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After Another Church-Less Christmas, Coalition Asks: Is Obama a Christian Fraud?
lifesitenews ^ | Jan 6, 2010 | Kathleen Gilbert

Posted on 01/07/2010 4:18:59 PM PST by opentalk

WASHINGTON, D.C., January 6, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The increasingly notorious lack of church involvement or public religious observance by the United State's First Family has led one Christian organization to question the level of dedication President Obama truly feels to the religious identity that once lent such appeal to his campaign image.

After attending church regularly during the 2008 Presidential campaign, Obama has not attended church on a regular basis since being elected President and has yet to find a church home. Obama, while vacationing in Hawaii over Christmastime, failed to attend any religious services with his family; neither did he attend during Christmas in 2008 as president-elect.

Yet as a candidate, Obama made his Christian faith and involvement in a local church community a central component of his campaign - an image widely believed to have attracted key votes that would otherwise have opposed his liberal policies. Several Christian pastors, such as Houston megachurch pastor Kirbyjon Caldwell, helped bolster the campaign talking point that Obama's social policies hewed closer to Christian doctrine than his critics allowed.

Douglas Kmiec, the Pepperdine University law professor who drew immense criticism from Catholic circles for actively campaigning on Obama's behalf, had argued that his trust in the pro-abortion candidate stemmed from his apparent commitment to Christianity.

"When, in a meeting of faith leaders in Chicago, Obama told me that his community work years before, helping the displaced and the unemployed, left him empty until he knelt before the Cross, I believed him," wrote Kmiec in a January 2009 Commonweal op-ed defending against his critics. "No politics or philosophy or relationship is launched well when faith is missing; and I did not (and do not) doubt the genuineness of Obama’s Christian faith commitment."

Since his election, Christian watchdogs have grown increasingly agitated by the apparent lack of, and even disregard for, Christian sensitivities in the White House. Some examples include:

-Per White House request, Georgetown University in April covered up a white cross and a symbol for the name of Jesus that would have appeared over Obama's head at a speech.

- The President declined publicly to celebrate the National Day of Prayer at the White House - yet hosted a large bash for Gay and Lesbian Pride Month in June, and recognized the Islamic holy month of Ramadan at the White House.

- While matter-of-factly noting that George Washington recognized Thanksgiving as celebrating "the many and signal favors of Almighty God," Obama's Thanksgiving proclamation was the first in U.S. history to exhort celebration of the holiday without actually acknowledging the existence of God or Divine Providence.

- For the first time in 43 years, the Obama Administration banned a military flyover at a "God and Country Rally" in Nampa, Idaho.

- On a White House Christmas tree, the President asked that no religious ornaments be displayed - yet, ironically, reportedly allowed an ornament displaying the image of Chinese dictator and mass murderer Mao Tse Tung.

"The issue is not whether a President has to attend church on a regular basis to be an effective President. They do not," commented Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney, Director of the Washington, D.C. based Christian Defense Coalition. "The issue is one of integrity and honesty.

"To portray yourself as person of deep Christian faith and very involved in the life of the local church during the campaign and then abandon that position after you are elected reduces faith to a commodity and religion to a political tool."

Mahoney noted that the White House admits that President Obama and his family have not settled in one church community in Washington, D.C. because they want to avoid becoming a "disruptive factor for the local church."

"This is a completely disingenuous and misleading argument," said Mahoney. "The overwhelming majority of churches in the Washington would love to have the President and his family attend their church and would welcome them with open arms.

"Simply stated; Mr. President if your Christian faith and involvement with a local church means as much to you as you say it does please find a vibrant local community for you and your family to worship Christ."


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhochristmas; christian; fraud; husseinobama; jesus; obama; obamaandgod; politics

1 posted on 01/07/2010 4:19:01 PM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

DUHHHH!!! He’s a friggin Muslim you idiots and probably a Kenyan to boot!!! Why do you think the Muzzie killers are getting Mirandized and coddled? Wake up for God’s sake


2 posted on 01/07/2010 4:20:57 PM PST by dumpthelibs (dumpthelibs)
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To: opentalk
This article is a joke, right?

Can this guy's actions speak any LOUDER?

