I only want to ensure that no one descends from them.
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
Posted on 01/09/2010 7:56:47 PM PST by Shellybenoit
Every Friday night observant Jews bless their sons by saying, "may you be like Manasseh and Ephraim," the two sons of the biblical Joseph, who were the first Jews, born outside of the Holy Land. The blessing expresses the hope that, just like Joseph's sons, today's Jewish sons will hold fast to their religion despite the fact they live in the diaspora.
Manasseh and Ephraim are two of the famous lost ten tribes, who were carted away into exile more than 2,500 years ago. Descendants of the tribe of Manasseh have been found living in India, and many of them are moving to Israel.
As far as Ephraim, many people believe that their descendants are now fighting against the United States in Afghanistan,and are now called the Taliban.
(Excerpt) Read more at yidwithlid.blogspot.com ...
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Jews are decended from Judah, Joseph's brother.
Joseph's decendents are not "Jews", the whole family are Hebrew.
They’re second generation vertebrates.
Taliban may have origin in ancient tribe of Israel-
Anthropologist finds many similarities
Frank Viviano, Chronicle Staff Writer
Saturday, October 20, 2001
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/10/20/MN.DTL
(10-20) 04:00 PST Jerusalem — Preoccupied with their own terrorist war at home, Israelis have paid less attention than the rest of the world to the campaign against Afghanistan’s ruling Taliban.
Just as well, says an Israeli anthropologist — because the Taliban might have had Jewish origins.
According to Shalva Weil, there is considerable body of evidence suggesting that the Pathan ethnic group, from which most of the Taliban are drawn, is one of the fabled “10 lost tribes” of ancient Israel. Indeed, as recently as half a century ago, Pathan tribesmen themselves claimed that they were descended from wandering Jews.
Writing in the weekly magazine “Jerusalem Report,” Weil cites a report delivered to Israeli President Yitzhak Ben-Zvi in the 1950s, based on the encounter of a Jewish traveler with Pathan nomads.
The Pathans, who are also called Pashtuns, were said to wear cloaks decorated with a symbol that closely resembled the lamps lit by Jews at Hanukkah. The traveler also reported that they donned prayer shawls similar to those of their Jewish counterparts in the West, insisted that men grow side curls, and lit votive candles on Friday evenings, the beginning of the Jewish Sabbath.
Some anthropologists have also found Pathan families that circumcise sons on the eighth day after their birth, in keeping with Jewish custom.
A legend of the Pathans, as recounted to Weil when she did field research among them in the 1980s along the Pakistani border, tells of a “Jeremiah,” a son of King Saul — but not the more familiar Jeremiah of the Old Testament — who sired a daughter named “Afghana.” Her descendants, the legend maintains, made their way to the Central Asian land that now bears her name.
A Jewish connection of more recent and well-documented origin leads just across Afghanistan’s western frontier to the Iranian city of Mashhad. It is the traditional home of the “Mashhadi Jews,” who were forcibly converted to Shiite Islam after a pogrom in 1839.
Like some of their distant Sephardic cousins in Islamic Spain, the Mashhadi Jews behaved in public as faithful Muslims — even making the pilgrimage to Mecca when they could afford it — but clung secretly to Judaism at home.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/10/20/MN.DTL#ixzz0cBBfHlOB
They and the Mormons are Maccabees.
I don’t doubt your version and it is entirely plausible. I just don’t want to give them any credit.
I would like to create a dilemma for them and give them a free ham. NO strings. a gift.
No that’s a dilemma.
BTW, most Arabic speaking Moslems will tell you their ancestors were most likely Jews.
The Three Stooges were all Jewish. :)
Then, let them fesst.
I only want to ensure that no one descends from them.
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From http://www.hujra.net/index.php?topic=4771.0;wap2
pathaniprincess:
Are we the lost tribe of israel???
What do all of yous think on this?
I want to know because, if you type pashtun in say.... google...it will have somewhere during the page telling you about how we are close to the jews?
is this right and if so please explain?
