Skip to comments.On the Troll Problem
Posted on 01/17/2010 4:22:23 PM PST by reasonisfaith
This is a response to the plan by Obama and his advisors like Cass Sunstein to cognitively infiltrate groups they wrongfully designate as targets. So the leftists think theyre gonna pull off an Alinsky-style revolution, for the purpose of overthrowing the United States Constitution?
There are many here who will support and defend the United States Constitution, and who will reject the tactics of Saul Alinsky, Cloward-Piven, and all of communism. There are many here who take communist icons at their word, considering them as enemies of the United States. These enemies can be defeated.
Sinister characters, with neither the courage nor the ability to make themselves known publicly, use Obama to steal our liberty. Like puppeteer wannabees, they direct their puppet and the leftist-controlled House and Senate to institute the slavery of socialism.
Their mental-slave labor comes from unions such as SEIU. Healthcare, climate legislation, immigration and exploitation of natural disasters like the earthquake in Haiti are just some of the fronts they use to overthrow liberty.
Were on the right side. From tea parties to Sarah Palin, to the Brown/Coakley race in Massachusetts, we are gaining a stronghold. Climategate and ongoing cold weather, along with algore photos, have been a source of comic relief. This forum has unlimited potential to advance our front line as we fight to defend liberty.
But we still have trolls to deal with, trolls who think they can infiltrate Free Republic as they try to overthrow our free republic.
Now heres the whole point of this thread. If anyone is disheartened by the reality of not knowing whom to trust on this website, there is a solution.
Trust the principles first, and the rest will fall into place. Most Freepers are trustworthy.
The fruit born by leftist trolls on this website--their comments--will in some instances seem a bit out of place. It will be presented buried and hidden from view, amongst conservative-sounding rhetoric. Eventually they violate one or more conservative principle. The most common tactic seems to be the attempt to plant a seed of doubt.
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?" (Matthew 7:15-16)
One of their greatest weaknesses is their belief that intellect is defined as the ability to deceive. Another is their failure to understand the worthlessness of their ideology.
CAll for Brown tomorrow...... I am and have ..... they can not stand constant pressure... now is the time and this is the first one.... We can work on Nelson and others...later.
I think that the free market system might help is all. If Jim made FR a subscription site, I think that we would have very few “trolls” and a much better sounding board, and organizatuional site for the conservative movement.
Only subscribers could post, and pay for the privilege. Everyone else could view as much as yhey want. I would have no qualms about seeing Jim do just that, and still require subscribers to have a conservative orientation.
HOw much would it cost a year ?
$88k x 4 / 70,000= 5 bucks a year. I am good for it.
I’d pay for twenty years in advance.
HA! They only exist because their hero is a fraud and afraid of being uncovered. As soon as he slides down that slippery slope he’s already put both feet on, they will drift away like pondscum in the wind.
Hmmm, your suggestion smacks of re-direction....suggesting a subscription eh? Just something a mole would do throw people off his trail!
What are you hiding?
Could this be why some of the SEIU members are backing Brown in Mass? Holding up signs for Brown, to make his support seem like it is more than it should be, just to get shot down on Tuesday?
DU type trolls are easy to spot, it’s the RINOs that are a little bit harder
I guess I should confess right now. I would like to be the official FR troll.
This has been a tactic of the Romney camp for over a year...had some success early on actually, and probably saddled us with McCain.
Many of us would. Jim could go with the next evolution.Many of us have been hinting. If the trolls want on board, make them pay big.And fine them every time they exceed posting guidelines with 5th column crap ( gotchyer credit card numbah!!!!)
I’d love to see that.We could be Sunstein proof in a snap.
Angus has left home for work.
Strong men of all kinds play football on Wednesday.
BUahahahahah. I am hiding your rectum? You need an enema or perhaps a pool push.I am redirecting nothing.
I too agree that with a subscription-based model, it would eliminate the DU/Kos-trolls. + might once and for all end the quarterly freepathons.
You could also offer lifetime memberships, as well as different levels of membership. Gold, Silver, Bronze would allow members to have avatars + extra’s.
could already be happening. I have seen little troll spoor of late.
Probably me. I manage to yank somebody’s chain at least once a day.
The original number 666
(j/k) = Joking.
Yes, I think it a good idea whose time is upon us,many of us have been here for over 5 years, and we have a loyal following.
It also might make it harder for the DHS to intervene on a private site.
We also could have a combination of private/public.
My apology. Its been a long freaking day.
Everybody is somebody else’s troll.
No problem FRiend. It was a lame attempt at humor anyway on a long Sunday of chasing a 4 month old boy and 3 year old boy around while trying to watch two football games and surf FR......
