heard that over 40% have concerns about the birth issue?


177 posted on 12/28/2009 7:44:31 AM PST by stockpirate (Dec. 24, 2009, the day liberty in America died to applause in the US Senate)
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To: Drew68; seemoAR
Obama's leftist ideology and associates were well-known on election day.

Known by who, the 69 million = typically "AFTER-BIRTHERS" misleading figures, it was less then 67 million!

Conspiracy - NOOO - but reality that our beloved country is being sent by design, and Chicago style, down to the commie rat hole @ lightening speed by an impostor @ the W.H. by your approval!!

How can you ever sleep at night, when your pal's brown-shirts are lurking at the door step and taking you to prison if you don't by a Health (sick) Insurance!!!

Can your spouse run for the office of the U.S. President???

178 posted on 12/28/2009 7:46:01 AM PST by danamco
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To: Patrick1

“Did Obama kill Kennedy too?”

Divert attention from the main arguement, nice try.


179 posted on 12/28/2009 7:47:48 AM PST by stockpirate (Dec. 24, 2009, the day liberty in America died to applause in the US Senate)
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To: Drew68

WOW this thread is loaded with anti-birther trolls today.


180 posted on 12/28/2009 7:51:08 AM PST by stockpirate (Dec. 24, 2009, the day liberty in America died to applause in the US Senate)
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To: Uncle Chip
This old fart has been here less than three (3) months and on IT stand-by 24/7 to post distraction on ALL Soetoro's issues of sealed records, you may call it at planted IT mole!

In that short time he has made more the 200 posts against this issue ONLY!!

He has NOT posted anything Conservative constructive on any other issues, therefore he is definitely an organized infiltrated plant from outside. 'Nuf said!!!

181 posted on 12/28/2009 7:56:05 AM PST by danamco
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To: Drew68; Uncle Chip
When you can't win on logic and merit, go after someone's sign-on date.

Winning on logic, what's that all about, winning, hello!!!

See post 181 then YOU will understand about the ringing???

182 posted on 12/28/2009 8:04:19 AM PST by danamco
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To: stockpirate

One way to tell if you are over the target is the amount of flak thrown at you. We must be doing a fine job. ;0)


183 posted on 12/28/2009 8:06:51 AM PST by seemoAR (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, dazzle them with bull.)
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To: seemoAR

How right you are and more and more newbie trolls are showing up here and the older trolls are no longer posting, so they have changed screen names. Sad they think we can’t figure it out.


184 posted on 12/28/2009 8:09:55 AM PST by stockpirate (Dec. 24, 2009, the day liberty in America died to applause in the US Senate)
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To: ecinkc

Congratulation. The best post so far on this thread, KUDOS, and hallelujah!!!


185 posted on 12/28/2009 8:13:38 AM PST by danamco
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To: stockpirate
It is fun when they get their panties all bunched up and throw a hissy fit :0)
186 posted on 12/28/2009 8:17:36 AM PST by seemoAR (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, dazzle them with bull.)
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To: Felis_irritable
I haven't read all the replies and I'm not going to. Your opinion on the validity of 0's citizenship (or mine or anyone else's) is irrelevant.

In your wording our Constitution is also irrelevant!!!

How is it making out for you when his brow-shirts knocking on your door, if you don't buy a Health Insurance and can be hauled out to jail. Is that irrelevant tooooo???

187 posted on 12/28/2009 8:24:13 AM PST by danamco
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To: danamco

Presidential
Candidate Vice Presidential
Candidate Political
Party Popular Vote Electoral Vote
Barack H. Obama Joseph R. Biden, Jr. Democratic 69,499,428 52.87% 365 67.8%
John S. McCain, III Sarah H. Palin Republican 59,950,323 45.60% 173 32.2%
Ralph Nader Matt Gonzalez Independent 739,278 0.56% 0 0.0%
Bob Barr Wayne Allyn Root Libertarian 523,433 0.40% 0 0.0%


188 posted on 12/28/2009 8:36:01 AM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: tired_old_conservative; ecinkc
Both John McCain and Hillary Clinton had very real incentive to demonstrate Obama was not born in the US if there was any truth to it. Neither went there.

As a planted mole and an "AFTER-BIRTHER" you are very lax with the truth still using the misleading Cloward-Piven tactics!

Hillary and Bill were the first official "BIRTHERS"!!

Bill was asked the question and he answered: "Yes, if he is qualified"!!

Soon after that he said he was hit with the "RACE-CARD," and they both became mum on THAT issue, end of story!!!

189 posted on 12/28/2009 8:40:16 AM PST by danamco
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To: MilspecRob

I took the figures from your favor news channel CNN, so they must be lying again???

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/


190 posted on 12/28/2009 8:58:46 AM PST by danamco
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To: danamco; ecinkc
I would disagree, though, with this statement:

"I will agree that there is no simple, easy, readily available consensus that as a Dual-born, Obama is not NBC."

There is plenty of evidence that the framers intent was to remove foreign influence and divided loyalties from the position of the Commander in Chief. See Jay's writings (pre - with letter to Washington and post - Federalist Papers) for a few examples.

Someone born with, or having at the time of office holding, dual citizenship means that person is beholden to another country's laws. There is a very good reason why the framers choose to prohibit (with the NBC clause) someone with dual, or divided loyalties from being President and CinC of the military.

191 posted on 12/28/2009 2:03:20 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: danamco

Thanks for the clarification. I can’t believe there are folks out there that believe we shouldn’t violate the President’s privacy. My idea is then, fine! Then get out of the White House, and lets fine someone that shows us he can abide by the Constitution.


