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FIRST TIME IN U.S. HISTORY THAT A SITTING PRESIDENT’S ELIGIBILITY QUESTIONED BY MEMBER OF CONGRESS
The Post & Email ^ | Jan. 5, 2010 | P. Patriot

Posted on 01/06/2010 6:30:17 AM PST by SvenMagnussen

(Jan. 5, 2010) — The Post & Email can publicly confirm that on the first of December, last, U.S. Congressman Nathan Deal (GA-R) challenged the eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama to hold the office of the U.S. presidency.

Todd Smith, Chief of Staff for Representative Nathan Deal of the United States House of Representatives serving Georgia’s 9th district, has confirmed today that Deal has sent a letter to Barack Hussein Obama requesting him to prove his eligibility for the office of President of the United States of America. The letter was sent electronically the first of December 2009 in pdf format, and Mr. Smith said that Representative Deal has confirmation from Obama’s staff that it has been received. The letter did not have additional signatories. It originated solely from Representative Deal.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: barackhusseinobama; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; deal; dontstepintroll; drew68troll; eligibility; fraud; liar; nathandeal; nonsequitertroll; obama; puppet; putativepresident; trollsonfr; usurper; whoisyourdaddy; whoseyourdaddy; whosyourdaddy
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To: Non-Sequitur

Do you really believe that federal statutes can amend the constitution?

The definition of natural born citizen (as applied to the constitution) has never changed.


351 posted on 01/06/2010 4:56:16 PM PST by candeee
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To: Art in Idaho
Sorry I don't mean to be insulting but yes that notion is naive.

Also where do you think the CIA gets the authority to “check out” as you call it an American citizen?
Before the CIA can give you a clearance, you have to sign documents giving them permission to vet you for that clearance. Even the FBI needs legal authorization.

A CIA analyst can not wake up one morning and go into his office and decide to “investigative” someone or something because he feels like it. The CIA can no more do this then Air Force OSI analyst can decide to investigate say his neighbor. Every action particularly in the information age leaves an “audit trail” and analysts & field people are constantly “audited” to make sure that every action done & dollar spent is against the “target list”. It is a absolutely career ending and/or prosecutable action if someone should spend time & dollars against something not on that list. To even get time on a “national asset” means many many targeting committee approvals. So doing what you are suggesting wouldn't remain "secret" very long. The person that did this would be very lucky if he was only demoted!
The “rogue” federal agency notion is for spy novels, TV & movies.

352 posted on 01/06/2010 4:57:16 PM PST by Reily (overning)
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To: dalebert
Truthfully?

Because he is black and they got to keep the myth alive.

353 posted on 01/06/2010 5:02:40 PM PST by rambo316 (Take Back America)
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To: ClearCase_guy

In my opinion - anyone who may be affected/impacted by bobo’s acts, either directly or indirectly, has standing to require proof of eligibility. Any judge that ‘finds’ differently, should then clearly state why that person has no standing (rather than just ruling that the person has no standing with no explanation whatsoever), or be removed from his judgeship. Also, if standing is a requirement, I think the just-us dept should come out and say just who DOES have standing rather than just leave us guessing.


354 posted on 01/06/2010 5:05:49 PM PST by KIDFOH
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To: Brown Deer

>>It does not define the term
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>So, do you always go to the Constitution to find definitions of terms? Good luck, because you won’t find very many terms defined in the Constitution.

Treason is one such term; it is interesting to note that besieging DC would NOT be an act of treason under the Constitution as DC is NOT a state.


355 posted on 01/06/2010 5:07:41 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Art in Idaho
back to the original question, “Who checks out the President”?

No one!
The CPUSA Presidential candidate even when he/she was a the absolute cat's paw of the old USSR during Cold War, if he/she would have actually won. Well then they won, too bad American voter! American voter you should have cared more about the voting franchise then about who is on American Idol!
A voter has great responsibility, candidate character matters ! It's the voter's job to vet the candidate! However I am sure you know that or you wouldn't be on this forum.