Taseer Khan:
Who are the Pathans? They are also called Afghans or Pishtus after their language. They identify themselves with their former name ‘sons of Israel’, even though nowadays they live as Muslims. In Afghanistan they are said to number six to seven million, and in Pakistan seven to eight million. Two million of them live as beduins. Outwardly, the Pathans are similar to the Jews
From their ancient customs, one can point to a connection between the Pathans and the Jewish people. They make up about half of the population of Afghanistan, in the region called Pushtunistan, on the eastern border of Afghanistan. Over ninety per cent of the inhabitants are Sunni Muslims. Later modernisation has penetrated into this State, and even less in the hilly areas near the border. In these places, the Pathans continue to live in the tribal framework as their fathers and forefathers did. The legal system operates according to the Pashtunwali,” the Pashtun Laws, parts of which are similar to the laws of the Torah
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Taseer Khan:
The Pathans are known for their physical strength. They are tall, light-coloured and handsome, good soldiers and for the most part bear arms from a young age. They are diligent and intelligent, faithful to an exemplary degree and are known in the world as outstanding hosts.
What is the Ethnic Origin of the Panthim?
The Panthim are not similar in their outward appearance or in their character to any of the ethnic groups which populate this environment: the Indian group-Iranians, Mongolians, Turks or Persians. Most of the researchers are of the opinion that the origin of the Pathans is indeed Israeli. The aliyah to Israel of Afghanistan Jews and the volume of evidence heard from them on this subject about the customs of the Pathans corroborate this idea
RELATIONSHIP TO THE TRIBES OF ISRAEL
There is interesting evidence about the preservation among the tribes of family trees on their origin, and on their relationship to the fathers of the Israeli people. These family trees are well preserved. Some of them are penned in golden lettering on deerskin. The names of the tribes speak for themselves: the tribe of Harabni (in the Afghan tongue) is the tribe of Reuben, the shinwari is Shimeon, the Levani - Levi, Daftani - Naftali, Jaji - Gad, Ashuri - Asher, Yusuf Su, sons of Josef, Afridi - Ephraim, and so on.
The former monarchy in Afghanistan has a widely-spread tradition according to which their origin was from the tribe of Benjamin and the family of King Saul. According to this tradition, Saul had a son called Jeremia and he in turn had a son called Afghana. Jeremia died at about the same time as Saul and the son Afghana was raised by King David and remained in the royal palace during the reign of Solomon too. About 400 years later, in the days of Nebuchadnezer, the Afghana family fled to the Gur region (Jat in our times). This is in central Afghanistan and here the family settled down and traded with the people of the area. In the year 622, with the appearance of Islam, Muhammed sent Khaled ibn Waleed to the ‘sons of Ishrail’ to spread the word of Islam among the Afghanistan tribes. He succeeded in his mission, returned to Muhammed with seven representatives of the residents of Afghanistan and with 76 supporters. The leader of these people was ‘Kish’ (the name of the father of Solomon). According to the tradition, the emissaries succeeded in their assignment and Muhammed praised them for this.
THE PLACE OF THE ASSYRIAN EXILE
According to the Bible (the second Book of Kings, Chronicles 1 and 2), the ten tribes were exiled to Halah and Havor and the river Gozan and to the cities of Maday. According to the tradition of the Jews of Afghanistan, the river gozan is ‘rod jichan’ (river in Persian is rod), one of the tributaries of the Emo-daria, which descends in the vicinity of the town of Maimane. The city of Havor is, they say, peh-Shauor (Pash-Havor’) which means ‘Over Havor’ in Afghanistan, and today serves as the centre of the Pathans on the Pakistan that the whole area populated the ancient Assyrian Exile. There are researchers who claim that all the Jews living in southern U.S.S.R. along the Emor-daria’ are the descendants of the ten tribes - the Bucharins, Georgians, etc. As we know, a group of ‘’B’nei Yisrael’ some of whom settled in Israel, is also found in India and Afghanistan. The existence of the Pathan tribes is therefore in the heart of the area in which the ten tribes are found.
