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Type Of Pistol

Posted on 01/11/2010 8:43:57 PM PST by Rose Commander

Hi, everybody. I got a question. I am in the market for a new pistol. I was recommended a Hi-Point .45 ACP pistol for a home defense weapon. I am curious as what do you all recommend. Please state a pistol that is at least a .40 or larger and it is $400 or less.

Thank you.


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1 posted on 01/11/2010 8:43:59 PM PST by Rose Commander
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To: Rose Commander

Check out Springfield Arms selection of weapons. The XD is superior to the Glock and cheaper.


2 posted on 01/11/2010 8:45:47 PM PST by rstrahan
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To: Rose Commander

Check out Springfield Arms selection of weapons. The XD is superior to the Glock and cheaper.


3 posted on 01/11/2010 8:45:49 PM PST by rstrahan
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To: Rose Commander

if you’re looking for a home defense weapon why not get a 12 gauge pump shotgun? easier to aim in the dark.


4 posted on 01/11/2010 8:46:08 PM PST by GodfearingTexan
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To: Rose Commander

unfreakin real - use a vanity tag , noob


5 posted on 01/11/2010 8:46:14 PM PST by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: Rose Commander

why a pistol?

how about a remington 870 12 gauge?

An interesting web site is http://www.theboxotruth.com/


6 posted on 01/11/2010 8:46:17 PM PST by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: Rose Commander
Rock Island Armory 1911 in .45 ACP $350


7 posted on 01/11/2010 8:46:46 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Rose Commander
Please state a pistol that is at least a .40 or larger and it is $400 or less.

Respectfully... if you know what you are doing, a 22 works just fine. Buy something you can handle with ease. You don"t have to vaporize them, just ventilate them a bit.... just sayin...

8 posted on 01/11/2010 8:47:41 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: mylife

Sweet! I’ve been looking for a bare-bones Model 1911. And I REALLY like the price. I’ll have to go check one out. Is that a parkerized finish?


9 posted on 01/11/2010 8:48:40 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: April Lexington

Now, if I could get one that would vaporize the intruders, dayum would that be cool. “Set phasers on ‘cook’”.


10 posted on 01/11/2010 8:50:14 PM PST by farlander (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Rose Commander

I would question your $400 limit. How much is your self-defense worth? I’d recommend a 1911 .45ACP. There’s some Colt’s in that range especially used. But I’d recommend the Kimber’s.

Your mileage may vary.


11 posted on 01/11/2010 8:50:38 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: behzinlea

Yes it is parkerized.

and its a great GI 1911 for the money.


12 posted on 01/11/2010 8:50:38 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Easy question. With $400 budget, go buy a used Glock.

Don’t know why you seem to want .40 and larger. 9mm is fine for personal defense (with the proper load) and the ammo is cheaper. If this is your first handgun, I couldn’t suggest strongly enough that you go 9mm over .40 or .45.

You should be able to find a good condition used Glock 17 or 19 for $400.


13 posted on 01/11/2010 8:55:50 PM PST by pogeybait
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To: farlander

That’s easy! Just hook your doorknobs up to an electrical outlet! ZAAAAAPPPP!


14 posted on 01/11/2010 8:56:11 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Rose Commander
A 9mm put in the same place as a 40 or 45 will kill them just as dead.

How good a shooter are you?

Get a Glock 19.

15 posted on 01/11/2010 8:56:39 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: mylife

Good choice. I bought one of those a few years back. Plenty of “bang for the buck”. I’d recommend it too.


16 posted on 01/11/2010 8:58:13 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Trailerpark Badass

But to add, stay away from Hi-Point.


17 posted on 01/11/2010 8:58:33 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (One good thing about music, when it hits you feel OK!)
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To: pogeybait

Good advice! ;0)


18 posted on 01/11/2010 9:00:12 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (One good thing about music, when it hits you feel OK!)
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To: Rose Commander

Mossberg Home Defender or any 12 ga pump shotgun with the shortest legal barrel.

You said “home defense” right, not plinking at cans or shooting at the range. Especially in an urban or suburban area, a large caliber handgun is more of a danger to your family and neighbors than it is of value as a defensive weapon.


19 posted on 01/11/2010 9:02:08 PM PST by bigbob
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To: mylife
I had a Springfield Armory 1911 but sold it. Now I have a Glock 19 and a Taurus Slim (for concealed carry), both in 9mm.