356 posted on 01/06/2010 5:11:47 PM PST by Reily (overning)
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To: El Gato
Probably what Stanley Ann told Lolo. Doesn't make it true.

The what makes anything else on it - name, nationality, religion, etc. - true?

357 posted on 01/06/2010 5:13:54 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: candeee
The definition of natural born citizen (as applied to the constitution) has never changed.

And where in the Constitution is it defined?

358 posted on 01/06/2010 5:14:45 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: jackv
That’s a good one!! What are you, 6 or 7??

Old enough so that I don't have to try lame attempts at insult by implying my opponent is a child.

359 posted on 01/06/2010 5:16:00 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: OneWingedShark
Treason is one such term; it is interesting to note that besieging DC would NOT be an act of treason under the Constitution as DC is NOT a state.

But since D.C is part of the United States then yes, it would.

360 posted on 01/06/2010 5:17:56 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

I don’t appreciate the personal attacks. If you want to call people names go somewhere else!


361 posted on 01/06/2010 5:19:37 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: hippyhater
There is nothing factual about the birth announcements appearing in two different newspapers but it kind of adds credence to Obama being borned in the US.

It may, but it shouldn't. The announcements do not give a place of birth, not even the hospital. They were presumably generated by the filing of the birth certificate, as is customary. But as to what the BC says, about Hospital, if any, doctor, if any, and who signed as witness to the birht, is still a mystery. One that could be solved quite easily by a court, or BHO, authorizing the state of Hawaii to release a certified copy of the original BC. Now such a document might still say he was born in Hawaii, but if someone other than a doctor or nurse signed it as witness, and the place is other than a hospital in Hawaii, then it would cast doubt on the legitimacy of that filing.

The COLB does not show the hospital or address at which the bith took place, nor does it show the doctor's name. Furthermore the file number it does show, is lower than those of the Nordyke twins, who were born in Kapi'olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital Aug. 5, 1961, one day after Obama was supposedly born at the same facility. But their long form birth certificate shows that it was filed Aug. 11th, 3 days *after* the date listed as the date Obama's was filed.

362 posted on 01/06/2010 5:21:36 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Haha! Another cute one! And my momma wears army boots, right???

You’re adorable!


363 posted on 01/06/2010 5:21:51 PM PST by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: El Gato
Got a link to the article where they said this?

Yeah, that very article you posted the link to. The one where they list 8 defects in the document. The one where they say their sources call it a forgery. The one where they posted an actual picture of an actual Kenyan birth certificate from that period and which didn't look anything like Smith's document. That article.

364 posted on 01/06/2010 5:22:11 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Lower55

The source is not going to appear on FR, you can take that to the bank. It is in very good hands and will be exposed when it is really needed and now isn’t the time. SCOTUS isn’t going to touch this now. It will be aired repeatedly prior to the 2010 or 2012 elections. It does exist. He did say it. It was on You Tube, they refused to let it stay up. Luckily some were smart enough to save it. Suffice to say, it is in very good hands. I doubt the people that have it can be bought off.


365 posted on 01/06/2010 5:23:20 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Brown Deer
I don’t appreciate the personal attacks.

I wasn't aware that identifying someone with the Birthers is a personal attack. Regardless, you should expect to be known by the company you keep.

366 posted on 01/06/2010 5:25:58 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Boonie
"...with a witch doctor shaking bones over him as a midwife delivered him"

LOLOL! Good one.

367 posted on 01/06/2010 5:26:13 PM PST by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: curiosity

Maybe not, but the Marxist Kenyan boy king wannabe saying it HIMSELF will be pretty damning. Alan Keyes said “ You weren’t even born in the US”. The Kenyan said “ So what, I’m not running for president”. Now my response would have been, “ Yes I was you fool, I was born in Hawaii”.


