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FIRST TIME IN U.S. HISTORY THAT A SITTING PRESIDENTíS ELIGIBILITY QUESTIONED BY MEMBER OF CONGRESS
The Post & Email ^ | Jan. 5, 2010 | P. Patriot

Posted on 01/06/2010 6:30:17 AM PST by SvenMagnussen

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To: Red Steel

I want to know what mom’s agenda is for carry the usurper’s water that we should NOT see all his records. Schumer says we should see them!!!


651 posted on 01/08/2010 10:46:15 PM PST by danamco
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To: tired_old_conservative

You sir would believe that s*it was chocate no matter what just to be right. In fact you are WRONG. I have Hawaiian friends. YOU are wrong. The entire thing and scenario is wrong. The man is fraud and you know it you just don’t care. I feel sorry for you poor clues who believe in this guy. When the the hard truth hits you in the face, who are you going to turn to??? Answer: Nobody. Your on your own. If you think this creep is gonna help you well, think again!! CO


652 posted on 01/08/2010 10:49:46 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: danamco
I'm not talking about heated dialog, which scares me not in the least. Try charging a machine gun nest sometime.

I'm simply saying it's common courtesy to avoid vulgar attempts at crude sexual humor on a site with elderly folk and devout Christians. If you choose to be gratuitously and childishly vulgar, I certainly can't stop you. It's simply an expression of who you are.

653 posted on 01/08/2010 10:51:17 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: Non-Sequitur

Birthers never disappoint???? Neither do site pests!! Honestly I don’t know why you spend your time here unless you are sent by SEIU, acorn OR THE WHITEHOUSE. You didn’t come from nowhere. We ALL know that!! You confuse or fool nobody.!! CO


654 posted on 01/08/2010 10:54:17 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: tired_old_conservative

ONLY Three (3) months with NO constructive posting here, is going to lecture us on what to say, GIVE ME A BREAK!!!


655 posted on 01/08/2010 10:55:26 PM PST by danamco
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To: danamco
Is there any doubt that both Hillary & Bush are NBC's???

No doubt from any direction.

656 posted on 01/08/2010 10:59:03 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: tired_old_conservative
Try charging a machine gun nest sometime.

Try to be in the Atlantic Ocean's hurricanes with 30-50 feet waves!!!

657 posted on 01/08/2010 10:59:14 PM PST by danamco
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To: Canadian Outrage

Well, somebody has seen his name posting at DU. ‘Nuf said!!!


658 posted on 01/08/2010 11:01:05 PM PST by danamco
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To: danamco

Exactly!! CO


659 posted on 01/08/2010 11:03:51 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: Canadian Outrage
“You sir would believe that s*it was chocate no matter what just to be right. In fact you are WRONG. I have Hawaiian friends. YOU are wrong. The entire thing and scenario is wrong. The man is fraud and you know it you just don’t care. I feel sorry for you poor clues who believe in this guy. When the the hard truth hits you in the face, who are you going to turn to??? Answer: Nobody. Your on your own. If you think this creep is gonna help you well, think again!! CO”

Congratulations. I have Hawaiian friends to. They're quite pleasant. How about yours?

With that out of the way, let me note that it is common in debate to provide a thesis, which is the point you plan to make. Supporting points are then factual details that support the thesis. You should really try that model some time. It's quite effective and time proven. The structure it provides also helps avoid weird outbursts about chocolate and the odd assumption that having friends makes you right about any proposition other than your personal ability to have friends.

It is, however, amusing for a veteran who shed blood for the United States to be lectured by some belligerent Canadain about my desires for my country.

660 posted on 01/08/2010 11:10:46 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: danamco

Very well. I concede your right to be childish and vulgar. May it bring you happiness in the years to come.


661 posted on 01/08/2010 11:12:40 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: Canadian Outrage
Wow, I see our very newest "spammer" friend, the "old fart" (that will piss him off) and - Holier Than Thou - a professed Christian and "Conservative (?)" is lecturing you for being a Canadian-American friend, wow-wow!

