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Is Teaching American History Unconstitutional?
Right Side News ^ | January 17, 2010 | David Barton

Posted on 01/17/2010 6:36:21 AM PST by RightSideNews

writing teams of Texas teachers drafted the 2010 proposed standards...The writing teams had recommended the removal of Nathan Hale, Daniel Boone, and General George Patton; they eradicated Columbus Day, Martin Luther King Day, and Christmas (but they did add Diwali as a holiday). They also declared that to say there was "an American love of individualism, inventiveness, and freedom" was to express inappropriate "value language," and they also rejected the concept of identifying specific beliefs that contributed to ou "national identity."

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1 posted on 01/17/2010 6:36:21 AM PST by RightSideNews
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To: RightSideNews

Education (actually re-education)is the key ingredient in taking back our nation. We must pass along the TRUTH of American Exceptionalism to our children and grandchildren, as an antidote to what they are hearing elswhere.


2 posted on 01/17/2010 6:47:55 AM PST by Phantom4
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To: RightSideNews

It’s bad for me to get this mad this early on a Sunday. I’ll come back later.


3 posted on 01/17/2010 6:47:57 AM PST by pepperdog (As Israel goes, so goes America!)
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To: RightSideNews

My 10 year old son is reading the story of Daniel Boone - taken from DB’s writings and memoirs. And loving it! Of course, we’re Kentuckians. And homeschoolers. ;-)


4 posted on 01/17/2010 6:49:11 AM PST by kimmie7 (THE CROSS - Today, Tomorrow and Always!)
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To: RightSideNews
They also declared that to say there was "an American love of individualism, inventiveness, and freedom" was to express inappropriate "value language," and they also rejected the concept of identifying specific beliefs that contributed to ou "national identity."

To combat this lunacy and mountain of lies, Americans will have to put the Tea Party movement on steroids, and start new movements that specifically target issues such as what is taught to American's children. These movements will have to become very large, loud and nasty (within the law, of course). Polite discourse will not work against this coalition of self-hating white ideologues and minorities claiming victim status.

5 posted on 01/17/2010 6:52:20 AM PST by Will88
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To: RightSideNews

Texas?! Is there any state these worthless vermin haven’t infested yet?


6 posted on 01/17/2010 6:53:00 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: RightSideNews
Please, please, please...Conservative please abandon the idea that government schools can be reformed!

Government schools have **always** been a Utopian progressive and fascist scheme. The very goal of the Utopian progressives and industrialists of the mid-1800s was the production of a compliant and fascist worker class. They have succeeded admirably!

The fascist-Utopian progressives have **always** been in charge of the government school curriculum and teacher training. They have **always** been pushing the schools further and further toward fascism! They have been doing this since government schools opened in the mid-1800s to early 1900s.

Within one to three generations of fascist-socialist government school indoctrination we had:

**the IRS
**the federal reserve
**the feminist movement
**direct election of Senators
** the failed League of Nation and then the U.N.
** FDR elected FOUR times with his New Deal
**Johnson's Great Society
** farm and other industrial subsidies
** and thousands of other socialist programs and agencies.

Wow! The “Greatest Generation” and their parents and great grandparents were the first to be **INDOCTRINATED** in government schools! I don't think the above government interference listed above is so “great”.

Simply by attending the Greatest Generation and their parents learned that it was OK for government to take money from their neighbor to pay for a service their parents wanted tuition-FREE! Well?...If it is OK for the government to take money for schooling why not a thousand other wants and needs?

7 posted on 01/17/2010 6:53:53 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: wintertime

We are never to give up and to always push back, regardless of the odds. Anywhere the enemies of truth lie, whether in the school house, church house, or white house, we must shine the light of truth! Deleting historical truths from text books for the purpose of teaching their agenda to children is criminal!