368 posted on 01/06/2010 5:26:24 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Boonie
"...with a witch doctor shaking bones over him as a midwife delivered him"

LOLOL! Good one.

369 posted on 01/06/2010 5:26:28 PM PST by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: Non-Sequitur
Well that's rather a ridiculous question. No they cannot, and I've never said that they could.

But you do believe they could have a child born in the US, say by shipping the mother here on a student visa, or better by having the mother be a US citizen and come "home" for the birth. Then take that child back to be raised in the father's homeland, to return to live here for 14 years, then run for and be elected President? You suppose the founders would have accepted one of King George's grandsons as a Natural Born citizen, if the father had not become a US citizen before the child was born? I sort of doubt it.

370 posted on 01/06/2010 5:29:31 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Lower55; LucyT; Rushmore Rocks; MestaMachine
>>>> "Obama knows he's not a NBC and has said so himself....When he was running for senate." <<<< Lower55, May G-d Bless You and Keep You Safe.
371 posted on 01/06/2010 5:30:19 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Lower55

Obama himself admitted that he wasn’t a natural born citizen when he debated Alan Keyes in 2004
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He admitted more than that. Much more. Not during the debate, after and there is a video.


372 posted on 01/06/2010 5:30:29 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Reily
Good points. Thanks for the info. Yes, I was making too many assumptions.
373 posted on 01/06/2010 5:32:12 PM PST by Art in Idaho
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To: tired_old_conservative

That’s an urban myth that no one can produce an actual link
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Keep telling yourself that, you aren’t getting a linky and neither is anyone else. The tape is in good hands and will be used when it is needed the most. It sure as hell won’t be posted here or put on You Tube.


374 posted on 01/06/2010 5:32:39 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: LucyT; Rushmore Rocks

*ping*


375 posted on 01/06/2010 5:33:32 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Reily

It wasn’t during the debate, it was after.


376 posted on 01/06/2010 5:40:55 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe
Maybe not, but the Marxist Kenyan boy king wannabe saying it HIMSELF will be pretty damning. Alan Keyes said “ You weren’t even born in the US”. The Kenyan said “ So what, I’m not running for president”.

Do you have any proof that such an exchange ever too place? If you did, I agree with you, it would be pretty damning.

But, as yet, no birther has managed to produce either transcript or a video proving the exchange took place. Heck, not even Alan Keyes himself has mentioned it.

Hence, I think it's pretty safe to conclude some birther made it up.

377 posted on 01/06/2010 5:41:11 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Non-Sequitur
Regardless, you should expect to be known by the company you keep.

So, you are a birther?
378 posted on 01/06/2010 5:42:47 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: SE Mom

Ditto everything you said. I’m not an Orly fan either. I admire her tenacity, but she makes me crazy. A good lawyer plays his cards close to his chest.


379 posted on 01/06/2010 5:42:54 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe
I'm really impressed by that Secret Squirrel. Be sure and use your decoder ring when you communicate the master plan to the Illuminati.
380 posted on 01/06/2010 5:43:07 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: mel

Clinton wasn’t a Kenyan Pinko Muslim traitor that was hell bent on destroying this country. The Kenyan is one termer. I’ll put money on that.


381 posted on 01/06/2010 5:44:27 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: rxsid
. Nixon resigned after the House passage of allegations (impeached).

No, Nixon resigned when the House Judiciary Committee approved 3 articles of Impeachment.

Nixon, unlike Clinton, was never impeached by the House. The House brought 4 articles of impeachment against him. Nixon did have enough honor to resign, again unlike Billy Jeff.

Only two Presidents have been impeached, Andrew Johnson (Lincoln's VP) and William Jefferson Blythe Clinton. Neither was convicted in the Senate. Although in Johnson's case I believe the Senators at least looked at the evidence, and did not argue Scottish law. In fact they took over 2 months to do so, and fell only 1 vote short of conviction. There were 11 articles of impeachment. But Johnson's real "crime" was trying to "go easy" on the defeated South, as Lincoln wished to do, and being a Southerner himself.

