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Grave concern about Democrats retiring or dropping out of election races
self | 1/6/10 | NewJerseyJoe

Posted on 01/06/2010 5:47:38 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe

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1 posted on 01/06/2010 5:47:40 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe
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2 posted on 01/06/2010 5:48:22 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe
The Democrats are simply rearranging the deck chairs with fresh faces.
3 posted on 01/06/2010 5:50:35 AM PST by poobear
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To: Alberta's Child; algernonpj; alice_in_bubbaland; Ballygrl; Calpernia; certrtwngnut; Clemenza; ...

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4 posted on 01/06/2010 5:51:43 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe

With Dodd off the ballot that seat goes from Leans Republican to Likely Democrat retention.

With Ritter off the ballot that governorship goes from Likely Republican Pickup to Toss Up or slight lean Republican.

The Dems improved their chances on those two by retiring unpopular incumbents.


5 posted on 01/06/2010 5:52:11 AM PST by NeoCaveman (you betcha)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
I agree it's a real possibility. They'll rig it for the new people where possible. I don't think anyone would believe it if Dodd won again so they wouldn't be able to pull off the steal. Bring a new guy in and they'll make it work.
6 posted on 01/06/2010 5:53:29 AM PST by jennyjenny
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To: NewJerseyJoe

with Dodd yes he was damaged and any other Dem in CT will probably (but not definitely) keep the seat. however in CO gov, MI gov and ND Senate this only solidifies GOP opportunities.


7 posted on 01/06/2010 5:54:28 AM PST by DM1
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Yep, now they can vote with impunity to screw America, in return for a nice cushy no show up job in the politburo ... Maybe even a newly minted spokesman for the global warming liars, say $250,000 a year.

By now most are figuring out corruption is the only product of the federal government.


8 posted on 01/06/2010 5:55:28 AM PST by Tarpon ( ...)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Probably true, but the stink they have left on the party label will still endure in to the 2010 elections even with
new candidates.


9 posted on 01/06/2010 5:56:23 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: NewJerseyJoe

The census and Universal Voter Registration will leave the Congressional Rats in good shape in 2012.


10 posted on 01/06/2010 6:00:38 AM PST by Roccus (ABLE DANGER?????...................What's an ABLE DANGER???)
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To: Man50D

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11 posted on 01/06/2010 6:01:19 AM PST by Roccus (ABLE DANGER?????...................What's an ABLE DANGER???)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

The Dems are trying to take controversial votes in Washington off the table during the campaign. The replacement Dem can claim “I had nothing to do with that!”....

hh


12 posted on 01/06/2010 6:03:47 AM PST by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
I'd say you're exactly right. Although I'm still glad Dodd will have his fatass outta there. He should be in jail.
13 posted on 01/06/2010 6:04:36 AM PST by workerbee (My cat would be a better president than the Resident!)
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To: DM1

Blumenthal(D) to announce that he will run for Dodd’s seat.


14 posted on 01/06/2010 6:07:24 AM PST by SueRae
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To: NewJerseyJoe
This is the political shrewdness I have come to expect from Democrats. Think 'Frank Lautenberg' here. Torticelli was facing a NJ Senate election he would lose. So rather than lose the seat, the DNC forced Torticelli to withdraw so that they could put forth a candidate who could win.

It is the same here with Dodd. Rather than have Dodd lose the next election, they will replace him with an empty-suit Democrat who they think can win. This is all about power.

15 posted on 01/06/2010 6:10:43 AM PST by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Of course this happening...you can bet there will be provisions providing future immunity for these crooks as well.

The final raping and pillaging of our country before socialism fully sets in.


16 posted on 01/06/2010 6:15:25 AM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

My first reaction is that they are leaving to enjoy the “stash” from the stimulus and other payoffs, and enter a super luxurious lifestyle with the taxpayers cash. My second reaction is that they are leaving now before they get caught!


17 posted on 01/06/2010 6:16:18 AM PST by biggredd1
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To: NewJerseyJoe

There is no such thing as a moderate democrat, so we must assume that they will run these types in the these vacated spots.