8 posted on 01/17/2010 6:58:38 AM PST by RightSideNews
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To: Will88

To combat this lunacy and mountain of lies, Americans will have to put the Tea Party movement on steroids, and start new movements that specifically target issues such as what is taught to American’s children.
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Hopefully, the Tea Party movement will realize the government schools must be SHUT DOWN! Government schools have **always** been a fascist Utopian and progressive scheme!

We need voucher, charters, and tax credits to build the infrastructure and then we must move to completely privatize all K-12 schooling.


9 posted on 01/17/2010 6:59:23 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: RightSideNews

Yes sir. Diversity is a strength. The Marxist are in full control. The anti-white crusade will not stop until we are destroyed or we stop it.


10 posted on 01/17/2010 7:02:26 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: RightSideNews

One of the best ways to “push back” is to pull the rug out from under them. Think of it like a martial arts maneuver.

We must get the children **out** of the government schools.

But...Yes, I agree. We must push back against those indoctrinating our children in the government schools. In the mean time though we need to get the kids OUT of the government schools. We need to be laying strategies for completely closing down the government K-12 schools.


11 posted on 01/17/2010 7:03:05 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: RightSideNews

It is called revisionist history. part of the New Paradigm Thought. Yes, it has even entered the American Church. Yes, that is right it is being spread through churches in America. American children do not need to know whom and what contributions George Washington, Daniel Boone, Abraham Lincoln, Benjamin Franklin, Samuel Adams and others. Instead look at martin Luther King, Malcom X and Barack Obama have done for Americans. Church denies Jesus Christ. ridulcules Jean Calvin ( Protestant Ethic) Martin Luther, John Knox. strives to say that socialism is advocated in scripture and tradition. Some call it Post America, Post Christian. World Globalization. Liberal Progressivism


12 posted on 01/17/2010 7:03:32 AM PST by hondact200 (hondact200 No to Socialism - Michigan is bad, socialism would even be worse)
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To: wintertime
Hopefully, the Tea Party movement will realize the government schools must be SHUT DOWN!

Government schools are not going to be shut down. People can work for vouchers and other alternatives, but the biggest change will be brought about by fighting those who are/have turned public schools into PC indoctrination centers.

13 posted on 01/17/2010 7:06:30 AM PST by Will88
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To: RightSideNews

In California striving to ban Home Schooling. one case already has done so, it is in the appeals process. Publick Scrool is making for unedukated children inkapable of thinking or speling. improper grammar like ‘he and his sister’ (Michelle Obama) could be considered negro dialect or educated elitist whom were passed through due to affirmative action


14 posted on 01/17/2010 7:08:11 AM PST by hondact200 (hondact200 No to Socialism - Michigan is bad, socialism would even be worse)
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To: Will88

I was thinking - since they fight with such intensity to make sure God isn’t brought into the classrooms, why can’t we start some sort of coalition to monitor classrooms and put up a website to “rate a professor” by these volunteers - some sort of scale on liberalism and socialistic tendencies. So what if they all show up as perfect 10’s (on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being Obamalike) We have to start making a point about what’s going on in the schools. I have a friend whose twin boys are attending a Christian university. Just got into a facebook debate with them, they are 100% for full blown socialism.


15 posted on 01/17/2010 7:13:06 AM PST by TiredofItalltoo (tiredofitalltoo)
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To: RightSideNews

Hopefully, Texas will have a whole new slew of homeschoolers or private school students whose parents will not countenance this nonsense. Unfortunately, as far as textbooks go, I believe that both Texas and California textbook providers have great influence over the rest of the country.


16 posted on 01/17/2010 7:13:13 AM PST by goldi (')
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To: Soothesayer

Other than a few pockets in the major cities, we have pretty well narrowed their infestation. Unfortunately for us, that concentration is in the state capital, Austin.


17 posted on 01/17/2010 7:18:12 AM PST by Common Sense 101
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To: TiredofItalltoo
I have a friend whose twin boys are attending a Christian university. Just got into a facebook debate with them, they are 100% for full blown socialism.

I think that's pretty common for young and dumb college kids. Always has been, but most change when they actually start work, earning a living and paying taxes.