In my area we have quite a large population of Canadian "Snow-birds" flying the Canadian flag alongside Old Glory!!

Thank you for standing up for the U.S and its Constitution, and its value, I call you Patriots that were with us during WWII, however, we have a few here that wants it to be destroyed!!!

So would in not be fair to call him a Pinhead???

662 posted on 01/09/2010 5:28:32 AM PST by danamco
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To: danamco

Sorry, should read: Would it not be......


663 posted on 01/09/2010 5:32:58 AM PST by danamco
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To: Canadian Outrage
Honestly I don’t know why you spend your time here unless you are sent by SEIU, acorn OR THE WHITEHOUSE.

And when Birthers have nothing else to babble about they accuse their opponents of being liberals or Obama supporters, which is about as logical as the rest of their arguments. I think that I can speak for the rest of my colleagues when I say we take these positions because we believe that they are right and that your whack-job arguments are wrong. And that we would be doing this regardless of who your target was - be it John McCain or Bobby Jindal or even Barack Obama.

You confuse or fool nobody.!!

Most Birthers I've met about don't need me to look confused or appear foolish.

664 posted on 01/09/2010 6:18:19 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Canadian Outrage
Oh well, I guess you can include Jim in us “hard core” birthers then.

And who was it who said, "You have the gall to state what Jim Robinson thinks?" Birthers are nothing if not hypocritical.

The one who gives YOU the right to post your bullcrap on HIS site!!

And who also allows you to post your bullsh*t as well.

There isn’t ANY LOGICAL reason and YOU know it.

Logic, reason, and Birthers have little to do with each other.

665 posted on 01/09/2010 6:22:48 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: danamco
Mom; you conveniently "tap-danced" / side-stepped my question by NOT answered it! McLame's short form and even his longform (the one your friend refuses to show) has been posted here numerous times!!

As far as I know, McCain has never released his birth certificate. He showed a copy to a reporter, and apparently the copies that have been circulating the web were obtained by the lawyer in the Hollander case (dismissed - lack of standing) from Donald Lamb in Panama. There is some question as to its authenticity.

If you have a source that shows McCain did release his birth certificate, I would like to see it.

666 posted on 01/09/2010 7:54:21 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom
Here's one for you.

And here's another one....

667 posted on 01/09/2010 8:10:27 AM PST by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: danamco
Is there any doubt that both Hillary & Bush are NBC's???

Why is there doubt about Obama's Hawaiian birth?

Now to the real issue on this thread, what do you think about Congressman Deal's letter

Not much. I guess it gives the birthers the illusion that Deal has done something, but basically there is no there there.

Now if Rep Deal raised the issue in Congress, that would be something.

668 posted on 01/09/2010 8:13:50 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: usmcobra
Here's one for you.

And here's another one....

Yes, thank you. Both articles support what I have already stated.

669 posted on 01/09/2010 8:20:35 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: danamco
I want to know what mom’s agenda is for carry the usurper’s water that we should NOT see all his records. Schumer says we should see them!!!

If you what to know what my agenda is, wouldn't make sense to address the post to me rather than Red Steel?

"Schumer says...". So what? It is an opinion only. When total disclosure becomes a requirement that applies equally to every candidate, then we will have something more than an opinion.

670 posted on 01/09/2010 8:50:59 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom
If you have a source that shows McCain did release his birth certificate, I would like to see it.

Amazing how people are capable to twist things!!!

How hard is for you to understand that the short/long forms of his certificates have been posted here numerous times. Why don't you research it yourself instead of asking others to do the job for you. Still again the unanswered question: WHY IS IT THAT YOU DON'T WANT US TO SEE YOUR USURPER's SEALED RECORDS. THERE MUST BE A VALID REASON FOR THAT INSTEAD OF CONTINUING THE "TAP-DANCING"???

If I would have asked that question to my mom, she would sure have answered it honestly and truthfully!!!

