Skip to comments.I Was Banned For Not Tipping
Posted on 01/07/2010 9:51:07 AM PST by big black dog
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I owned a hotel with bars and restaurants and I'd ban you from my place.
Go buy a six pack and drink at home.
>>Do you tip the hardware guy, the grocery store clerk or anyone else who gives good service? No? The reason for that is you know they get paid by their employer so you pay the bill and don’t tip.<<
I have been to Lowes and the help I have gotten has flabbergasted me sometimes. A guy will be busy setting up a display or something and I will ask where an obscure item is. Sometimes he/she will not just tell me where it is. They will walk me to the section and bring me right to the spot, even helping me with what size or quality I might want to consider. No, I don’t slip ‘em a fiver.
Meanwhile, if a waiter or waitress would do just what they are REQUIRED to do - no more and no less - I would be happy.
The real difference is that with the car salesmen, real estate agents, and electronics salesmen there is a solid paper trail with those people and their employer paying into the system the rest of us are forced to pay into. Restaurants and their employees are another story entirely.
That’s a good point....that this really is a service and a way of judging that. I certainly thought of it that way, but understand more now about the rationale for tipping and why it is different from the cashier etc.
The cashier doesn’t serve me, just check me out etc.
Thus, they aren’t quite comparable.
But, it still bothers me we are elevating one group of people over another.
Doesn’t mean I won’t tip though. I always do unless it is just flat terrible service (unfortunately happens more often that it used to since I moved to Texas where everybody leaves to go into the oil field).
Id ban you also.
As the owner in the story noted, tipping is customary.
It's also voluntary.
Owners have the right to run their businesses any way they wish. If a restaurant owner requires every customer to tip, they should post signs saying so..."We will add a 15% gratuity onto bills." Then guests can decide for themselves whether they wish to participate by eating there.
This particular owner has an unseemly sense of entitlement. Thay does not speak well for his establishment or his service.
I tip, and tip well. Nearly always over 20 percent.
That said, it does seem unethical to pay wait staff a mere $3 per hour, and expect customers to make up the difference. Restaurant owners are the jerks, here, not the customers. Tipping should be optional, not required.
I tip. But it would be wonderful if I didn’t have to. If restauranteurs paid their wait staff a fair wage.
>>guy’s obviously never seen “waiting”<<
That movie promised more than it delivered. It made the point though. ;)
Problem is, that stuff can happen whether you tip or not.
There is only one restaurant around here that uses carhops. The girls deliver your food on roller skates, and everybody tips. If you don’t want to tip, you go inside and order at the counter and take it to the table (and there are only 4 indoor tables) yourself. The jobs on rollerskates are prime jobs for high school and college girls. They make good money.
I like your style!
I tip everybody. I even tip the drivers of the Goodwill truck when they come to pick up my donations.
I carry a roll of fives around just to tip with. I give a $5 tip on a $10 haircut.
I’m surprised to learn on this thread that so many FReepers are cheap bastards.
The difference is that you have a much more personal relationship with the server than you have, say, with the clerk at the local supermarket or drugstore.
Having worked in a restaurant, I can tell you that it’s not easy to get the food out hot and on time, and it’s very easy to fudge a customer’s order. There’s a lot of pressure and sometimes you have to beg the chef to get your order out promptly. Depends on where you work.
If you get good service, tip well (because tips are shared and everybody, not only the server, benefits). If you don’t, don’t tip but make it clear why you didn’t. This may not be the fault of the server, but letting management know about this will also put pressure on the other people in the chain (ranging from the chef to the busboy).
My first "real" job after my parents sold our restaurant (where I preped, cooked, washed dishes, bussed, and waited from age 12-16) was at Sonic. Most folks gave me the change rounded up to the next dollar.
That was in 1978 though...
Fair point. They aren’t really equivalent positons. Still, they work very hard for little pay.
Lew Rockwell, libertarians and even anarchists know a cheapskate when they see one.
“Of course if we crank their wages up then they lose a reason for good service.”
it’s up to the owner to fire them for non performance!
It’s like when I was hiring help and needed 3 men I would hire 5 and fire 3 at the end of the day and hire 3 and fire 2 at the end of the next day, the ones remaining got the message to produce or look for another job!
I don’t owe anyone a job, my only reason for being in business is profit and the workers are no more than production and a pay check at the end of the week.
LOL! Me too. A personal service should be rewarded. People can make or break your day by something like being surly about picking up your Goodwill stuff. If they're good, thank them!
In an unrelated matter, Here's a link to a story about an employer - Robert Kahre - who designed a novel way of paying his employees so as to help them keep from filing a return.
Same problem here in West Texas....oil country. Waiters are constantly leaving to go into the oil fields and service is terrible.
But, I normally tip a little unless it is just bad.
That said, the other day I had the best waitress ever. She refilled my drinks to the point that it came before I even had to ask her, she constantly checked on my wife and I, the food was hot and she even asked how it tasted before leaving etc...just great.
She got a good 30 percent tip, very very high for us....
If I was in a job that made enough to do so, I would have given her even more.
I'm surprised he has any friends...
Here's an idea. Why don't we throw out our Charlie Foxtrot of a tax code, and come up with something that doesn't require people to jump through hoops, spend lots of time and money just to comply, and gets everyone, including those in the underground economy that NEVER PAY ANY TAXES!
ewwww is right! Tightwad in the extreme. Didn’t even eat and leave, but stayed for FOUR hours. Four hours of taking up a table and keeping the waitress from getting tips from other people.
Although, I’d get po’d too if someone altered my cc slip. Have to agree with him on that.
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