I think what you said, what goes on in the classroom and the curriculum, and textbooks are where the real battles should be waged with school boards and state boards of education.

The people who oppose this PC indoctrination could overwhelm those who promote it in most parts of the US. But it will take organization and a nasty attitude to get the attention of these PC automatons.

18 posted on 01/17/2010 7:26:08 AM PST by Will88
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To: Will88
Government schools are not going to be shut down.
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I agree with you that we must push back hard against fascist Marxist Utopianism wherever we find it. This means actively doing all we can to change the school boards and curriculum of our current government schools.

But...I disagree with you that government schools can not be shut down. Why?

Answer: Seemingly large and intractable institutions can lose their legitimacy almost overnight. For example, Martin Luther and the Catholic church, the fall of the Soviet Union, and our own American Revolution.

We now have voucher, tax credits, and charters in many states. The waiting lists for these programs are very very long. The parents whose children are on this lists are politically very well organized, vocal, and effective in their lobbying efforts. Legislators will not ( and are not) deaf to their pleas. Since government schooling is the largest expense for most counties and the state, charters, vouchers, and tax credits are one of the most effective means for balancing the state budgets and getting government school employees off the state pension and benefit programs.

Then, as conservatives, we must encourage parents to take their children out of the government schools. This starves the government schools of the funding that goes with that children.

Finally, homeschooling continues its remarkable growth of 7 to 15% a year.

Taken all together, I am very hopeful.

19 posted on 01/17/2010 7:41:44 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: RightSideNews
Is teaching history "unconstitutional"??? NO.

And that is because our public schools teach revisionist history.

Therefore...everything is peachy.

20 posted on 01/17/2010 7:43:14 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (Keep your friends close......keep your enemies closer!)
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To: wintertime
Taken all together, I am very hopeful.

There are large swaths of the US population where the 'parents' don't even fix their kids' breakfast, but rely on the schools. There is no possibility that all parents in the US are going to assume responsibility for securing an education for their children outside government provided schooling.

Alternatives will probably grow in size, and leave a smaller and even more disfunctional and ineffective government system, but the government schools are here to stay.

21 posted on 01/17/2010 7:51:39 AM PST by Will88
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To: goldi

As a matter of fact, the school book orders from Texas and California are so large that a school book not acceptable to either state is usually doomed.

School book publishers are both profit driven and in bed with the collectivists.

Bad deal for America.


22 posted on 01/17/2010 8:48:48 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GladesGuru

Sigh, and here I am studying up on San Jacinto so’s I kin teach y’all.


23 posted on 01/17/2010 8:57:32 AM PST by BenKenobi (;)
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To: wintertime; All
Please, please, please...Conservative please abandon the idea that government schools can be reformed!

Brutally correct.

You can't "reform" cancer. You avoid it, counter it, eliminate it.

Government education is exactly the same thing.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

24 posted on 01/17/2010 10:48:12 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: RightSideNews

in Texas? TEXAS!

loons can propose anything, let me know how the vote goes.


25 posted on 01/17/2010 1:59:34 PM PST by lack-of-trust
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Thanks RightSideNews.
...writing teams of Texas teachers drafted the 2010 proposed standards...The writing teams had recommended the removal of Nathan Hale, Daniel Boone, and General George Patton; they eradicated Columbus Day, Martin Luther King Day, and Christmas (but they did add Diwali as a holiday). They also declared that to say there was "an American love of individualism, inventiveness, and freedom" was to express inappropriate "value language," and they also rejected the concept of identifying specific beliefs that contributed to ou "national identity."
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26 posted on 01/18/2010 8:26:47 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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What is “Diwali”?

I've never heard of it.

Tell me, is it another fabricated Africa Holiday like Kwanzaa?

27 posted on 01/18/2010 8:58:44 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: RightSideNews

This isn’t the Texas I thought I knew.