That said, my opinion on trolls is to watch them for a certain period of time--a pattern will form. I have seen posters zotted for silly posts or comments when they were new and probably harmless. Worse, longstanding members--Marines for example, good conservatives, Paulites--as if a mod took their comments personally.
I like to think new signups are attracted to FR because they find like minds and want to join the fight against the New Politburo in DC.
And yes, support Scott Brown! Help make Jan 20 Morning In America!!!
Infiltrators are not trolls.
I take it that you are not afraid of cats.
Is this really more of a problem now than before? I think Sunstein may be playing mind games to seed paranoia.
Lately, there have been several zotted who had old sign up dates, but only recent posting activity.
Just because someone has “been here for years” doesn’t make them legit. Look at their posting history.
I been there, and believe it or not , in what will later seem like a short while they will leave home and you will be alone like me.I remember my young family with a great deal of fondness.
That’s really not a good idea if the mission is furthering conservative ideals. We want what we discuss here to be viewed easily by everybody.
Would a church charge visitors who stop by to learn more about their congregation?
Trolls can’t come close to competing with the members here, and I imagine that Jim is able to raise what he needs with Freepathons. If he needs more money to operate the site I’m sure we’ll hear about it! :)
It might even necessitate me calling the talkshows again, even though I have pretty much stopped that hobby.
Trolls have only two basic approaches to infiltration.
1.) Watering down the message in order to appear “more reasonable”. (i.e. moderate, worldly etc.)
2.)Going extreme in order to show outsiders “how scary these conservatives are” using their own planted posts.
I have noticed this... I've been a Freeper since 2003 and there generally aren't too many posters from 1998... and I know the ones who are...but all of a sudden there's a rash of posters from 1998, and none of the names are familiar to me. And they don't seem to know anything about FR either, and they ask questions about things they would certainly know if they'd been posting for 10+ years.
“Everybody is somebody elses troll.”
Reminds me of a solution, mentioned here once, to the reality problem faced by liberals pushing global warming: warm is the same thing as cold.
Don’t become over-confident. The libs will use every dirty trick in the book to insure Scott loses.
HELP SCOTT DEFEAT THE OBAMA SOCK PUPPET!!
(stole this from another FReeper, but bears repeating)
People in ANY state can volunteer for the phone bank! http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topics/phone-calls-for-freedom-call-1?commentId=2600775%3AComment%3A1891491&xg_source=activity
Anyone Anywhere Contribute! https://www.icontribute.us/scottbrown
Live in or near MA? Volunteers still needed at many regional offices. If you can help, please email Laura@brownforussenate.com and she will tell you how.
If you live in Massachusetts, become an election judge. In Boston they pay $135-$185 and they NEED Republican monitors.
Needed; military and retired law enforcement VFW and police organizations etc to monitor polls- prevent the voter fraud theyre plotting right now. Video tape everything; document everything; prosecute the perpetrators. http://www.cityofboston.gov/news/default.aspx?id=3599
The point is not any increase or decrease in the problem.
If that were Sunstein’s agenda, he would be defeated by the actual leftist infiltrators whose existence turns irrational paranoia into reasonable vigilance.
..they only congregate on CoLB and birth announcement threads, let’s us know what it is they fear the most, doesn’t it?
I’m inclined to believe the SEIU people are truly supporting Brown.
One reason among many is the fact that leftists will often go down in a chaotic battle amongst themselves, because of the fact that their global agenda is nothing but a collection of the many smaller agendas of different special interest groups.
This dynamic sets up the inevitable outcome that the various groups will in time come into conflict with one another.
Well FRED, we know who has the deadly ammo on our Narcist. If he forces the Health Care vite, there will be a sramble to get rid of him before 2012, which is where the birther experts come in.
Polarik, Fred Nerks, LucyT, and a score of others could go to Washington, and tell them exactly what they need to do, and where to do it.
You betcha they are worried.Everyone may soon want rid of the idiot.
But your discomfort is quickly eased by the knowledge that conservatives are drawn to ideas rather than to people. Conservatives generally have the intellectual advantage over liberals in that they’re capable of grasping this concept either on a theoretical level or through common sense.
The conservative principles are almost universal among conservatives. Smaller, more insignificant disagreements can occur but if the discussion is properly filtered down to identify the relevant principles, conservatives are more likely to agree with one another even if they first thought themselves in conflict.
Well it should be viewed by everybody. Put you gots to pay to post babe!
With a single post you debut as a troll while simultaneously ending your troll career.
They do appear to have scattered, with a few exceptions.
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