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2010 Will Be Worse
American Thinker ^ | January 1, 2010 | Monty Pelerin

Posted on 12/31/2009 11:37:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You ain't seen nothing yet! ! ! ! !

Wait till 2011.

21 posted on 01/01/2010 2:49:39 AM PST by DeaconRed (2010-More Change we don't want or need: 01-20-2013 can't get her fast enough. . . .)
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To: dajeeps

At this point I’m not sure what a Republican victory would bring. The GOP is still in an internal battle for control between the conservative core base and the “big tent” establishment (McCain, Steele, Graham). If the GOP wins the House in 2010 and is controlled by the big tent wing, it will fail by attempting to govern through compromise.

Governing through compromise is the road to disaster. It means the Republicans will acquiesce to the President’s agenda and therefore be blamed for its failure. Better for the Democrats to win and be accountable than for the Republicans to be willing partners in the failure.

There might be a chance if the limited government conservatives wrest power in the GOP from the big tent wing. Even if the Dems retain power in the Senate in 2010, a scrappy and vocal limited government conservative GOP house majority can apply a brake on the President’s policies. The Constitution gives the power of to raise revenue to the House as well as the power of impeachment.


22 posted on 01/01/2010 4:25:12 AM PST by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: CitizenUSA
When the madness became obvious in the early 60s, most people thought it would not last and therefore, did not confront what originated in academia..The drug use, the rewriting of history, irresponsible sexual behavior, etc., etc., etc. So, it just rolled on and on, through administration after administration until those lusting to get rid of our Judeo-Christian values have just about declared victory. Now, the looting of the taxpayer for the purposes of financing the redistribution necessary to bring about a different form of government (socialism or communism) is going full steam ahead, regardless of how many are against such actions. The boldness of the D.C. politicians is breathtaking..I ask myself, “Are they all on drugs?” Do they not care that their children will not escape the Armageddon they are bringing down upon us? Then I realize that this is the abortion-loving crew..They do not care about children.My hope is that God will act in some way no human has thought of to restore sanity and rationality to this nation. My fear is that God is fed up with a people so incredibly blessed by Him who responded with an elected government whose legislation is filled with nothing but greed, avarice and hypocrisy. Good people will pay a painful price for all that and perhaps it is what will bring some to their senses enough to fight all this evil. The only thing we can do is what we have been doing all along which is to live out those values you describe in your post and not to despair.
23 posted on 01/01/2010 5:03:27 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The possibility of losing our form of government is a real risk under any of the alternatives.

Why do you think the Democrat-Marxists passed expensive Healthcare legislation?...to help usher in the new Government by collapsing the old system. Bye, bye USA, nice to have known you. Welcome USSA, Obama and Marxists take over with new ruling elite! Communist Manifesto and Fascism trumps former U.S. Constitution, and you guys thought there would be an election in 2010!

24 posted on 01/01/2010 5:13:46 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obamao is a carbon copy of FDR. He is doing ALL the very worst things that will create a secondary economic crash that will launch us into a severe depression.

Keynesian economics NEVER works, nor has it EVER worked. Pouring massive amounts of public supported funds into more public works, designed to make government much bigger, government hiring laid off private sector workers, to create an even larger taxpayer funded liability, is in itself a guaranteed failure.

The only alternative is for government to take over private industry and force everyone to work for the government. Most all of America is now working in an 85% service based economy, in contrast to the World War 2 era, over 85% of the population worked in a production based economy and the average debt/asset ratio then, was only a small fraction of what it is today.

In addition to that, in the ‘30’s most people lived in rural areas, could grow and produce their own food and there was not a massive credit based society to deal with.

This coming new depression will set all the records.

25 posted on 01/01/2010 5:27:09 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: GeronL

There are few indicators of how well we are doing as a country better than the health of our trucking companies and the fleet of owner/operators. When times are good you see rest areas and truck stops full, no room for another truck. Travel right now and there’s lots of room for trucks on break.

If I had to choose a single indicator as to the health of our economy it would be the trucking industry. I can’t think of another thing that so closely follows the ups and downs of how well Americans are doing from day to day, month to month.