“In fact, they declared that students needed to be shaped “for responsible citizenship in a global society,” but not citizenship in American society. And instead of an emphasis on the positive things about America (i.e., American Exceptionalism), America was often shown as fault-ridden - as a global villain.”


28 posted on 01/18/2010 9:02:38 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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Excerpt:

One of those in the Religious Left is Christian secularist, Dr. Derek Davis, Dean of Humanities at Mary Hardin Baylor (a Baptist University) and director of the school's Center for Religious Liberty. Although he heads a department at a major Christian university, he is a national evangelist for a completely secular public square; and based on his previous statements, he apparently wants to see all mentions of Christianity confined, like pornography, to the privacy of one’s own personal life.

Dr. Davis amazingly asserts in the Houston Chronicle that a mention of Christianity in American history standards will “violate the Constitution” because it will portray “the United States as a Christian nation in some legal sense.”

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Unbelievable HYPOCRISY and LIES.

29 posted on 01/18/2010 9:04:31 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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I couldn’t resist. I'd never heard of this holiday.

Diwali, Divali, Dewali, Deepavali (Buddhism, Hindu, India)
Diwali is a five day Hindu festival which occurs on the fifteenth day of Kartika. Diwali means “rows of lighted lamps” and the celebration is often referred to as the Festival of Lights. During this time, homes are thoroughly cleaned and windows are opened to welcome Laksmi, goddess of wealth. Candles and lamps are lit as a greeting to Laksmi. Gifts are exchanged and festive meals are prepared during Diwali. The celebration means as much to Hindus as Christmas does to Christians.

Because there are many regions in India, there are many manifestations of the Diwali festival. In at least one area, the festival begins with Dhanteras, a day set aside to worship Laksmi. In the Indian culture, wealth is not viewed as a corruptive power. Instead, a wealthy person is considered to have been rewarded for good deeds of a past life.

On the second day Kali, the goddess of Strength, is worshipped. This day also focuses on abolishing laziness and evil.

On the third day (the last day of the year in the lunar calendar), lamps are lighted and shine brightly in every home. The lamp symbolizes knowledge and encourages reflection upon the purpose of each day in the festival. The goal is to remember the purpose throughout the year.

The fourth day of Diwali falls on the first day of the lunar New Year. At this time, old business accounts are settled and new books are opened. The books are worshipped in a special ceremony and participants are encouraged to remove anger, hate, and jealousy from their lives.

On the final day (Balipratipada) of the festival, Bali, an ancient Indian king, is recalled. Bali destroyed the centuries old philosophies of the society. However, in addition to this, he is remembered for being a generous person. Thus, the focus of this day is to see the good in others, including enemies.

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http://www3.kumc.edu/diversity/ethnic_relig/diwali.html

I figured when I did a search on it the “diversity calendar” would be a good place to find this leftist, UNCHRISTIAN holiday. BTW, the typos above are NOT mine, for a change. Whoever wrote this dribble, gets that "honor". LOL!!!!

30 posted on 01/18/2010 9:23:51 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: metmom

ping...


31 posted on 01/18/2010 9:38:44 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: RightSideNews
The roots of English Law are grounded in the original belief that the principles of (common) law were once given by God and are immutable (unchangeable.) The declaration or application of that organic law in a particular case led to a body of recorded decisions and it is by studying those decisions that one could know the law. Continuity among those decisions is the idea of stare decisis. “Let the decision stand.” (Or Stare decisis et non quieta movere, “Maintain what has been decided and do not alter that which has been established”.) The God-given quality of the law referenced basis in the Mosaic or Bible-based law and values of right and wrong.

In 1190, responding to baronial protest, King Edward accepted the legal doctrine of the “limit of legal memory.” Under this doctrine, a right continuously exercised since the coronation of Richard I, even without specific support for it, was valid. This doctrine was extended to all branches of the law, so that any legal precedent after 1190, not otherwise modified or overruled by subsequent judicial or legislative action, may be pleaded in modern English courts.

