Skip to comments.I Was Banned For Not Tipping
Posted on 01/07/2010 9:51:07 AM PST by big black dog
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I know some Black Servers who hate having their tables filled with that group that doesn’t tip.
But he didn't lose a paying customer, so he actually gained. That's just smart business. I'll lay you 6 to 1 odds that his "friends" at the bar thought he was a loser, too.
At approximately 12:50am, on Sunday the 1st of February 2009, Free State Project member Mike Barskey was pulled over by Amherst, New Hampshire police after apparently catching the eye of the arresting officer when passing or being passed by another car. The officer followed Mike for a few minutes and ran his California plates finding that he had bench warrant for his arrest due to not showing up to a court hearing. The officer allowed Mike to drive his car to a nearby business parking lot so it wouldnt have to be towed and then took Mike to the police station. After looking into the matter more the officers realized Mike has a cash bail of $2000 and that his registration is expired therefore tacking on some amount for that.
Mike refused to have his fingerprints taken and was told that that when he is brought to Valley Street jail in Manchester that they would take them. He mentions in his Porc411 messages that he is refusing or planned to refuse to answer some or all of the questions they were asking of him and he wasnt planning on paying the cash bail.
Dalebert reports that Mike Barskeys court date has been set to March 12th, 2009. Since hes unwilling to pay his $2040 bail or complete two parts of the processing he will be kept in jail till his court date.
Mike Barskey has 6 charges against him according to Kat Kanning: speeding, open container, gun with no concealed carry license, not showing up for court and two others now forgotten. Worse case for the concealed carry charge is 1 year in jail + fines.
>The writers waitress/waiter is taxed on an estimated 10-20% of her/his checks whether she/he receives it, or not.<
Not only that, but in some eateries waitstaff must “tip out” the busboy, hostess and bartender.
When a customer stiffs the waitress in this type place, she actually ends up paying for the privilege of having to wait on the cheap slob.
>I cant believe how many FReepers are in favor of tipping:<
It’s culturally correct to do so in this country. You know the saying, “When in Rome”?
>Never tip anyone, ever. Its bad form.<
Do that in a US restaurant once and you’ll get away with it. Do it repeatedly at the same place and don’t be surprised if you ingest a steak someone dropped on the floor then put it back on the plate, or worse.
Been some pretty good guesses by a few people, I guess Church groups.
Not to offend (I am Christian), but just that was what I have heard before.
“He asked me why I don’t tip waiters that earn $3.00 per hour...”
They really only make $3/hour ? I figured it wasn’t much but still more than that. Talk about relying on the kindness of strangers...
In the immortal words of Calvin Coolidge; you lose. My 'circle' includes women who have waited tables in New England tourist traps...
One of the “problems” with church groups is that they usually don’t drink and often they don’t even order much, so their bill is low. But all groups tend to be bad - everybody thinks that the tip is somebody else’s responsibility, and a lot of times they are ordering a set menu anyway and don’t have as much personal interaction with the server. That’s why most restaurants put a surcharge for the tip on the bill for a party.
There’s nothing like hustling your posterior off to get 15 meals out at the same time, hot and correct, and then find $2 on the table (from the one generous member of the party who even thought to tip!)
Yes, it’s a problem. I once saw an excellent article in a business magazine directed at women (who also tend not to tip) telling them that now that they were not just watching the family budget but were responsible for the corporate image, being cheap was not a virtue.
The article pointed out that you wanted your clients or whoever you were taking to this business lunch to have a pleasant time, not see your company as nervous and poor, and not see you as somebody who thinks so small that “saving” a few dollars on a tip was a point of pride. If you go to a place regularly, of course, which most businesses do, you have to be particularly careful to maintain a good relationship with the staff.
The article pointed out that many women (this was a few years ago) were new to positions of responsibility and hadn’t readjusted their social behavior yet. I think this may apply to all of the groups who are stingy tippers and difficult restaurant clients.
Several years ago, right during the Invasion of Iraq, my wife and I were dining at very upscale restaurant in Atlanta. Our waiter happened to be an mature Iranian immigrant, who fled Iran after the Shah was deposed. The subject of Iraq came up, and some other political questions and it became apparent that he was a very conservative guy. And I commented to him that I presumed that to be unusual. I was always under the impression that restaurants were a traditional bastion of liberalism. He surprised me even further by saying virtually all the wait staff were Republicans - remember, it's an upscale restaurant - but, most of the kitchen staff were liberal, to especially include the chef de cuisine.
I have often wondered if that's typical in restaurants that tend to employee the mature, professional waiter, and not just the "kids" working themselves through college or waiting for their big "breaks".
Whew.. It’s a little scary that creeps like the author of this piece are out there.
I don’t have any sympathy for a non-tipper. A large part of my salary is also based on tips and I frown down on people who do not tip. Sorry, but just as much as you have a right to be cheap, the establishment has a right to ban you.
Tipping reinforces the servant/master relationship, in many ways. Its one thing to pay a fair price for something, and quite another to pay for servitude which is something that our settlers left back in England.
That's how it was explained to me in the first English pub I went to. Of course I left a tip - stiffing the waitstaff is about the worst thing you can do in an American bar - and they insisted on giving it back and told me (politely as ever - those English!) that tips were for servants. It is fine to buy the barkeep a drink, though, and if he chooses to drink it later, that's his own business.
That was at the beginning of my trip, down in Salisbury. I finished up in London, and THOSE bartenders had long since gotten over the shame of accepting a tip.
B S they need to pay all taxes
Husband, kids and I went to the Texas Roadhouse the other night. Had a group of young “Amish” sitting right next to us. They left before us. When husband and kids were at the restroom, the waiter came up to me to let me know that we left more of a tip for our $30+ meal than that group did for their $100+ meal.
While I do think not tipping ever is poor taste, I don’t think tipping should ever be mandatory.
This is towards everyone else
I remember back in older days when, (prepare to have your mind blown) tips were given as courtesy towards good service (KABLOOOOOM!!!)
Now a days, I hate going to restaurants because all these entitled cry babies scream and shout if you don’t tip them regardless of the service quality. Tips are customary, yes but it’s also the freedom of choice for a costumer to decide wither or not to tip. Not every patron can afford tips. What if this was the one day they could save enough money to eat out? Not everyone who eats at a restaurant has infinite income to throw around. In the good old days, waiters/waitresses worked at diners knowing what to expect. They expected to get their pay checks and if by chance they were attentive enough, a few tips too.
I know people ‘should’ tip waiters when they give good service. But it’s never appropriate for the waiters to expect it or even take it if they don’t receive it.
Like he said, if you don’t like your wages then get a better job, don’t whine to the customers who just want to eat a meal that your life is hard and your a charity case.
People go to restaurants to eat food. Not to be pampered by the staff. The good service should be a business strategy. Treat your customers good and word of mouth/reviews will get you more customers/revenue. Treat them bad because they don’t tip good and word of mouth/reviews will criticize your establishment and fewer people will want to eat there.
I usually tip every time. But when the receipt includes a predetermined tip to the bill, I tip nothing, because that’s just rude to demand your customers to tip. The waiters are being paid to service the customers. The customers shouldn’t pay to not be insulted.
That would be black people
But they are not the only minority doesn’t tip well
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