But you know something? I don’t care. Getting Chris POS Dodd out of there is a plus under any circumstance. Same with Harry Reid and Pelosi.

WE must run conservative candidates on a national platform.


18 posted on 01/06/2010 6:16:33 AM PST by nikos1121 (Praying for minus 24 today....at least minus 23...)
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To: All
The Myth of "Conservative Leaning Democrats" has been





"The "Blue Dog" label is simply a ploy to get democrats elected. It is nothing more than slick marketing." ~ Kari
19 posted on 01/06/2010 6:17:32 AM PST by j_k_l
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To: NewJerseyJoe

A lot of posting on blogs lately have people screeching “Don’t vote for ANY incumbants.” So...if the Demoncraps load up a lot of races with “new faces” and the Sheeple stick with not voting for any incumbants, this could work well for the Demoncraps.

People need to learn how to THINK logically and rationally and for themselves where voting is concerned but I don’t see that happening in just 9 short months.


20 posted on 01/06/2010 6:19:03 AM PST by An American In Dairyland (Green is the new RED)
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To: j_k_l
A Blue Dog Democrat is one that will bark a couple of times before rolling over to get its tummy scratched.

Most other Democrats just grab your leg and hump it.

21 posted on 01/06/2010 6:20:36 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Gore is the fifth horseman of the apocalypse. He rides an icy horse bringing cold wherever he goes.)
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To: An American In Dairyland

I am beginning to wonder if our “vote” even counts...

Years ago, I was coaching football at a small college...The head coach gave me slips of paper to pass out to the team to vote for captain and co-captains...I did so, then after a bit, I collected them in a box...went to the head coaches office and presented him the box...

He turned and dumped it in the trash can and said, “Ok, the captain is “so and so” and the co-captains are....”

I am beginning to wonder if this is how our “votes” are handled....


22 posted on 01/06/2010 6:23:21 AM PST by Boonie
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To: NeoCaveman

The Dems improved their chances on those two by retiring unpopular incumbents.
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A RAT is a RAT. I can’t believe people will be that stupid. But you might be right.

I truly hope people smell a RAT this November and will pull the lever for Conservatives for America..


23 posted on 01/06/2010 6:26:24 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Boonie

BTW...the players never knew any different........


24 posted on 01/06/2010 6:27:36 AM PST by Boonie
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To: SueRae

yeah i heard
Dems will probably keep this seat though it still may be possible for a GOP pickup if the national mood is still as sour on Dems as it is now


25 posted on 01/06/2010 6:29:35 AM PST by DM1
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Do not put anything past the Dims, but hopefully America is waking up to see how absolutely and incorrigibly corrupt this Congress is. And hopefully that will mean a big decrease in the number of Dums in the Senate and the House.

We will REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!

http://pushbackuntil.com - be in D.C. for the SOTU address!


26 posted on 01/06/2010 6:51:33 AM PST by DennisR
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To: Boonie

Yep,it`s the same old story,it`s who counts the votes
is what counts


27 posted on 01/06/2010 6:55:22 AM PST by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: DM1

with Dodd yes he was damaged and any other Dem in CT will probably (but not definitely) keep the seat. however in CO gov, MI gov and ND Senate this only solidifies GOP opportunities.
+++++++++++++++

Mebbe a mixed bag in CT. But if the retirement conveyor belt continues, I think it’s generally good news for Conservatives, as you point out DM1.


28 posted on 01/06/2010 6:59:35 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Harold Shea

Yep,it`s the same old story,it`s who counts the votes
is what counts
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When we get back into power, we need to have comprehensive election reforms. It’s such a basic and important citizen’s right.


29 posted on 01/06/2010 7:00:56 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: SeattleBruce

it bears watching
i truly hope that this opens the floodgates and TONS of Dems begin to bolt leaving the Dems scrambling for candidates


30 posted on 01/06/2010 7:05:08 AM PST by DM1
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To: jennyjenny

There are no more “Blue Dog Democrats” They are all the same color—Red. In less they rigg the next election or pay off the citizens I can’t see them holding on to power. They may know something we don’t know—like the RNC is really a wing of the Democratic Party and they plan to run some awful dudes for congress—people no one would vote for. Like McCain.