The United States formally accepted the English Law of the time as its law, insofar as it was not inconsistent with the Constitution. So, we cannot severe our culture from the Bible. It is entwined in the very fabric of our law. To try and purge that, is to try and disassemble the sinews that tie America together as a body.

English Law at the time we accepted it was very different from other types of law. It was a combination of Mosaic, Saxon (tort/equity, manorial juries, assemblies) and echos of Roman Law. The people of England had secured the “Rights of Englishmen” under a series of royal concessions wrested under the Magna Carta, Parva Carta, Provisions of Oxford, Provisions of Westminster, Mise of Lewes, Confirmation of Charters of 1297, Triennial Act, Grand Remonstrance, Nineteen Propositions, Militia Bill, declaration of Commonwealth, Bonham's Case in 1610, Parliament's “Apology” of 1604, the “Great Protestation” of 1621, “The Instrument of Government” and bill of rights - An attempt at a written constitution, the Levellers and the 1649 “Agreement of the People,” Declaration of Breda, Thomas v. Sorrel, Declaration of Rights” of 1689, and Act of Habeas Corpus.

The “Petition of Right” was the first major constitutional document since the Magna Carta, declaring the fundamental right of Englishmen as positive law. In four sections, the petition addressed limits on royal powers as established in long-standing custom: (1) No person should be required to pay a tax or benevolence without parliamentary approval; (2) No person should be imprisoned without cause being shown, with the royal command not to be sufficient cause; (3) No troops should be quartered in private homes without the consent of and compensation to their owners; and
(4) The crown should issue no commissions for proceedings by martial law.

The “Declaration of Rights” of 1689 claimed restoration of practices based on the constitution of 1641. The Declaration denied the “pretended” right of the king to suspend laws. It implemented a new coronation oath binding the sovereign to govern according to acts of Parliament. The Declaration also stated:

(1) All (kings) prerogative courts were declared illegal; (2) Levying taxes or enforced payments to the crown without parliamentary consent was declared illegal; (3) Everyone was recognized as having the right to petition the Crown; (4) The King was prohibited from maintaining a standing army without Parliamentary consent; (5) It was declared lawful to keep and bear arms; (6) The election of members of the Parliament was to be free of coercion by the government; (7) Freedom of debate in Parliament was guaranteed; (8) Excessive bail and cruel and unusual punishment was prohibited; (9) Juries were to be empaneled and returned in every trial; (10) It was established that the Parliament must be frequently convened; (11) The judiciary became independent, not serving at the pleasure of the Crown but permanently on “good behavior”; (12) no one owed allegiance to a sovereign who was Catholic or married to one; and (13) it set forth the succession to the throne.

From our English roots we inherited a right of petition, writ/remedy, the concept of due process of law, the vote of the freeman and election of representatives, consent for taxation, prohibitions on a standing army, free speech in Parliament, grievance, rules of evidence, sworn testimony, pleadings, oral testimony, affidavits, the ordinance and sovereign power of the People.

In contrast, the Roman Law was set in a series of Maxims that were declared by the ruler and applied. French law. Admiralty Law and International Law are based in Roman Law.

By cutting off a large portion of our foundational cultural, legal and religious inheritance as non-PC, we lose our identity and uniqueness among nations. We also lose an appreciation of how our rights were secured over centuries of struggle.

(historic ref: Colin Rhys Lovell's English Constitutional and Legal History, Oxford University Press, c1962)

32 posted on 01/18/2010 12:59:16 PM PST by marsh2
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To: RightSideNews; All
"Every child in America entering school at the age of five is mentally ill because he comes to school with certain allegiances to our founding fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It is up to you as teachers to make all of these sick children well -- by creating the international child of the future."

Dr. Chester M. Pierce, Professor of Education at Harvard, addressing the Association for Childhood Education International in April,1972

It is LONG past time to rid our body politic of the evil of marxism/socialism/communism/statism!

