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100,000 - 500,000 Feared Dead in Haiti; Aid Worker: "Most Horrific Thing I've Ever Seen" - Video
Freedom's Lighthouse ^ | January 13, 2010 | Brian

Posted on 01/13/2010 11:32:41 AM PST by Federalist Patriot

Here is video of a Salvation Army aid worker talking with MSNBC about the "absolute chaos and pandemonium" he is seeing in Haiti in the wake of the Earthquake yesterday. During the interview, the man broke down and cried saying, "it is the most horrific thing I have ever seen."

Meanwhile, the first estimates of the death toll are coming out. Haitian officials have estimated between 100,000-500,000 people may have perished, although they admit they have no way of knowing:

Haitians are piling bodies along the devastated streets of their capital after a powerful earthquake flattened the president's palace and the main prison, the cathedral, hospitals, schools and thousands of homes. Untold numbers are still trapped.

President Rene Preval says he believes thousands of people are dead even as other officials give much higher estimates—though they were based on the extent of the destruction rather than firm counts of the dead.

His prime minister, Jean-Max Bellerive, tells CNN: "I believe we are well over 100,000," while leading senator Youri Latortue tells The Associated Press that 500,000 could be dead. Both admit they have no way of knowing.

The magnitude-7 quake struck Tuesday afternoon. . . . (VIDEO)


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: earthquake; haiti; haitiearthquake; haitiquake; haitiquake2010; salvationarmy

1 posted on 01/13/2010 11:32:42 AM PST by Federalist Patriot
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To: Federalist Patriot

Those poor souls. May God’s love and grace be with them in this hour of need. Thank goodness that America, once again, is the first to send aid and jump to help.


2 posted on 01/13/2010 11:35:50 AM PST by ezfindit (ConservativeDatingSite.com - The Right Place for Conservative Singles)
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To: Federalist Patriot
Deep Breath here, everyone.

Initial reports are always of the "Sky is Falling" sort. I'm sure that things are bad, but hyperbole helps no one.

Lets get the facts sorted out, first.

3 posted on 01/13/2010 11:37:11 AM PST by wbill
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To: wbill

I agree. We have been there. The poverty is horrible. I do believe there could be an incredible loss of life..yet, I also
believe that $$ could be lost with hysteria. Let the facts come to the surface ASAP. Again, I say, FACTS!!! Not emotion.


4 posted on 01/13/2010 11:41:51 AM PST by JHENN22499
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To: Federalist Patriot
Cyphers are not the Haitians strong suit..
Quoteing numbers on a whim is more like an American democrats bailywick...

Haitian politics and American democrat politics have the same GOAL...
Producing a Ghetto... same goal and mentality..

5 posted on 01/13/2010 11:42:52 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: wbill
Lets get the facts sorted out, first.

Agree, well said.

6 posted on 01/13/2010 11:43:45 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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To: wbill

I hope that these initial estimates are hugely overblown. It will probably take days to get a firmer estimate. This is what the Haitians are saying.


7 posted on 01/13/2010 11:45:21 AM PST by Federalist Patriot
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To: Federalist Patriot
It's certainly very bad.

Our local ham radio network is reporting that they have heard that one amateur in Cap-Haitien is o.k., and brief radio contact with a long time ham in Port au Prince was made a short time ago.

Otherwise there is no contact. Ordinarily by now the airwaves would be full of communications and the ARRL would be sorting them out. There are five frequencies that have been cleared for H&W (health and welfare) traffic, but nothing is coming through.

This is very bad.

8 posted on 01/13/2010 11:47:13 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Federalist Patriot

Reporter was with the Salvation Army. I’m sending money.

http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/www_usn_2.nsf/vw-dynamic-arrays/251F59D756CFC754802573250030B4A9?openDocument&charset=utf-8

Do what you can. I’ll give blood in the morning — feel so helpless.