31 posted on 01/06/2010 7:14:06 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: DM1
You know, incumbents have a great advantage typically, and while Dodd may be unpopular, how can any RAT distance themselves from bammy’s socialism? Just aint gunna happen easily, imho. That portion of the population that is inclined to defeat, or at least (the squishy middle) reign in our dear leader, will still not vote for the RAT in CT. And if many RAT incumbents leave office, I can't see that as a generally bad result.
32 posted on 01/06/2010 7:17:48 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
There are no more “Blue Dog Democrats” They are all the same color—Red. Unless they rig the next election or pay off the citizens parasites...

There, fixed it.
33 posted on 01/06/2010 7:20:30 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Sure...they will try and do the best for themselves as they always do. BUT...they will not overcome the negatives they are generating. Just my opinion.


34 posted on 01/06/2010 7:30:08 AM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: SeattleBruce

Incumbents do typically have some advantage unless it is an anti-incumbent year (like this one).
there are a few things to keep in mind here though. CT like NJ and MA are knee jerk Blue states. given the chance they will always vote for the Dem unless the particular individual is absolutely heinous and even that sometimes does not stop them (think Barney Frank, Ted Kennedy). CT is looking more and more to me like the 2002 Senate race in NJ where Toricelli (D) the corrupt dip would have lost to the R (I think his name was Doug Forrestal) by nearly 10 points. At the last moment the Dems pulled a bait and switch and threw Lautenberg into the race while Toricelli bowed out. Lautenberg won - he was an acceptable D within the stain of corruption on him. At this point and time I would have to equate CT with the NJ scenario. All this being said i do think it is POSSIBLE but not LIKELY that an R can win this seat. Depends on how sour the mood gets come November.


35 posted on 01/06/2010 7:32:50 AM PST by DM1
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To: DM1

Here, another take on incumbency. The RATS are the incumbent party in the two law making branches (well I guess the judiciary has taken to legislating from the bench, but that’s another topic.)

That said, throwing the RATS OUT, any RAT, in any race, anywhere is where the anti-incumbency mood you point out, may play out...even in CT, even in my silly blue WA State...


36 posted on 01/06/2010 7:37:01 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: SeattleBruce

yep exactly
as things stand now i would have to say the CT race leans Dem especially since their is a nasty R primary and apparently none on the Dem side at this point. If the mood does continue to sour then any Dem anywhere is going to be in trouble. Also worth noting if by some miracle Scott Brown wins in MA it may cause an avalanche of Dem retirements and completely demoralize Dems all over the place.


37 posted on 01/06/2010 7:44:29 AM PST by DM1
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Had not thought of that until I was watching Fox News this morning. They were talking about all the special deals made to various states to gather votes for the health care reform bill - barf. I’ll bet by the time the mid-terms elections roll around, there will be a big swing away from the liberal mindset.


38 posted on 01/06/2010 7:48:49 AM PST by tob2 (I would rather have a nuclear power plant in my backyard than Gitmo detainees.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

I think this is a great opportunity for conservative to run for election in a campaign about issues. When you have long serving members they can get re-elected on name recognition alone. In this year’s election many of these races will have a more level playing field than these states have seen in years. If Dodd does retire than 2 very long serving Dems will be gone from New England. This is a chance to start taking back this bloc from the liberals.


39 posted on 01/06/2010 7:55:22 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
It is pure folly....pure "wishful thinking" to believe that any dem having announced that they are quiting/retiring/not running for re-election made their decision "in a vacuum" so to speak.

Of course they are making deals!!!!!

Look at their behavior in congress....deals, spin, lies, bribes, theft, and other democrat "normal" activites.

Why would anyone think that these losers are leaving without sweetheart deals??

40 posted on 01/06/2010 8:00:13 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (Keep your friends close......keep your enemies closer!)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Democrat politicians are going to be dropped like a bad transmission in 2012 also.


41 posted on 01/06/2010 8:41:59 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: NewJerseyJoe
That won't be the case in N.D., that will be a pick up seat. And the D. Congressman is also in deep trouble as well.

