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Let’s not Forget: Bill Clinton was the first “Birther”
The PostEmail ^ | Jan. 11, 2010 | John Charlton

Posted on 01/11/2010 6:46:55 AM PST by opentalk

ON GOOD MORNING AMERICA, AUGUST 4TH, 2008, QUESTIONED OBAMA'S ELIGIBILITY

Let's not forget that the first "Birther" of note, was Bill Clinton. "Birther" is the derogatory appellation used by Obama supporters to ridicule those who ask why Obama won't show his birth certificate.

Late last night, The Post & Email published the results of recent investigation of the issue, by a citizen journalist, which explain that the Hawaii Department of Health knows Obama's alleged birth certificate (displayed on the Internet as an electronic image of a Certification of Live Birth) is a forgery.

In this context, it should be noted that Bill Clinton was apparently aware of the forgery as early as Obama's birthday in 2008.

He made these comments on Good Morning America. You can view the video here.

The comment was mentioned by the Associated Press, in an unsigned report filed the same day: "I never was mad at Sen. Obama," the former president said. "I think everybody's got a right to run for president who qualifies under the Constitution. And I'd be the last person to begrudge anybody their ambition."

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Gardening; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; birthers; certifigate; clinton; constitution; eligibility; obama
interesting video
1 posted on 01/11/2010 6:46:57 AM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

God’s gift to the Repub party = Bill Clinton


2 posted on 01/11/2010 6:50:55 AM PST by matginzac
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To: opentalk

Imagine if the media went after 0bama the way they went after Palin? One can dream.


3 posted on 01/11/2010 6:52:59 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: opentalk

Comment is at 44 sec. in video.


4 posted on 01/11/2010 6:57:19 AM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


5 posted on 01/11/2010 6:58:47 AM PST by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: Dryman

More important to me is obamas college records. Did he attend classes? What were his grades? What was the subjects of his thesis papers? Who associated with him? Why is the press not demanding these records be made public???? Why???? Calling Fox news!!!!


6 posted on 01/11/2010 7:14:38 AM PST by refermech
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To: refermech

and the answer to the question of why the Clintons and others did not pursue the truth?..........because rattlesnakes do not bite each other. In the rare instance that they might, it is not lethal.


7 posted on 01/11/2010 7:27:23 AM PST by linton59 (. bitter,typical,gun-toting,Bible thumping, indigenous, disinfranchised, 1 of the chattering classes)
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To: opentalk; LdSentinal; WilliamReading; calex59; musicman

Bttt - This is the email I sent out to all my lists last August:

Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:02:46 -0400
From:Matchett-PI
Subject: Obama Sued by Hillary supporter (Constitutionally Ineligible for the Presidency)

Hee hee hee ... now the FUN begins in earnest! http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h124/Roscoe_Karns/hill-swim.jpg

First, a couple of comments:

I posted this before earlier in the month.

In the ABC August 4th Bill Clinton interview, Bill has a VERY peculiar quote:

In an interview that aired on ABC’s World News Tonight Bill Clinton denied that he is angry at Barack Obama, but offered very little in terms of an endorsement and enthusiasm for the Democratic nominee.

Clinton denied that he is still angry, “I’m not, and I never was mad at Senator Obama. I think everybody’s got a right to run for president if he qualifies under the Constitution...

IMHO, it just seems “strange” Bill would say “...IF HE QUALIFIES UNDER THE CONSTITUTION” when being questioned about his support for the Obamassiah.

18 posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:08:39 PM by musicman

A Hillary supporter.

Hillary supporter or not, everything he claims is true. Obama did fake his birth certificate, he was adopted and made an Indonesian citizen, and there is evidence that his adopted father renounced Barry’s USA citizenship.(Even if he didn’t a dual citizenship makes him ineligible to hold the office of President). Lying about his birth certificate and legal name also disqualifies him.

All the charges are verifiable except the one about being born in Kenya (who knows he may have proof of that also) and all of the charges disqualify him.

He is correct in saying the Republican party would have brought this all out after the nomination, which would be to our benefit because it would make it that much harder to replace the lying scum bag. Now, if this guy is able to pull it off, and I don’t see why he won’t since the burden of proof is now on BHO’s shoulders, good old Hillary will step right in there.

Don’t you know she has been waiting for this and biding her time. Nice timing. I will bet this isn’t the only state that gets a suite filed against BHO.

96 posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:47:35 PM by calex59

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

It is obvious that the Obama campaign has been playing games, refusing to release this information until a lawsuit was entered against them.

102 posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:49:13 PM by WilliamReading

Obama Sued in Philadelphia Federal Court (Constitutionally Ineligible for the Presidency)
AmericaRight.com ^ | 8/21/08 | Jeff Schreiber
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:00:24 PM by LdSentinal
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2065855/posts

A prominent Philadelphia attorney and Hillary Clinton supporter filed suit this afternoon in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania against Illinois Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee.

The action seeks an injunction preventing the senator from continuing his candidacy and a court order enjoining the DNC from nominating him next week, all on grounds that Sen. Obama is constitutionally ineligible to run for and hold the office of President of the United States.

Phillip Berg, the filing attorney, is a former gubernatorial and senatorial candidate, former chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery (PA) County, former member of the Democratic State Committee, and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania. According to Berg, he filed the suit—just days before the DNC is to hold its nominating convention in Denver—for the health of the Democratic Party.

“I filed this action at this time,” Berg stated, “to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated.”.

Berg cited a number of unanswered questions regarding the Illinois senator’s background, and in today’s lawsuit maintained that Sen. Obama is not a naturalized U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls “dual loyalties” due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia.

Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator’s use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of “multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries” remains on the table.