9 posted on 01/13/2010 11:49:53 AM PST by fullchroma (Obama: GET OUT OF MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE!)
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To: ezfindit

Amen. I just heard that a certain church just fired up a DC-10 full of relief supplies and is planning on a return trip after this one is complete. Also, I know America will donate money big time and the Red Cross will kick butt as usual. God bless them all.


10 posted on 01/13/2010 11:51:46 AM PST by 999replies
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To: Federalist Patriot

I intend to help out financially. And I know the US will contribute heavily — though I know our meager contributions will come nowhere close to the massive infusion of capital from all of the wealthy green states in Africa that have been noble enough not to pollute the world with industrial waste.


11 posted on 01/13/2010 11:52:27 AM PST by hampdenkid
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To: Federalist Patriot
Godspeed.

It always amazes and dismays me that countries that are so regularly evangelized remain in squalor.

12 posted on 01/13/2010 11:53:59 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (You have only to be as brutal and ruthless as the Nazis and you will succeed in controlling prices.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Thanks for the insights. When you hear them say that more buildings have collapsed than are left standing, you know it is very bad.


13 posted on 01/13/2010 11:54:03 AM PST by Federalist Patriot
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To: Federalist Patriot

I asked this on another thread but nobody answered so I will ask here.

Why is it on every blog and youtube posting I see about Haiti today everyone keeps talking about HAARP and that HAARP caused this?


14 posted on 01/13/2010 11:56:19 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: wbill
I agree.
I seem to recall the initial reports from Katrina, which had some huge number of people dead. The real numbers turned out to be less than 10% of the initial reports.
If the MSM can't even get it right in this country, how can we believe their initial figures from Haiti?
15 posted on 01/13/2010 11:57:38 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: wbill

100,000 is a lot and probably the more accurate number. There were “only” some 270,000 killed in the indonesian tsunami a few years back.


16 posted on 01/13/2010 11:58:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Federalist Patriot

2 million people in PauP. 60% of the housing is substandard. Even many of the the newer multi-story hotels are down. Limited supplies, medical, etc. for those that do survive.


17 posted on 01/13/2010 12:00:03 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: My Favorite Headache
Why is it on every blog and youtube posting I see about Haiti today everyone keeps talking about HAARP and that HAARP caused this?

Because HAARP isn't finely tuned to kill morons.
18 posted on 01/13/2010 12:00:43 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: All

Direct to video:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/34842285#34842285


19 posted on 01/13/2010 12:04:04 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I saw that on some of them as well. There was another thread where some african country was blaming HAARP for the freezing event in Europe at the moment!

Probably a lack of science understanding, blaming the west, and perhaps in Haiti, HAARP might be considered some sort of high-tech voodoo.


20 posted on 01/13/2010 12:04:35 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: Federalist Patriot

Stop plate tectonics.


21 posted on 01/13/2010 12:06:18 PM PST by SonnyBubba
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To: Federalist Patriot

The population of Haiti is about 9 million. Even the low estimate of 100,000 would be as if the U.S. lost 3.3 million people. Imagine if we lost the entire state of Iowa plus 300,000 people.

The high estimate of 500,000 would be equivalent to 16.5 million. That would be like taking out all of Illinois and Oklahoma.

Either way, it’s huge.


22 posted on 01/13/2010 12:17:19 PM PST by Our man in washington
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To: Federalist Patriot
It's bad.

Check out the Reuters live blog.

23 posted on 01/13/2010 12:24:17 PM PST by smokingfrog (Don't mess with the mocking bird! - http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: My Favorite Headache

“Why is it on every blog and youtube posting I see about Haiti today everyone keeps talking about HAARP and that HAARP caused this?”

That way they can claim it is all America’s fault.


24 posted on 01/13/2010 12:24:23 PM PST by sticker
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To: Federalist Patriot

We need planes in the air saturating Haiti with food, blankets tents, fuel, cooking equipment, first aid supplies. I hope it is happening.