But I really miss my 1911. I wouldn't mind having a Kimber, but I don't want to spend that much money. I'd rather use the difference to buy ammo.

20 posted on 01/11/2010 9:02:09 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: Rose Commander

Well, I use a S&W.44 mag 6” Model 629 (you will not find it for under $400) and a Ruger 9mm P95DC (you can find these for under $400).


21 posted on 01/11/2010 9:04:07 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: behzinlea

I can out shoot my friends Kimber with the rock island commander.

Of course thats the shooters not the guns.


22 posted on 01/11/2010 9:04:14 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Rose Commander

I don’t put a $400 limit on my life.


23 posted on 01/11/2010 9:06:00 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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To: Rose Commander; All

Didn’t we just do this thread a couple weeks ago?


24 posted on 01/11/2010 9:06:09 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: behzinlea

Home defense only.......try the 12 GA 870
The 12 Guage makes one hell of a noise that cannot be mistaken for anything else but trouble......probably right up there with the noise of a rattlesnake.

If you need a handgun.....how about a light caliber revolver with a short barrel. They are ready to go out of the box and all you have to do is pull the trigger and they are ready to rock with no extra messing around.


25 posted on 01/11/2010 9:07:07 PM PST by Michigan Bowhunter (Democrat socialist liberal scumbags.....how did we let this happen!)
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To: Rose Commander

Don’t ever ever consider hipoint except as duck decoy anchors.


26 posted on 01/11/2010 9:08:09 PM PST by omega4179 (Marco2010)
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To: Rose Commander
A S&W Sigma VE series can usually be picked up for around $300 and change. Trigger's a little heavy but that can be a good thing for a novice and home use. Very, very accurate though. I can shoot a gnat off a fly's ass at 15m with my Sigma 9VE.


27 posted on 01/11/2010 9:10:23 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (I'd rather be an AGW denier than a dumbass Watermelon)
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To: Rose Commander

If the purpose of the weapon is truly home defense, find a youth 20ga pump shotgun. Load it up with bird shot. That will stop anyone interested it breaking into your home.

An automatic is much more difficult as a personal defense weapon unless you have had considerable training in their use. That said, a Glock 9MM would be a good choice. Lite weight, will shoot no matter how poorly you have taken care if the weapon and has a large capacity.

The secret to this, regardless of final choice, is range time, range time, range time . . . .


28 posted on 01/11/2010 9:11:53 PM PST by WKeller (Consider a shotgun.)
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To: mylife

Bump. Gotta get me one of those. ;o)


29 posted on 01/11/2010 9:12:00 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: mylife

$350!? You serious?

I like April’s suggestion of ventilizing them not vaporizing them. LOL!

I always am stunned when I read the NRA mag (now the only mag I subscribe to - used to get Forbes). The section with home defense stories.

Always the same story. Bad guy breaks in and granny or gramps has a .22 pistol. Tells intruder to stop, intruder keeps coming, senior fires, bad guy dies.

This contrasts with most gun owners that say “oh you have to have a .40 or .45 or .357 magnum or .44 (or a freaking Barrett BMG.50 ;-)) for stopping power.”


30 posted on 01/11/2010 9:15:25 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: Rose Commander

I have a S&W sigma .40 $350 and special deal right now either $50 off or 2 extra clips.. I went with the extra 13 round clips


31 posted on 01/11/2010 9:17:13 PM PST by garykfd (American by Birth, Southern by the Grace of God)
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To: Michigan Bowhunter
My home defense shotgun is a 75-year old Winchester Model 97 in perfect condition that I inherited. It's heavier and has more moving parts (including an exposed trigger that you have to watch out for) than a Remington 870, but it too makes a formidable and oh-so-satisfying sound when cycled. John Browning designed some fine machines.

I've resisted revolvers. No good reason. Just have. A good friend my mine conceal-carries a Taurus snubby revolver in .38 special for the reasons you outlined. He may persuade me yet.

32 posted on 01/11/2010 9:19:31 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: VeniVidiVici

Ruger’s new 9 mm carry gun is very nice and probably around $400. That is very good accuracy at 15 m. Nice to know. Sounds like Beretta FS 92, SIG or CZ 85 accuracy.