In the lawsuit, Berg states that Sen. Obama was born in Kenya, and not in Hawaii as the senator maintains. Before giving birth, according to the lawsuit, Obama’s mother traveled to Kenya with his father but was prevented from flying back to Hawaii because of the late stage of her pregnancy, “apparently a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight.” As Sen. Obama’s own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed, Berg maintains that Stanley Ann Dunham—Obama’s mother—gave birth to little Barack in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth.

Berg cites inconsistent accounts of Sen. Obama’s birth, including reports that he was born at two separate hospitals—Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital—in Honolulu, as well a profound lack of birthing records for Stanley Ann Dunham, though simple “registry of birth” records for Barack Obama are available in a Hawaiian public records office.

Should Sen. Obama truly have been born in Kenya, Berg writes, the laws on the books at the time of his birth hold that U.S. citizenship may only pass to a child born overseas to a U.S. citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19 years of age. Sen. Obama’s mother was only 18 at the time. Therefore, because U.S. citizenship could not legally be passed on to him, Obama could not be registered as a “natural born” citizen and would therefore be ineligible to seek the presidency pursuant to Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution.

Moreover, even if Sen. Obama could have somehow been deemed “natural born,” that citizenship was lost in or around 1967 when he and his mother took up residency in Indonesia, where Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. Berg also states that he possesses copies of Sen. Obama’s registration to Fransiskus Assisi School In Jakarta, Indonesia which clearly show that he was registered under the name “Barry Soetoro” and his citizenship listed as Indonesian.

The Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg says, is a forgery. In the suit, the attorney states that the birth certificate on record is a forgery, has been identified as such by three independent document forensic experts, and actually belonged to Maya Kasandra Soetoro, Sen. Obama’s half-sister.

“Voters donated money, goods and services to elect a nominee and were defrauded by Sen. Obama’s lies and obfuscations,” Berg stated. “If the DNC officers ... had performed one ounce of due diligence we would not find ourselves in this emergency predicament, one week away from making a person the nominee who has lost their citizenship as a child and failed to even perform the basic steps of regaining citizenship as prescribed by constitutional laws.”

“It is unfair to the country,” he continued, “for candidates of either party to become the nominee when there is any question of the ability to serve if elected.”


8 posted on 01/11/2010 7:41:14 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("Some strands of conservatism (Ayn Rand) are intellectually bizarre and frankly destructive" Gagdad)
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To: Boardwalk

“Imagine if the media went after 0bama the way they went after Palin?”

Oh, in an ideal world, there would be tons and tons of “Journalistic Excellence” awards like Pulitzers given to those intrepid investigative reporters.

But in our real, Marxist-media world, their careers would be ruined. Look what they’re doing to Breitbart and those two wonderful young Journalists who exposed the ACORN scandals.


9 posted on 01/11/2010 7:43:04 AM PST by eCSMaster
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To: Matchett-PI

interesting, thanks


10 posted on 01/11/2010 7:46:56 AM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Bingo!!! “Constitutional” was the BUZZWORD for Barry now being a NATURALIZED CITIZEN!!


11 posted on 01/11/2010 7:49:43 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Matchett-PI; LucyT; bgill; Whenifhow; malkee; STE=Q; rocco55; thouworm; rxsid; GOPJ; Fred Nerks; ...
Ping.....................

Let’s not Forget: Bill Clinton was the first “Birther”

Matchett,

thank you for the blast from the past.

12 posted on 01/11/2010 7:55:53 AM PST by melancholy (Stop USA change, destroy the 0b0z0ne layer!)
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To: opentalk

I think the reason he said “as long as their qualified under the Constitution” is because otherwise his statement would make it seem as though he thought he should be able to run again. I seriously doubt it had anything to do with Obama.


13 posted on 01/11/2010 8:02:44 AM PST by Kleon
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To: refermech
More important to me is obamas college records. Did he attend classes? What were his grades? What was the subjects of his thesis papers? Who associated with him? Why is the press not demanding these records be made public???? Why???? Calling Fox news!!!!

And what nationality did he apply as? Some have said "Indonesian".

14 posted on 01/11/2010 8:18:28 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Al Gore was more concerned with the evil influence of heavy metal than that of radical Imam.)
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To: opentalk

You’re welcome!


15 posted on 01/11/2010 8:19:45 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("Some strands of conservatism (Ayn Rand) are intellectually bizarre and frankly destructive" Gagdad)
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To: Kleon

The Bill & Hillary “unelected co-presidency” is the biggest scam runaround to the constitutional term limit on the presidency. Hillary said that Bill would sit in on meetings if she was (re)elected to the White House.


16 posted on 01/11/2010 8:19:57 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Al Gore was more concerned with the evil influence of heavy metal than that of radical Imam.)
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To: melancholy

You’re welcome, too! :)


17 posted on 01/11/2010 8:21:03 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("Some strands of conservatism (Ayn Rand) are intellectually bizarre and frankly destructive" Gagdad)
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To: Matchett-PI

Thanks for the post.

I still think it was a shot across the bow to the Obamassiah klan by Bill, with maybe a little “Hail Mary” hope that SOMEONE OR ANYONE in the brain dead media would have started to investigate the “if he is qualified under the Constitution” angle so Bill and Hill could “feed the clues” without looking like the “racists ones” that “started the birther ball rolling”.

IMHO, I betcha Bill would GLADLY request a “Mulligan” on that first attempt, and NOW with this book out with his “coffee” quote, it’s about time for plan B.


18 posted on 01/11/2010 8:36:20 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: opentalk

bump


19 posted on 01/11/2010 8:58:08 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: opentalk; All
HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

 

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

 

 

Furthermore:  Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaii birth certificate.

20 posted on 01/11/2010 10:10:36 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: opentalk

ping


21 posted on 01/11/2010 12:37:50 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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