Clinton's was lying under oath.

382 posted on 01/06/2010 5:46:35 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: jackv

He acts 6 or 7. Thinks he is witty. He’s actually pretty old, ugly and a huge geek.


383 posted on 01/06/2010 5:47:07 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

384 posted on 01/06/2010 5:47:25 PM PST by MestaMachine (Your CORE is the path you walk. RINOs don't walk paths, they build roads to nowhere..)
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To: Non-Sequitur

>>Treason is one such term; it is interesting to note that besieging DC would NOT be an act of treason under the Constitution as DC is NOT a state.
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>But since D.C is part of the United States then yes, it would.

Let’s see what the Constitution says, here is Sec. 3 of Art. 3:
“Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted
of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

1) Note the plural of “them” in the sentence, obviously this indicates that the states themselves are being referenced.
2) Secondly, note that nobody is to be convicted of Treason except on a) confession in an open court, OR b) the testimonies of at least two people.
3) Section 8 of Article 1 says, in part, this:
“To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be”
This is referring to what would later become Washington DC; note that is is specifically NOT a state, but rather a district.
4) Note the second part of the definition of Treason: “or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort” this can be quite nicely illustrated by the so called “sanctuary cities” where the local governance acts in defiance of laws AND allows those who could rightly be considered invaders more than just a little protection.

Therefore, while an attack [by a foreign power] on DC would rightly be considered an Act of War as it is an assault upon the seat of our governance, it is not Treason for the people, or even several states, to besiege that city. Perhaps Sedition, but that has a different definition.


385 posted on 01/06/2010 5:50:06 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: mojitojoe
I still want to see the source.
Also why hasn't Keyes been more vocal about this?
It seems to me if it happened and can be reliably sourced Keyes and others would be using it.
386 posted on 01/06/2010 5:51:07 PM PST by Reily (overning)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Our whole government is lawless, yet they keep heaping laws on the citizens. Laws and taxes. Who works for whom when they can spend our money before they even have it?


387 posted on 01/06/2010 5:52:34 PM PST by antonia (A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. - Edward R. Murrow)
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To: Brown Deer; LucyT; MHGinTN; Las Vegas Ron; Candor7

He always calls FReepers names. He’s only nice all the time when he’s posting over at Kos and DU. See what a nice person this ah is?

Why would he grant it without giving the other side a chance to respond? Are you sure you aren’t clueless?
Well, keep telling yourself that stuff and we’ll see what happens in October.
Hope this helps.
NS-Not at all, jerkface.
The first thing you’ve said to date that we can agree on, you blithering jackass.
Thanks for confirming you’re a fool.
But if I abandon it then I let the loonies win and spread their nonsense unchallenged – NS REFERRING TO FREEPERS AS LOONIES
You too, butthead.
It’s really a sad state of affairs when the President of the United States cannot address school children
I swear you people must not realize just how ridiculous you sound some times.
I guess you’re just not as bright as your buddies, huh?
You boneheads just don’t get it, do you?
It also means that no future president will ever be able to address America’s students in a nationwide speech ever again.
I see people jumping on the Palin bandwagon for the same reason that they jumped on the Obama bandwagon - a pretty face who talks a good game
If a stupid crack by David Letterman and ethics charges by political opponents are more than she can handle then she should by all means stay on the rubber chicken circuit where it’s safe and out of politics
Sahah Palin as Winston Churchill? The ultimate ROTFLMAO moment.
So you’re agreeing with the author that the acid test of conservatism is rejecting evolution and opposing abortion rather that smaller government and lower taxes?
Has General Mills announced their pulling out, like advertisers for Beck did?
Sounds as nutty as Fred Phelps.
Well. They’re both Baptists.

