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To: patlin

If you are born of two American citizens, you are natural born.It doesn’t matter where the birth takes place; having tow US citizens for parents is what does matter.

In Obama’s case, only one parent is a US citizen. Therefore he is not natural born.

Since there is a divorce decree for the Obamas, one has to assume a marriage took place, even if the documentation is not yet found.

If the Obamas were married,their son is still not natural born.

If they were not legally married, he is still not natural born.

If Barry is illegitmate, i.e. no marriage took place, or it was bigamous, Barry is still the product of only one US citizen, not two.

It seems like Barry is not a natural born citizen under any of the scenarios presented, as he does not meet the definition of two US citizens. Even if the British Act of 1948 does not convey British citizenship to him if was born as an illegimate, that still does not change the fact that his father was NOT an American citizen.

So he does not meet the definition of natural born in the law.


38 posted on 12/27/2009 8:39:02 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: exit82
“In Obama’s case, only one parent is a US citizen. Therefore he is not natural born.”

The last word from SCOTUS in the Minor case is that “there is doubt” of NBC status if a parent is foreign, but the court declined to rule definitively at that time. So SCOTUS has not yet ruled in an “on point case” that Obama is not a natural born citizen.

I personally believe that if the court had ruled at the time, they would have resolved the doubt against children of foreign fathers being NBC, but that didn't happen, as far as I can tell. I think Obama, the golfer, is counting on a Mulligan in his favor if the current dispute makes to SCOTUS, given the lack of a prior clear ruling and with him being a sitting president already.

Of course if he could be proved to have been born in Kenya, he would be toast!

40 posted on 12/27/2009 8:48:55 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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. . . . Check out #38.

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42 posted on 12/27/2009 10:49:40 PM PST by LucyT
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To: exit82

Study of the citizenship laws are not all that hard to comprehend if you do not put your search into too small of a circle.

If Barry had been born illegite and his father had never come forward and made any claim to him, then according to US law at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, when a woman’s citizenship followed that of her father until she married, Barry would have been a considered a natural born because he would have held no allegiance to any other country than the US.

British common law followed the same practice regarding illegitimate children.

Under citizenship laws, there was never allowance for dual citizenship for national security & sovereignty reasons and it still remains the same today.

Dual citizenship is accepted, but it has never been made law.


50 posted on 12/28/2009 7:39:54 AM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: exit82
So he does not meet the definition of natural born in the law.

And in what law would we find this definition?

57 posted on 12/28/2009 8:59:27 AM PST by Drew68
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