Cont,
Taseer Khan:
THE SIMILARITY OF THE PATHANS TO THE JEWS
The British, who ruled Afghanistan for a long time, found it difficult to distinguish between the Pathans and the Jews, and called the Pathans ‘Juz’ - Jews. The Jews, too found it hard to distinguish between themselves and the Pathans when the latter are not wearing traditional dress. Afghanistan has about 21 peoples and languages and only the Pathans, apart from the Jews, look clearly Semitic; their countenance is lighter than that of other peoples and their nose is long. Some of them also have blue eyes. Since most of them grow beards and sidelocks like Jews, this also adds difficulty to an attempt to distinguish between them and the Jews
JEWISH CUSTOMS
Even though the Pathans accepted Islam voluntarily and forcibly, they maintain Jewish customs preserved from the recesses of their past. The book contains considerable evidence taken from Jews of Afghanistan who lived in the neighbourhoods of the Pathans and had contact with them. The evidence doesn’t relate to all the Pathans or to all the tribes and places. However, it does prove the existence of Jewish customs among the Pathans. The research on this subject still requires completion, both quantitative and qualitative. Let us note the customs in headline form only: sidelock, circumcision within eight days, a Talith (prayer shawl) and four fringes (Tsitsit), a Jewish wedding (Hupah and ring), women’s customs (immersion in a river or spring), levirate marriage (Yibum), honouring the father, forbidden foods (horse and camel food), refraining from cooking meat and milk, a tradition of clean and unclean poultry, the Shabbat (preparation of 12 Hallah loaves, refraining from work), lighting a candle in honour of the Shabbat, the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) prayer (some of them pray turned in the direction of Jerusalem), blood on the threshold and on the two Mezzuzot (in times of plague or trouble), a scapegoat, curing the ill with the help of the Book of Psalms (placing the Book under the patient’s head), a Hebrew amulet (Kamia), Hebrew names (also. for neighbourhoods and villages), Holy Books (they especially honour ‘the Law of Sharif’ which is the Law of Moses), and rising when the name of Moshe is mentioned.
As for the Pathan law, they have laws similar to the Jewish law. The Magen David symbol is found in almost every Pathan house on an island in the Pehshauor district. The rich make it of expensive metals, the poor from simple wood. The Magen David can be seen on the towers of schools and on tools and ornaments.
ARCHAEOLOGICAL AND OTHER EVIDENCE
Apart from synagogues, Sifrei Torah, Hebrew placenames and tribal family trees, there also exists evidence on important archeological finds: near the town of Herat in Tchcharan, old graves were found on which the writing was in Persian and in the Hebrew language. The graves date from the 11th to the 13th centuries. In an opposite fashion, so it seems, there are a number of inscriptions engraved on rocks in ancient Hebrew script near the town of Netchaset.
In the ‘Dar el amman’ museum in Kabul, the capital of Afghanistan, there is a black stone found in Kandahar, on which is written in Hebrew.
It would be appropriate to end this article with one of the pieces of evidence. Mr Chiya Zorov of Tel Aviv notes: When the Bolsheviks rose to power in Russia, they divided the large area of the southern part of central Russia into smaller districts such as Tanjekistan, Turkemanistan, Kazchastan, etc. In Tanjekistan, which is in northern Afghanistan, there was a village by the name of Dushme. When Stalin gained power, he called the village in his name, Stalinabad. It started to develop and grow and many Jews then began to stream into Tangekistan. They found that the Tanyakis light candles on Friday evening. When the Jews went to visit them, they revealed that they eat a dish made of meat stuffed with rice called Pacha, which is characteristic of the Bucharian Jews and is eaten on Friday night. When they asked them what it was, the Tajiks replied that this is an ancient traditional food of theirs and its name is Pacha. They also said that they have a tradition that they were once Jews
You know those ten tribes had to go somewhere....
” They know. The Pashtun tribes, they know.”
I first read of this in one of Grant Jeffrey’s books a number of years ago. He stated the same as your quote.
The Pashtuns acknowledge that they are descended from Israelites.
http://www.amazon.com/Grant-R.-Jeffrey/e/B000APP9Z6/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_1
How about they are just the Sons of Cain.
If true, and there are substantial reasons for thinking it is true, then the real issue is the God of Israel.
He is not the god of islam.
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