Nah it far more fun hanging around here watching boobs like you
Yes well when it comes to being stupid I’ll defer to your expertise in that.
The health care trainwreck didn’t hurt the Clintons in 1996.
An Open Letter from President Obama to Joe Farah: “No.”
A FOX show that distorts to the right? Who would a thunk it?
Yeah, but the majority will condemn him because he’s a Muslim.
If he dumps the public option then his only alternative is to lean on the private companies to insure anyone. That should result in higher costs for the rest of us.
Cheney Uncloaks His Frustration With Bush
Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:36:26 AM • 83 of 289
Non-Sequitur to meandog
As a rule I don’t buy politician’s memoirs. But I might make an exception in this case.
Earth to Steele, Earth to Steele, come in Steele. Every president stacks the room for events like this. Obama didn’t invent the process.
The Birther movement could disappear tomorrow and the GOP would be in the same sorry shape it’s currently in.
The problem, of course, being that the GOP is on a faster track to oblivion and are not in a position to take advantage.
Note* Here he replies to a troll that was then banned:
Is this really it? (re: possible Obama’s Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
Thursday, August 06, 2009 1:17:57 PM • 7,353 of 10,244
Non-Sequitur to Cymraeg
You Birthers are a disgrace to America.
Yeah but they’re fun to watch.
Non-Sequitur has admitted that he/she/it comes to these threads as a means to amuse him/her/itself by fomenting as much fuss as he/she/it can.
And you never fail to provide that amusement.

*note.( just because this is funny I had to throw it in)
If I’d ever had a son I would have named him Caractacus. Either that or Bob. And I was going to name my daughter Boudicca but my wife insisted on naming her after her grandmothers
I know people who have been out of work for 18 months or more. Who knew Obama’s actions went back that far?
She has committed political suicide. Palin will never be president, will never even be the Republican candidate for president. Bookmark this thread and see if I’m right.
Where’s the book you moron? So you can prove what you’ve been blathering about all this time.

April Is Also Confederate History Month
Sunday, April 05, 2009 5:12:27 PM • 314 of 667
Non-Sequitur to stainlessbanner
Don’t think Wlat was a professor.
Nor do I ever recall him claiming he was one. I believe he was from Tennessee, but I never held that against him.
I guarantee this: YOU WOULD NEVER SEE A SOUTHERNER BOW TO A SAUDI.
Nah. Y’all are into holding hands.
*Note then he posts pic of Bush with Saudi King
. If you Southron know one thing it’s how to hate.
It’s interesting to see that Canadians are just as clueless as you are.
According to meteorlogy, period, the water cycle makes Noah’s flood impossible.
We Should Build a Bigger Navy - China is.
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:34:33 AM • 43 of 62
Non-Sequitur to unkus
If anything, our whole military is going to be used and abused and cut.
Where have you been for the last 8 years?
Obama is my President, only if
Monday, November 03, 2008 8:04:02 PM • 48 of 99
Non-Sequitur to SonsOfLibertyII
Obama is my President, only if
So where you moving to if he wins?
A lot of tasteless FReepers and their sick paranoia probably.
You strike me as someone who will happily follow Obama into the fascist tyranny he will take this country, and you will gladly forfeit the last of your freedom; and you will brook no dissent, just because it is “the Union.” You remind me of those folks who screamed “My country right or wrong!” several years ago. You’re brownshirt material, alright.
NS- Ah, the last gasp of the Sothron psychotic: it nothing else works accuse your opponent of being a liberal. Nice to see that you’re being true to form. No doubt the fact that you can connect a black man to your pejorative is only icing on the cake for you.


388 posted on 01/06/2010 5:52:45 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

Ah!! Ok, I will just pity him then! :o)


389 posted on 01/06/2010 5:56:57 PM PST by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: tired_old_conservative

“Obama’s campaign sent in $10 or whatever, got a standard issue COLB from Hawaii, and thought, like any normal person, that this would settle the issue. They didn’t realize they were dealing with a bunch of lunatics impervious to reality.”