Having these Democrats resign is a good thing, since it makes it an open seat, and easier to pick up.

42 posted on 01/06/2010 9:00:30 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: NeoCaveman
The Dems improved their chances on those two by retiring unpopular incumbents.

No, in a Republican year, it makes the Democrats weaker, not stronger.

Incrediable how some conservatives will find defeat in every victory.

News-1942- America just won the Battle of Midway and sank 4 enemy carriers. FReeper-Oh No! That is just what they wanted us to do!

Now, they will REALLY start fighting hard!

43 posted on 01/06/2010 9:04:36 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

I can see how that might work to their favor.

After watching what the Democrats have done with power, I’m not convinced Candidate(D) is going to look good to anyone this fall though. I think it does make it easier for a Democrat candidate to be viable.

If that U.S. Senate seat in Massachusetts goes (R), the Democrats will (hopefully) have done all this for nothing.


44 posted on 01/06/2010 9:10:03 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Good news. HC bill will not cover illegal aliens. Bad news. 20-35 million will be made citizens.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Your concerns are valid, but there are distinctions between a job search before retirement from public office, political horsetrading, and prosecutable corruption. I am hard put to construct a theory under which failure to run for reelection could be considered a prosecutable theft of “honest services” under the federal Hobbs Act.


45 posted on 01/06/2010 9:10:11 AM PST by Rockingham
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I'm interested in hearing more about Connecticut.

If you recall, when Lieberman didn't win the Democrat primary (Ned Lamont did), much was made about the political make-up of Connecticut. As I recall, only about 25% of Connecticut was registered Democrat, with the majority registered as Independent. With low turnout in the primary, Lamont won with effectively 10% of the Democrat vote. This is why Lieberman chose to run as an Independent in the general election.

Given that, do we still think that Connecticut will reactively go Democrat, or will the majority of Independents give the Republican a chance?

-PJ

46 posted on 01/06/2010 9:10:59 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Well the Dems KNOW that people in this country have turned against them.


47 posted on 01/06/2010 9:21:16 AM PST by Biggirl (Happy 2010!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
any Democrats considered too “damaged” to re-elect — and replace them with “more likeable” (and thus more electable) Democrats, in the hopes of maintaining a majority.”

Not gonna work.
Why?
Look at the Virgina governorship elections,
The Democrats had a new “fresh face” candidate (not the old incumnbebt governor), and they still got clobbered by a massive close to 20%, which is about the highest margin any Republican has ever won in statewide elections for decades.
It's not so much about individual Democratic Party candidates anymore, it’s the Tea Parties, It's the American voters being totally fed up with the Democrats(look at the latest Rasmussen generic congressional poll), and its about kicking the Democrats out of office.
All you need is to have a “D” after your name, and voters will vote against you.

48 posted on 01/06/2010 10:39:19 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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I hope you're right -- but I disagree with you about Virginia. IIRC, even Democrats thought that Creigh Deeds was a loser candidate -- plus he'd been thrown under the bus by the Teleprompter.

The bottom line is that I won't trust a Democrat even one inch. I smell Pelosi and Rahm Emmanuel behind all (or most) of these resignations and droppings-out of races....

49 posted on 01/06/2010 10:47:08 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: fortheDeclaration
No, in a Republican year, it makes the Democrats weaker, not stronger.”

Correct.

News-1942- America just won the Battle of Midway and sank 4 enemy carriers. FReeper-Oh No! That is just what they wanted us to do!

Now, they will REALLY start fighting hard! “

LOL!
Couldn't have put it better myself.
I bet these are the same Freepers who kept insisting that Christie would never be able to beat Corzine in New Jersey, because “New Jersey will never vote for a Republican” and The Democrats will “bring in ACORN, SEIU blah blah to steal the election”. They kept insisting that Corzine could win right onto polling day, even when it had become clear that Christie had won.
Personally, I think there are Democratic Party 5th columnists at FR, who's business it is to be “realistic” by constantly postulating that the Republican's can't win in such and such elections. You gotta take such posts with a great deal of skepticism.

50 posted on 01/06/2010 10:47:44 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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