671 posted on 01/09/2010 9:10:38 AM PST by danamco
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To: lucysmom

“Why is there doubt about Obama’s Hawaiian birth?”


Because in contrary to McLame’s, we have NOT seen the usurper’s vaulted long form B.C.!

That’s all there is to it, except for that is what you are trying to cover up by telling us we should NOT see it. However, the B.C. is totally irrelevant.

Because of his father, you have now a British/E.U. citizen (probable also an Indonesian citizen) falsely occupying the W.H. by treason!!

Do you think this would help you out, or is that also JUST an opinion???

http://www.scribd.com/doc/11110505/JohnMcCain-Birth-Certificate-long-and-short-form-Colon-Panama-1936

Why do you think that McLame needed a Senate resolution to white wash his eligibility?

Had he won the election your dems would have run him out of town for the same reason we want your hero to be run out of town ASAP to save our nation from being destroyed!!!


672 posted on 01/09/2010 9:43:07 AM PST by danamco
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To: lucysmom
If you what to know what my agenda is, wouldn't make sense to address the post to me rather than Red Steel?

Really, you say I didn't?

How come you continuously twists things??

But you still have the opportunity to answer the question that you are side-stepping???

673 posted on 01/09/2010 10:09:51 AM PST by danamco
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To: danamco; lucysmom
McCain asked Constitutional experts to appraise his NBC status and he submitted the documentation. But Obama, noway nohow would he ever do such a thing...the usurper. See the article's bold and the underlined words below:

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Obama Refuses to Answer Birth Certificate Lawsuit

Friday, 24 Oct 2008 04:16 PM
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By: Kenneth R. Timmerman

A Pennsylvania lawsuit alleging that Barack Obama is not a “natural-born citizen” of the United States took an unusual twist this week, after a federally mandated deadline requiring Obama’s lawyers to produce a “vault” copy of his birth certificate expired with no response from Obama or his lawyers.

-snip-

Ironically, Obama mentions his birth certificate in passing on Page 26 of his 1995 memoir, “Dreams of My Father.” “I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school,” he wrote.

Lawyers for Obama and the DNC did not return calls for comment on the current status of the case, or explain why the Obama campaign did not simply put to rest the whole controversy by releasing the birth certificate that Obama apparently cherished as a teenager.

In the past, questions about Sen. John McCain's legal status have arisen. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone at a U.S. Army hospital. McCain had legal experts vet his constitutional qualifications, and he also disclosed a copy of his birth certificate.

-end snip-

http://newsmax.com/Headline/obama-birth-certificate/2008/10/24/id/326119

674 posted on 01/09/2010 11:31:53 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: danamco
But you still have the opportunity to answer the question that you are side-stepping???

I did answer the question, you just don't like the answer.

675 posted on 01/09/2010 11:48:17 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: danamco; lucysmom
Now don’t give us your typically “tap-dancing,” McLame did show his, which Chuckie said was the right thing to do, huh!!!

McCain showed it alright while Obama refuses to show his REAL BC in any instance...

676 posted on 01/09/2010 12:28:22 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: lucysmom
To the "tap-dancing" mom!

Since I have NOT seen your answer, can we try again, on just this very very simple question!!

WHAT IS YOUR MOTIVE, AND WHY IS IT THAT Y O U DON'T WANT US TO SEE SOETORO'S LONG FORM B.C.???

There is no need here to do any side-stepping or change the issue. I am convinced that the majority of posters on this thread would appreciate an honest answer from you!!!

677 posted on 01/09/2010 1:12:49 PM PST by danamco
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To: tired_old_conservative

How about your friend James Carville is he vulgar too on Drudge???

“Carville: Airport scanners can ‘measure my penis’”


678 posted on 01/09/2010 1:18:11 PM PST by danamco
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To: lucysmom

In post 672 were a few other questions that you didn’t answered!!!


679 posted on 01/09/2010 1:27:56 PM PST by danamco
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To: tired_old_conservative
I did post and discuss Russell Kirk's ten principles of conservatism.