So once they realized they were dealing with a bunch of lunatics why didn’t they provide the long form with the doc’s name and signature? Rather they have tied up several courts and spent large sums of money (probably taxpayers)to keep this document from seeing the light of day. From an earlier post and worth repeating, “Silence can only be equated with fraud where there is a legal or moral duty to speak or where an inquiry left unanswered would be intentionally misleading.” United States v Prudder, 424 F. 2d 1021(5thCir. 1970),cert. denied,

400 U.S. 831 (1970)


390 posted on 01/06/2010 5:59:47 PM PST by Josephat
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To: Reily
You get a security clearance by winning the election

No, you get to see whatever you wish without one. But you have to ask to see or be told stuff.

The Constitution allows the voter to be a colossal fool and put an absolute traitor in office if the voter is so inclined.

As in the case of Red Ron Dellums, who came within a hair's breadth of being head of the House Intelligence committee, which he would have likely become if the Dems had held onto the House in '94. He's currently mayor of Oakland CA.

391 posted on 01/06/2010 6:01:39 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: GYPSY286
I’m thinking she “knows” that this birther thing is going to come to a head with all he** breaking out.

Yes, but don't forget that SHE too will feel all Hell, because she is an enabler by sending sworn statements to all SoS!!!

392 posted on 01/06/2010 6:01:58 PM PST by danamco
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To: mojitojoe
Rather amazin' ain't it?

Been watching this "Truth Squad" BS from afar. Never changes.


393 posted on 01/06/2010 6:02:31 PM PST by MestaMachine (Your CORE is the path you walk. RINOs don't walk paths, they build roads to nowhere..)
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To: x
Probably this should have been thrashed out before Obama entered the White House,

Folks tried, the courts and the "media" were not interested. In the later case they'd have called anyone who questioned The One's eligibility racist.

394 posted on 01/06/2010 6:06:21 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: mojitojoe

LOL!!! Thanks for the info. Sounds like NS is really al franken!!! (Of course he’ll consider that a compliment.)


395 posted on 01/06/2010 6:07:56 PM PST by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Native born' or 'natural born,'... they're all different terms for the same thing

Chief Justice Waite (in Minor v. Happersett) takes the liberty to use the terms interchangeably.

I just thought it odd that fight the smears would use the more obscure term, Native born; rather than the well known one, Natural born

. ... the Constitution identifies two specific forms of citizenship - natural born and naturalized.

Yes, and you also believe that Obama is a Natural/Native Born Citizen -- even though he admits his father was a foreign national.

Correct?

The same Chief Justice Waite (in Minor v. Happersett)indicates that the above stance is worthy of doubt, as follows:

In Minor v. Happersett Chief Justice Waite delivered the opinion of the court, which included a definition of natural-born citizens based on the common-law:

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents{PLURAL} who were its citizens{PLURAL}became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been DOUBTS but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these DOUBTS. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.

(emphases mine)

It would seem that if Chief Justice Waite were on this forum he would be called a "birther" for indicating that such a birth as Obama's is fraught with doubt as to his (Obama's)Natural/Native Born status.

STE=Q

396 posted on 01/06/2010 6:11:15 PM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: rxsid

It can’t and anyone with an ounce of common sense would realize that.


397 posted on 01/06/2010 6:11:56 PM PST by Josephat
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To: Oberon; Boonie

“I really do not know if he’s a natural-born citizen or not...”


Maybe this could help you out???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsX5DzZHkIU&feature=PlayList&p=B278681E23614868&index=0


398 posted on 01/06/2010 6:16:02 PM PST by danamco
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To: rambo316
Because he is black

He is? Funny he looks more like Stanley A. Dunham, a white guy from Kansas, than anyone one else.

399 posted on 01/06/2010 6:17:18 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Reily

On iPhone now tomorrow I look I remember it well


400 posted on 01/06/2010 6:18:48 PM PST by mel
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