26 posted on 01/01/2010 6:19:42 AM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I am weary of stuff like this, I truly believe that a total collapse of the dollar is possible, am I wrong? So many people I speak to about stuff like this say that it is a total fantasy, the dollar will always remain. I wonder what a total collapse of the dollar bring about collapse of the government? Would the cities turn into zoos? Is all this dollar collapse stuff just hype? or what do you see as really happening? What do you believe strong enough to take all you stored wealth and do? Move to Mexico? or some other place. Many have said buy guns and ammo, but if an army of hungry people come at you what are you going to do? Are we talking about “MAD MAX” or a system reset with a new currency, and people just go about their lives like we do today? What do thinking Freepers think?
27 posted on 01/01/2010 6:24:39 AM PST by 2001convSVT ("Only Property Owners that pay taxes should have the right to Vote")
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To: CitizenUSA
You have echoed my sediments exactly too. Ticks me off that I have worked so hard to avoid debt, only to have it siphoned off by a hyperinflationary event caused by everyone elses' financial irresponsibility.

I am preparing, for the worst, and will not heistate to blow away any intruder trying to get tap into my supplies.

I have plenty of land to bury the bodies.

28 posted on 01/01/2010 6:50:13 AM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: eyedigress
The US Government does not care about debt.?????????

Our elected officials don't care about debt, just their ROYAL retirement and benefit package

29 posted on 01/01/2010 6:55:07 AM PST by litehaus (A memory tooooo longt A)
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To: catfish1957
“I have plenty of land to bury the bodies.”

To paraphrase one of my favorite freepers: “Shoot; shovel; and shut up.” :-)

30 posted on 01/01/2010 6:58:47 AM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: exnavy
"hope and change"

Is Breeding-

Dopes in Chains

31 posted on 01/01/2010 6:59:44 AM PST by litehaus (A memory tooooo longt A)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The possibility of losing our form of government is a real risk under any of the alternatives. So is civil unrest and strife.

Can someone prove to me that's not part of the plan? Soros & Obama; the Clower & Piven Strategy....

32 posted on 01/01/2010 8:16:42 AM PST by ChrisInAR (You gotta let it out, Captain!)
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To: napscoordinator
Maybe, but November will be sweet!

Maybe so, but we've got a long way to go 'til we get there! It will be a very difficult 10 months until then.

33 posted on 01/01/2010 8:19:59 AM PST by ChrisInAR (You gotta let it out, Captain!)
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To: exnavy
Welcome to the world of "hope and change"
How's it werkin' fer U????

Mostly, it's creeping me out.

34 posted on 01/01/2010 9:41:41 AM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: CitizenUSA

yep, our society punishes responsible people and rewards the irresponsible. That’s the basic jist of their “stimulus”: “don’t pay your debts off, take your money and gamble it at the giant wall street casino. Oh, you wanted to invest conservatively in money markets and CDs? no no no, sorry, we’re gonna eff that up for you too by creating so much money that a money market won’t even pay interest anymore so now you don’t really have a choice but to gamble irresponsibly with the rest of America. happy speculating prole”.


35 posted on 01/01/2010 9:51:39 AM PST by RC one
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To: litehaus

That’s got a very nice ring to it!


36 posted on 01/01/2010 12:51:30 PM PST by exnavy (God save the republic)
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To: GeronL

“I don’t think I want the fascists in charge when it collapses. Remember FDR?”

Without a doubt when this thing comes down it will make the last two years look like some of our better days. The point in my musing, exploration of the possibilities is all, is that Democrap leadership now is predicated upon their promise of a “new direction” in the face of what they convinced everyone was Republican failure to the point of the financial system collapse. They are expected to make things better not worse, although many economists are saying that it is a near impossibility even if they had the right strategy, which they don’t. FDR gained power much the same way because Republicans were in power when the dodo hit the fan.

I was just imagining the real and tangible gains conservatism could make if the political situation of the Great Depression and the Great Recession were reversed especially when over 2/3 of the debt problems have to do with entitlements, things of the New Deal, the Great Society, and all the rest of the socialist garb. I can just hear modern Liberalism being eulogized for decades and deservedly so.


37 posted on 01/01/2010 12:54:17 PM PST by dajeeps
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To: CitizenUSA

Put what money you have into tangible assets (food, precious metals, etc). This will give you a better chance at surviving the coming collapse better than those who put all their faith in green wrapping paper.


38 posted on 01/01/2010 7:56:53 PM PST by RWB Patriot ("Need has never produced anything. It has only been an excuse to steal from those with ablity.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

39 posted on 01/01/2010 8:00:01 PM PST by blam
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; The Duke
"...the government is in a quandary of its own making from which there is no escape."

"The possibility of losing our form of government is a real risk under any of the alternatives. So is civil unrest and strife."

Some say there is no bloodless way back from here.

40 posted on 01/01/2010 8:14:39 PM PST by blam
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