3 posted on 01/07/2010 4:22:06 PM PST by elk
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To: opentalk

Muslims hate Christmas

“We don’t give them Christmas gifts, we don’t want to spoil them.” B.Hussein Obama (Known Liar)
campaign trail interview 2008


4 posted on 01/07/2010 4:23:22 PM PST by TheConservativeParty (RINO-B-GONE Stock up on it now.)
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To: opentalk

I do not believe that these dumba**es actually thought Obama was a Christian. LOL!!


5 posted on 01/07/2010 4:24:00 PM PST by Wage Slave (Good fences make good neighbors. -- Robert Frost)
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To: opentalk
How stupid and clueless can you get?? BO talked about his "muslim faith."

No wonder this nation is going down the toilet.

6 posted on 01/07/2010 4:25:30 PM PST by truthkeeper ("Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?")
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To: opentalk

As long as he prays five times a day toward the east, he will satisfy his real religious obligation. The prophet of the moon god says its okay to lie about everything else.


7 posted on 01/07/2010 4:26:44 PM PST by scotiamor
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To: opentalk

I thought the Reverend Wright episode clarified that one. It did for me.


8 posted on 01/07/2010 4:28:56 PM PST by marron
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To: dumpthelibs

I always thought his ‘Sermon” at Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church was the Turning of the Tide, that gave him the thumbs up of a lot of Christians.


9 posted on 01/07/2010 4:29:03 PM PST by rovenstinez (All)
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To: opentalk

YOU CANT FIX STUPID


10 posted on 01/07/2010 4:30:58 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: opentalk

Yes.

He uses Christianity as a ruse to disguise his true religious beliefs, or lack of them.


11 posted on 01/07/2010 4:31:13 PM PST by cranked
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To: opentalk

Is he Christian?

They even HAVE to ask this about the most pro-abortion politician we’ve had?????


12 posted on 01/07/2010 4:31:52 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: opentalk
He put on Christianity during the campaign when he needed to.

And discarded it after the election, when it was no longer necessary.

He is a complete and utter fraud.

13 posted on 01/07/2010 4:32:20 PM PST by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: opentalk

DUH!!!

Can someone post the picture with the bear CR@PPING in the woods?


14 posted on 01/07/2010 4:35:51 PM PST by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go Home!)
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To: MAexile

Same as the C-span health care promise, bait and switch campaign. Fraud


15 posted on 01/07/2010 4:37:13 PM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Jeremiah Wright could maybe take a preaching job in D.C. Obama would attend there.

The article is misleading. It talks about two preachers who backed Obama during his campaign, and sort of implies that they’ve changed their minds since then. But it doesn’t come out and say that.

And I don’t think they have changed their minds, because socialism is a part of their world view. Caldwell’s church prides itself on being able to form tax-exempt organizations receiving government financing, ostensibly for community service. (Reminds me of a line in a W.C. Fields movie. His daughter chides him for conning people, and he says, “I’m like Robin Hood, taking from the rich and giving to the poor.” “What poor?” she asks. “Us poor,” he answers.) And they give classes on how to emulate them and take advantage of that free government money.


16 posted on 01/07/2010 4:37:34 PM PST by Rocky (Obama's ego: The "I's" have it.)
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To: opentalk
I don't know if he is a Muslim. I doubt it. But he isn't a Christian. One can be all sorts of things and be a Christian. A monarchist, a republican, a liberal...it is a huge tent. But one thing is prohibited. And Obama's church was dead set against Galatians 3:28. That verse, paring away everything else is what determines who can call themselves a Christian and who cannot.

Obama is not a Christian

17 posted on 01/07/2010 4:38:45 PM PST by Brugmansian
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To: opentalk
I seriously doubt that Hussein is a "secret" moslem today.And one needn't be a rocket scientist to understand that he's no Christian.My money's on...atheist.

A secret one,or course.

18 posted on 01/07/2010 4:39:32 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: ExTxMarine
Here ya go


19 posted on 01/07/2010 4:43:38 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: MAexile

He will probably start going to church again sometime in 2012.


20 posted on 01/07/2010 4:45:48 PM PST by arthurus ("If you don't believI really hate to in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Brugmansian

If he is not Mohammedan he certainly sympathizes with them.


21 posted on 01/07/2010 4:47:05 PM PST by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Brugmansian

If he is not Mohammedan he certainly sympathizes with them.


22 posted on 01/07/2010 4:47:19 PM PST by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: opentalk

Ping for later


23 posted on 01/07/2010 4:48:35 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Gay State Conservative

If Zero is a Marxist, he is then indeed an athiest. And not the kind like Krauthammer, who denies God for intellectual reasons (and yet sides with Christian pro-lifers for common ethical reasons - there’s hope for Charles). More like the kind that shakes an angry fist toward heaven, shouting “No, God!”.