33 posted on 01/18/2010 2:20:25 PM PST by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER (NRA member) III Oathkeeper)
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To: RightSideNews

Let’s tell this idiot where it is at:

ddavis@umhb.edu

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. “


34 posted on 01/18/2010 3:22:37 PM PST by BabaOreally
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ddavis@umhb.edu


35 posted on 01/18/2010 3:53:49 PM PST by BabaOreally
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ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

36 posted on 01/18/2010 5:33:43 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; wardaddy
David Barton is repeatedly refered to as an "expert" reviewer - what are his qualifications? The reports I read (linked) appear unprofessional, non-academic, and are hard to follow.

Barton argues TEKS results are not measurable, but his reports appear to have no alternative, nor is his data categorized in a quanitified fashion. The reports wander and at times appear to be a personal attack, rather than focus on the content.

In the end the changes appear trivial and fit within the same mold as TEKS. The changes are editorial in nature, not a fundamental shift in the way we teach history, geography, and government. I also found it interesting there was extermely little mention of Scots-Irish people. And the author went out of his way with this special partisian jab at Southerners:

"southern racist Democrats who helped in forming the Confederacy, including President Jefferson Davis and Vice-President Alexander Stephens (who delivered his famous speech that slavery was the cornerstone of the Southern Confederacy)."

None of the recommended curriculum changes refer to Sherman's brutal tactics in the War Between the States, President Grant's scandals, or the inadequate management of Reconstruction by the GOP.

Interestingly enough, Democrat Senator James Webb wrote a fantastic book on the influence of our people: Born Fighting: How the Scots-Irish Shaped America

Perhaps I misinterpreted the author's intent or I missed something due to disorganized nature of the reports.

37 posted on 01/18/2010 7:25:41 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner

indeed the very folks who laud the war on civilians waged by Grant and Sherman and others who be the first to decry waging total war today on an enemy with far more mal intent than the South ever had for the north

but..yo, we’re talking about how much we can hang for the black man..

they out Sherman Sherman...

it’s all about the race baby...that is all it is


38 posted on 01/18/2010 10:47:54 PM PST by wardaddy (Regardless of how screwed up Haiti is, we should not let folks die that we can help)
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To: Will88
Government schools are not going to be shut down.

I agree with you. But, one thing we could do is try to get a conservative elected to the White House.... a conservative that removes (hopefully attempts/succeeds in disbanding the Department of Edu) the DoE/NEA from putting their hands so deeply into state affairs.

We need to elect govenors that will put us on track to slowly remove state interference with schools and foster the free market. Provide tax breaks/refunds for parents that send children to private schools. Provide tax breaks for private companies that own schools (no property taxes). Start removing free lunch/breakfast programs (do you really need to receive that much dang money in foodstamps when your kids receive 2 cooked meals a day "free"?). Allow students to choose from a basic diploma or a vocational diploma. You fail out of school and don't have a diploma, or homeschool certification... no welfare, no social security, no food stamps, no housing allowance, no gov't paid cellphone, nada. Oh yeah, AND NO ILLEGALS in public school. That's what I like to call "incentive."

Stop allowing teacher's unions to have all of the power... if you don't measure up....you're fired; your pension... buh-bye, your teaching certification = canceled. If you're a principal/superintendant and you look the other way... same deal and you're possibly charged with fraud. Allow competition to occur. People will soon realize how much better the private schools are. Soon, the public schools will be unfunded and hopefully close.... or they'll have to change.

...but it is little more than a pipe dream.

39 posted on 01/19/2010 2:27:22 PM PST by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Repeat Offender
...but it is little more than a pipe dream.

And to make it worse, some past Republicans have contributed to the current state of education. GHWB worked to pass Goals 2000 during his term, and he worked with the governor of Arkansas on some of the recommended curriculum changes. A lot of this crap has come about through Republican support of globalism, and the notion of producing future employees rather than educated citizens.

Even making a start at dismantling the current curricula and education establishment will be a major project that will require an entirely different sort of Republican and some true conservatives in office.

40 posted on 01/19/2010 2:39:19 PM PST by Will88
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