I do not think most Glock’s are that accurate. I tried a few but the trigger may have been a little odd for me.


33 posted on 01/11/2010 9:21:04 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: Rose Commander

Sorry but you are going to have to let loose a few more Benjamins to get a reliable weapon.

For close to your price I like the XD by Springfield.

My latest acquisition, a year ago, is a Kimber. A Policeman talked me into it. He showed me one filthy gun, with 4,000 rounds through it and never cleaned.

I was shocked anyone would do that with a gun but he assured me that he was testing the gun and using surplus ammo to make a really filthy gun.

He had it a year, no cleaning, 4,000 rounds and ZERO misfires.

I was impressed, purchase the same one he showed me and somehow talked myself into replicating his experiment. I have other guns so if, during the experiment, the gun failed, no big deal.

It was difficult to not clean the gun but it was an experiment.

after 1 year, 3,000 rounds, no cleaning and no misfires I cold not be happier with my gun. I maintained 3” @ 25yrds and I felt bad about treating my new friend that way.

So I soaked it over night in some Hoppes spent 45 minutes making it perfectly clean and I will never do that again.

Oh, and the Kimber was worth every penny of $1,600 and I am absolutely confident it will fire at all times and I even shot during the rain, so I am very sure of it’s reliability.


34 posted on 01/11/2010 9:22:23 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: mylife
Nice weapon.
I've been on the lookout for a 1911.
35 posted on 01/11/2010 9:22:52 PM PST by Semper Mark (Life is a series of sucker punches. Protect yourself at all times.)
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To: Revelation 911

Good catch. LOL


36 posted on 01/11/2010 9:23:17 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Rose Commander
This will take out the trash real quick like: Taurus Judge
37 posted on 01/11/2010 9:24:10 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: redlegplanner

Mossberg 500? costs less and very reliable.

Nothing wrong with your choice though.


38 posted on 01/11/2010 9:24:36 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: April Lexington

“..a 22 works just fine. Buy something you can handle with ease. You don”t have to vaporize them, just ventilate them a bit.” ~ April Lexington

Check it out ($365.)

http://www.gunblast.com/KelTec-PLR22.htm


39 posted on 01/11/2010 9:24:55 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("Some strands of conservatism (Ayn Rand) are intellectually bizarre and frankly destructive" Gagdad)
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To: April Lexington

“Respectfully... if you know what you are doing, a 22 works just fine. “

Respectfully... you are clueless.


40 posted on 01/11/2010 9:25:15 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: April Lexington

Or make them bleed until they get woozy in the head and need a transfusion.


41 posted on 01/11/2010 9:25:51 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Ramius

Word! Brother!

I love my Kimber II even after I trashed it in my little experiment.

Way to easy to work with.


42 posted on 01/11/2010 9:27:47 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Still Thinking

Every month is gun porn time.


43 posted on 01/11/2010 9:29:58 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

Consider purchasing a Stoeger Cougar model 8040. It really is a Beretta Cougar renamed. EXCELLENT handgun. Eleven .40 rounds in the clip.


44 posted on 01/11/2010 9:30:12 PM PST by dschueth
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To: omega4179

That wasn’t nice. LOL True, but not nice. LOL


45 posted on 01/11/2010 9:30:39 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Frantzie

You don’t think the Barret would turn them into an amputee and end any discussion?. LOL


46 posted on 01/11/2010 9:32:29 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Trajan88

That’ll go through school houses.


47 posted on 01/11/2010 9:34:22 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: farlander

“Now, if I could get one that would vaporize the intruders, dayum would that be cool. “Set phasers on ‘cook’”.” ~ farlander

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2426306/posts?page=39#39


48 posted on 01/11/2010 9:35:03 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("Some strands of conservatism (Ayn Rand) are intellectually bizarre and frankly destructive" Gagdad)
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To: Kirkwood

That’s a lot of respect. Respectfully.


49 posted on 01/11/2010 9:35:26 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

I’ve got two Kimber 1911’s... a full size 5” Custom that freaking drives nails, and an ultra-compact Kimber RCP (Refined Carry Pistol) that I carry on me pretty much all the time.

In my opinion there has been no improvement on John Moses Browning’s design in a very long time. Even a hundred years later there still isn’t a better design for an auto pistol.

Good enough for me. :-)


50 posted on 01/11/2010 9:35:59 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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