Oldie, we all know that your participation as a Freeper has totally been concentrating on spamming (or Alinsky tactics) on every post regarding Soetoro's ineligibility and sealed records you could lay your eyes on here and defending the usurper's treason!

You have NOT posted anything of value on any other F.R. thread issues!!

In a short period of three (3) months you have shown your face clearly here by amassing 300+ post on this issue alone, ONLY, not on any other issues, and that is a fact!!!

So where can we find where you have posted discussion of Russell Kirk's ten principle of conservatism???

680 posted on 01/09/2010 3:05:37 PM PST by danamco
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To: danamco
CarVILE

LoL!

681 posted on 01/09/2010 3:48:18 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
In the past, questions about Sen. John McCain's legal status have arisen. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone at a U.S. Army hospital. McCain had legal experts vet his constitutional qualifications, and he also disclosed a copy of his birth certificate.

Disclosed a copy of his birth certificate to whom?

682 posted on 01/09/2010 5:08:56 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom; Red Steel
Disclosed a copy of his birth certificate to whom?

Wow, what an INCREDIBLE question, LOL!!!

683 posted on 01/09/2010 7:50:06 PM PST by danamco
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Wow, what an INCREDIBLE question, LOL!!!

Then answer it. Disclose it to whom? Who is tasked with checking it out and determining authenticity? What does the Constitution say? Or the law?

684 posted on 01/10/2010 5:53:31 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur; danamco
Then answer it. Disclose it to whom? Who is tasked with checking it out and determining authenticity? What does the Constitution say? Or the law?

From danamco's link

In the past, questions about Sen. John McCain's legal status have arisen. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone at a U.S. Army hospital. McCain had legal experts vet his constitutional qualifications, and he also disclosed a copy of his birth certificate.

Please note the experts referred to were LEGAL experts, not DOCUMENT experts. Next, they were McCain's experts, not independent experts; McCain had legal experts. So, according to your link, McCain consulted legal experts to examine his citizenship status to see if it met the Constitutional requirement for president. (I've read enough of danamco's posts to assert with confidence that he would never accept similar vetting of Obama.)

The quoted text goes on to say and he also disclosed a copy of his birth certificate. It doesn't say who he disclosed it to; it doesn't say McCain made it public, it doesn't say his birth certificate was examined by document experts and pronounced authentic; it doesn't say that a court gave his BC the official stamp of approval.

Nothing in danamco's link contradicts my claim that McCain never made his birth certificate public.

Answer the questions danamco.

685 posted on 01/10/2010 8:00:22 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: danamco
Because in contrary to McLame’s, we have NOT seen the usurper’s vaulted long form B.C.!

That’s all there is to it, except for that is what you are trying to cover up by telling us we should NOT see it. However, the B.C. is totally irrelevant.

That does not answer the question, “Why is there doubt about Obama’s Hawaiian birth?”

BTW, I have never said that we should not see Obama's vault copy birth certificate. Its that kind of sloppy debate that gives birthers a bad name.

Because of his father, you have now a British/E.U. citizen (probable also an Indonesian citizen) falsely occupying the W.H. by treason!!

First, the Constitution defines treason: Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. "Falsely occupying the W.H.", could be fraud, but it isn't treason.

Second, Obama is not a British citizen (are we at war with England?), he may have had the right to claim British citizenship but there is no evidence that he did. As for Indonesia; by Indonesian law Obama would have been required to renounce his US citizenship to become an Indonesian citizen, and by US law, as a child he couldn't renounce his US citizenship.

Why do you think that McLame needed a Senate resolution to white wash his eligibility?

I don't think he needed a Senate resolution because I have no question about his citizenship.

Had he won the election your dems would have run him out of town for the same reason we want your hero to be run out of town ASAP to save our nation from being destroyed!!!

The Senate resolution affirming McCain's US NBC status was passed unanimously.

Obama is not my hero, nor are the dems mine - more sloppy debate.