25 posted on 01/13/2010 12:27:49 PM PST by pallis
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To: Our man in washington

The Beaverton Christian Church (in Oregon) has some women who are on a mission there...to help but certainly they weren’t prepared to medical emergencies especially on this scale. One of them got an email out that was read on the radio this morning.

They had to use duct take to bandage a child whose arm had been cut off just above the elbow. His brother died from bleeding to death.

Their water faucets broke off at the wall and all that is coming out now is undrinkable brown water.

There was more but can’t remember it all ...and they desperately need supplies and prayers.

BTW, I wish Pat Robertson would STFU!


26 posted on 01/13/2010 12:28:57 PM PST by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: sticker

We should support the brave people of Haiti in their hour of need. BUT we should make sure the aid goes to the people and not the 2% who live like princes in a land of want. Get these people some food—set up some factories for them—They will not want much money. Maybe there is oil we could drill off their coast? How about some casinos for the cruise ships? Looks like Haiti could be a garden spot if the corruption wasn’t so great.


27 posted on 01/13/2010 12:33:21 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Federalist Patriot

The toll will never be known.


28 posted on 01/13/2010 12:39:57 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . What ever I do is what shall be)
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To: Our man in washington

Judging only by the geography and mix of housing — that high end is low end. The type of construction is the most vulnerable to earthquakes, and the geography is almost the most conductive to amplifying and concentrating the ground shaking.


29 posted on 01/13/2010 12:45:26 PM PST by bvw
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To: Federalist Patriot

This is terrible. My mother-in-law is down there but safe. Our family friend is down there and was staying in a hotel which was destroyed. We still have yet to hear anything about him.


30 posted on 01/13/2010 1:15:48 PM PST by cartervt2k
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To: sticker

Oh how ignorant of me to forget they would do that! My bad.


31 posted on 01/13/2010 1:43:32 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: SmokingJoe
Well, I think the figure will probably turn out to be either about right or low - and many of the deaths will never be known.

We don't have the kind of substandard construction they have in Haiti, we also don't jam people on top of each other the way they do, 15 or 20 to a house. If the Presidential Palace and the big hotels are down, then all the little unreinforced concrete-block buildings and houses are down too, with all the people inside.

32 posted on 01/13/2010 2:02:39 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: wbill

I remember the initial reports of Katrina. This time, lets wait for the actual count. The Haitian govt has an incentive to inflate the numbers in order to get more aid flowing.


33 posted on 01/13/2010 2:07:07 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Federalist Patriot
Haitian officials have estimated between 100,000-500,000 people may have perished, although they admit they have no way of knowing:

In Haiti, they don't count the bodies.

34 posted on 01/13/2010 2:09:58 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Federalist Patriot
I had feared that because the epicenter of the earthquake information based on this USGS map:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/pager/events/us/2010rja6/exposure.png

Shows death toll would be ENORMOUS. This is literally in the most densely populated part of the country, and we know at least 60% of the buildings in Port-au-Prince are destroyed. In short, we are now talking perhaps the greatest death toll for an earthquake ever recorded in the history of the Western Hemisphere.

35 posted on 01/13/2010 5:07:56 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Federalist Patriot
Got a report from another ham on a blog this evening.

He says that Fr. Hainault was back on the air, and said he was out of the city when the earthquake occurred.

My husband (who has talked to a lot of hams in Haiti) says there are very few generators in the area, so any hams who are operating are on very low power. Which makes them hard to hear.

36 posted on 01/13/2010 7:58:12 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Petronski

No thanks. I’d rather support the OP who is doing a great job of bringing relevant and substantive video to FR in the form of threads on a consistent basis. MSNBC didn’t bring it here.


37 posted on 01/13/2010 11:48:33 PM PST by TigersEye (Tar & feathers! Pitchforks and torches! ... Get some while supplies last.)
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To: Federalist Patriot

General Honore says send in the troops.I trust him.
Here he is in New Orleans.
General Honore
You are STUCK ON STUPID
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVBY_SqzJtI


38 posted on 01/13/2010 11:53:36 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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