192 posted on 12/28/2009 2:44:45 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: tired_old_conservative
“Do you think Hawaii Dept of Health would describe themselves as legally obligated to step in and say, “No, that image on the web does not accurately reflect the records we have on file?”

Yes. I do. It's really that simple.

Then please cite the law or regulation which so obligates them.

193 posted on 12/28/2009 4:18:07 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: tired_old_conservative
“In this context, Hawaii representatives specifically said they have verified they have the original records. The only reasonable interpretation of that is that said records say he was born in Hawaii. At that point, it doesn't even matter if his grandmother filed it. It's done.”

If his grandmother filed it “It's done”???

If his grandmother filed it with no hospital or doctor corroboration, he could have been born anywhere. HI was very lax in requiring evidence of actual HI birth even as much as a year or more after an alleged birth.

A grandmother report is exactly the type of HI vital record that opens the serious possibility of a Kenya birth, while a hospital long form with a doctor's signature would shut down that possibility in my mind.

Remember the incessant lefty insult hurled at Bush that he was “incurious”? In my view, folks satisfied with Obama’s failure to release his HI vital records are incurious.

194 posted on 12/28/2009 4:50:00 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Smokin' Joe
No offense, but on your planet do states let people present falsified birth documents on a national platform with impunity when the state has no record of the person actually being born there? On mine, they don't. Hawaii's response to date makes it obvious they have documentation in their records stating that Obama was born in Hawaii.

From the Honolulu Advertiser:

[[The Obama campaign said it has posted a copy of his birth certificate at www.fightthesmears.com in response to Internet chatter that the Illinois senator is not a natural-born citizen. But the posting has done little to curb the nearly weekly requests to the Health Department for copies of the original, Okubo said.

Some skeptics point to the lack of an official state seal on the birth certificate posted on the Obama campaign Web site.

But seals often are placed on the back of the birth certificate, Okubo said, “and whether it shows through depends on how much force was put into it.”

Others wonder why a large black rectangle appears next to the words, “CERTIFICATE NO.”

“The thing that's redacted is just our file number,” she said. “Potentially, if you have that number, you could break into the system.”

Health officials contacted the Obama campaign a few months ago in response to the persistent inquiries “to see if they could try and resolve the issue with the people who were asking questions,” she said.

“They responded and apparently it isn't good enough that he posted his birth certificate,” Okubo said. “They say they want it because they claim he is not a citizen of the United States. It's pretty ridiculous.”]]

It's really not ambiguous. All credible information indicates that Obama really was born in Hawaii. Okubo and company really are just hapless bureaucrats being hassled by a delusional fringe element. If it bothers people so much, they should try and get laws passed in their state as to what constitutes proper certification for the ballot, not pursue court cases that are deranged and incompetent. I'm sorry, but that's what they are.

195 posted on 12/29/2009 1:54:02 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: Seizethecarp
It doesn't matter what the source of the information is.

Whatever his birth certificate says was recorded and filed over forty years ago. It is the legal, factual record of his birth. Finding out his grandmother filed it, which we have no reason to believe is the case, all hyperventilating aside, doesn't change that. It would get the birthers all excited again, but they still have no meaningful factual evidence to dispute the legal records of the state in question. Even assuming you could get this before a court, which I don't think you can, the court would be left with the official record of the state in question versus some people with a bunch of suspicions forty years after the fact. In our legal system, that's no contest.

196 posted on 12/29/2009 2:00:19 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: tired_old_conservative; LucyT
"It doesn't matter what the source of the information is. Whatever his birth certificate says was recorded and filed over forty years ago. It is the legal, factual record of his birth. Finding out his grandmother filed it, which we have no reason to believe is the case, all hyperventilating aside, doesn't change that."

I disagree. Obama’s refusal to release his original vital records screams out that he also believes it matters and is hiding something.

If what Obama is hiding is a report by grandma of a home birth, I believe that financial and investigative resources would be made available to intensify efforts to validate the Kenya BCs by folks who would be emboldened by the opening such a report would allow for a foreign birth.

All it would take is blood in the water. D’Onofrio’s quo warranto placing the burden of proof on Obama might just provide that blood.

The self-authenticating presumption of authenticity that the HI vital records and the COLB are entitled to under the FRE is not absolute, but can be challenged if credible authentication of a Kenya birth can be found.

Kenya is corrupt, but lots of folks have been protecting Obama, and as his popularity and power continue to fade, so will his protection. Individuals in Kenya or the US may yet come forward with testimony and documents that can be authenticated. You and I just don't know what would come out if a report of a home birth by grandma was revealed.

197 posted on 12/29/2009 2:37:05 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Brytani
“At age six he was adopted, his legal b/c would not have Obama Sr. listed as the father, Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo would be.”

Link please!

Elementary school registration book from Indonesia doesn't count for me. It has no legal standing and could have been a convenient misrepresentation by Obama’s parents.

198 posted on 12/30/2009 10:57:33 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Brytani; Seizethecarp; malkee; STE=Q; rocco55; thouworm; rxsid; GOPJ; Fred Nerks; null and void; ...
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Yesterday, I posted a link to #157 that was broken, or didn't work for everyone; sorry 'bout that. Since it is an important comment, here is a second try.

Check out #157.

199 posted on 12/30/2009 1:14:54 PM PST by LucyT
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200 posted on 12/30/2009 1:20:15 PM PST by LucyT
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