You're the guy referring to McCain as McLame.

686 posted on 01/10/2010 8:55:22 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom

“Second, Obama is not a British citizen (are we at war with England?), he may have had the right to claim British citizenship but there is no evidence that he did. As for Indonesia; by Indonesian law Obama would have been required to renounce his US citizenship to become an Indonesian citizen, and by US law, as a child he couldn’t renounce his US citizenship.”
———————————————————————————————Really???

Maybe this will help you out to understand and learn, that as of today YOUR usurper that you put in the W.H. was born a Kenyan/British citizen which he still is today including an E.U. citizen, shall confirm his own words that he is a citizen of the “World” and to throw into his Heinz-57 probably (?) still also an Indonesian citizen!!!

If it is true, please show us the Indonesian law (adoption/immigration (?) that this is not possible???

Here are three (3) little words that may help you out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsX5DzZHkIU&feature=PlayList&p=B278681E23614868&index=0

Additional find a plethora of information that shows your claims are null and void:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsX5DzZHkIU&feature=PlayList&p=B278681E23614868&index=0


687 posted on 01/10/2010 12:46:14 PM PST by danamco
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To: danamco; lucysmom

Sorry second link should be this one:

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/


688 posted on 01/10/2010 12:49:43 PM PST by danamco
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To: lucysmom
Because in contrary to McLame’s, we have NOT seen the usurper’s vaulted long form B.C.!

That’s all there is to it, except for that is what you are trying to cover up by telling us we should NOT see it. However, the B.C. is totally irrelevant.

That does not answer the question, “Why is there doubt about Obama’s Hawaiian birth?”

BTW, I have never said that we should not see Obama's vault copy birth certificate. Its that kind of sloppy debate that gives birthers a bad name.

If the above does NOT answer your question, NOTHING in the world would!

You have certainly, by your continuous spamming posts, done everything possible to make sure that his long form B.C. should NOT be released!!

If you are able to "step-dancing" as good as your keyboard "dancing," you would have done extremely well with the Fred Astaire's dancing group in the name of an "AFTER-BIRTHER," and you know what normally happens to them!!!

689 posted on 01/10/2010 1:13:17 PM PST by danamco
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To: lucysmom
Answer the questions danamco.

Mrs. "tap-dancer," I already have!

You need to get off using these Ambien (Zolpidem) so you can stay awake, because you must be taking something!!

The answer was in RED ink, just check out post # 672 addressed to you, hello. Another of the leaches is not going to be of any help to you either, sorry I meant to say "AFTER-BIRTHER." BTW, You should know as a mother that an "AFTER-BIRTHER" is normally useless after us "BIRTHERS" are seeing the light, OK!!!

But you still have NOT answered mine???

690 posted on 01/10/2010 1:46:38 PM PST by danamco
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To: danamco
f it is true, please show us the Indonesian law (adoption/immigration (?) that this is not possible???

Right Here. Any adoption, and there is no evidence one ever took place, would have occurred after Obama was 5. Citizenship would not have been granted per Article 2, Section 1.

691 posted on 01/10/2010 3:02:21 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: danamco

How is he progressing with his case(s)?


692 posted on 01/10/2010 6:56:38 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: danamco
But you still have the opportunity to answer the question that you are side-stepping???

What question?

693 posted on 01/10/2010 7:00:36 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: danamco
Because in contrary to McLame’s, we have NOT seen the usurper’s vaulted long form B.C.!

If the above does NOT answer your question, NOTHING in the world would!

Have you seen Hillary's long form bc? Bush's? Do you doubt their nbc status?

694 posted on 01/10/2010 7:08:59 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom

“What question?”


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2422146/posts?page=671#671


695 posted on 01/10/2010 8:15:24 PM PST by danamco
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To: mojitojoe

Thanks. Been out of commission for a few weeks. Intermittant net access, too.

parsy, who is trying to make a comeback


696 posted on 01/18/2010 1:43:27 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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