24 posted on 01/07/2010 4:50:37 PM PST by Fred Hayek (From this point forward the Democratic Party will be referred to as the Communist Party)
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To: opentalk

Hussain is a Christian the same way Joe Stalin was a Christian.


25 posted on 01/07/2010 4:50:51 PM PST by YankeeReb (Pray for 0bama Psalm 109:8 ; May his days be short. May another take his office.)
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To: opentalk

Obamao is a fraud. There’s not much point in qualifying that with “Christian.” No real Christian is going to spend any time in a liberation church. Liberation theology, or Marxism dressed up as religion, is at odds with the teachings of Christ. I doubt that Obamao is a Muslim, other than to the extent that it might give him a little street credit with the militant brothers and his family. He is too Marxist and too narcissistic to lower himself to God. He saves that for foreign dignitaries and opportunities to belittle the US. ...My guess is that the spirits or spirits dwelling in Obamao aren’t comfortable in the presence of genuine Christians.


26 posted on 01/07/2010 4:52:03 PM PST by pallis
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To: ExTxMarine

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Remove the space between the < and img and the picture will post for you. Click preview to check, if okay hit post.


27 posted on 01/07/2010 4:53:36 PM PST by deport (54 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: Fred Hayek

like Soros


28 posted on 01/07/2010 4:54:39 PM PST by opentalk
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To: arthurus
If he is not Mohammedan he certainly sympathizes with them.

He said Islam paved the way for the Renaissance and the Enligtenment. The Freak really said that. He is either evil or the most ignorant person (and this is saying a lot) that ever got near the oval office.

29 posted on 01/07/2010 4:54:55 PM PST by Brugmansian
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To: dumpthelibs
Everything about this idiot is fraudulent. I wouldn't even trust him when he says his name is Berry Hussein Obama.
30 posted on 01/07/2010 5:04:30 PM PST by peeps36 (Democrats Don't Need No Stinking Input From You Little People)
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To: dumpthelibs
I believe Obama is an atheist who is sympathetic towards Islam because he (Obama) hates the United States, too.
31 posted on 01/07/2010 5:06:50 PM PST by utahagen
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To: opentalk

Was “Hussein” a common American Christian name in Hawaii in 1961? Just askin...


32 posted on 01/07/2010 5:26:10 PM PST by VoiceOfBruck (Was "Hussein" a common American Christian name in Hawaii in 1961? Just askin...)
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To: opentalk

The man was exposed to Islam at an early age. I can find no such exposure to the Christian faith when he returned to the USA. I believe that his church going in Chicago was for political reasons. The type of minister of the church and what the minister preached tells wonders about this President. So why should anyone be surprised about a lack of Christian content at the White House during the Christmas Season.


33 posted on 01/07/2010 5:36:29 PM PST by Destroyer Sailor
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To: ExTxMarine

34 posted on 01/07/2010 5:44:07 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: opentalk

But seriously folks, the kenyan’s not a Christian as far as I can tell, but fortunately it’s not my call who’s in or out of the Lamb’s book of life.

Here’s Bruck’s take: Zero’s probably not a Christian, and probably not a Muslim either; more likely he’s a typical post-modern self-worshipper. This is why the Gen-Xers and younger voted for him in droves—he’s one of them.

As for his erstwhile allusions to Christianity, keep in mind there are a great many young people who claim Christ, but due to their secular education and upbringing are liberal humanists, and really, really want to vote dem. All they need is the finest sliver of evidence that their candidate is a Christian, or at least in some way upholds Christian values, to justify themselves among their Christian friends and families. Zero happily provided this scant evidence, knowing that that’s all they needed.


35 posted on 01/07/2010 5:45:35 PM PST by VoiceOfBruck (Was "Hussein" a common American Christian name in Hawaii in 1961? Just askin...)
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To: opentalk

Where’s the Baptismal Certificate?


36 posted on 01/07/2010 5:48:57 PM PST by bigoil
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Go to The Obama File http://www.theobamafile.com/index.htm
by our own FReeper, Beckwith.
Read the sections, ‘Religion’ and ‘Islam’.
The evidence is overwhelming.

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37 posted on 01/07/2010 6:27:00 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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