Why Debra Medina's Candidacy For Texas Governor Should Be Nationalized

Economic Policy Journal ^ | January 24, 2010 | Phil Pepin

[Need4Truth]

Debra Medina against all odds is quickly becoming a viable candidate the implications are enormous.

Scott Brown's shocking victory is a mixed blessing for the cause of freedom. On one hand it has put a major roadblock in the path towards Obama Care. On the other hand Scott Brown is a big government Republican. So far there are no signs that true reform is taking place in the GOP. The people in control of the party during the worst two consecutive election cycle defeats in GOP history are still in control of the leadership nationally. This is why a Debra Medina victory is a tremendous opportunity to return to the original constitutionally limited government given us by the founders.

[Need4Truth]

I actually heard a Medina ad on the radio recently. It wasn't bad.

[gibtx2]

waste of time for any conservative when there are so many other real targets..

[SatinDoll]

The problem with Medina is ‘no track record’. She has even less of a background in politics than Obama. Speeches and advertisements mean nothing compared to her background.

Has she been a lifelong, conservative Republican? Or is she a Democrat crossover?

[mnehring]

Debra Medina is no Scott Brown.

[basil]

You’re right—she is no Scott Brown. She’s a REAL conservative.

[mnehring]

lol, funny.. maybe Libertarian, but not Conservative.

[proudtobeanamerican1]

http://www.ohio.com/news/top_stories/82539392.html

Interesting article about Strickland in Ohio with Kasich already passing him up by 6 points.

[ReyTurner]

Debra Medina is AWSOME!!. She is exploding in numbers because Perry is such a total lying phony and Hutchison is a baby killer. Medina is up to 13% and people are talking about this great person. If you can get to You Tube — get there and check her out. SHE IS A BAGGER!!!

[ICCtheWay]

As a Texan, I have listened to Medina on the radio - I have read the transcripts of her speeches ... She is quite acceptable on many subjects...

However Medina is a George W. Bush type softy on Amnesty for illegal aliens... Medina has crafted some very good weasel words on securing the Mexican Border, pathway to citizenship for illegals, etc.

But all she speaks on these subjects are still WEASEL WORDS... and nothing else...

Medina may be good on many Conservative issues — but she WILL NOT face down those Hispanics who want Amnesty for illegals - plain and simple...

As long as Medina has nothing but side tracking Weasel Words on the subject of keeping Illegal Aliens out of Texas and the U.S. and continuing to be non committal on Amnesty - then MEDINA IS NOT ACCEPTABLE... Bottom Line...

I don’t need another George W. Bush pushing me to accept Amnesty for 20 million illegal aliens... not now - not ever...

[Soul Seeker]

Not so much in agreement here. If we are to nationalize a primary, it needs to be McCain vs J.D. A McCain loss would send shockwaves through the Republican establishment.

BTW, in another thread someone said Medina was for open borders. Does anyone have verification of where she stands on that issue? My feeling from the start is to oppose KBH and support Perry by default with room for a third party IF they are conservative and can show they won’t drain votes from Perry but enable KBH to win. But if she is open borders she joins KBH on my “anybody but” list.

[mnehring]

She is open-borders, she falls into the libertarian mold on that like Jesse Ventura’s stance comparing a border fence to the Berlin Wall.

She also is a rank amateur. I heard a story from one of her house parties that she couldn’t even answer simple economics 101 questions.

She is just anti for anti sake.

[omegabea]

No, Gov. Perry would be the Democrat crossover.

Medina’s a former nurse and businesswoman born and raised in South Texas and a strict Constitutionalust who served in Wharton County Republican party and I think played a role in Ron Paul’s successful election to the House of Rep.

Wow, go Saints!

[SatinDoll]

How is she about law and order? And does that include deporting illegal aliens?

[SatinDoll]

ICCtheWay and mnehring state that she is with the open borders crowd and Progressives when it comes to immigration.

She won’t stand up to Hispanic special interests when it comes to deporting illegal aliens.

Sure as hell doesn’t sound like a ‘strict Constitutionalist’ to me!

[omegabea]

Did you see her performance in the gubernatorial debates? If not, I urge you to watch on Jan. 29 before you act on hearsay. You can also read her stand on issues at her site
www.medinafortexas.com

I know she is for closing the border to illegals. She may be very ANTI big government but she is FOR States rights according to the Constitution. I hope you make the effort to find out what kind of governor she would be for Texas.

[Eagle Eye]

Individuals must be held accountable for their actions, and those who break our laws and violate our sovereignty cannot get a free pass, regardless of Our nation has a right to set limits and enforce our laws, but so does our state.

Cultures need time to assimilate, and no nation or state -- not even a state with the resources of Texas -- can bear the cost of free mass medical services for hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants from another nation or free education for thousands of their youth.their circumstances.

http://www.medinafortexas.com/secureBorder

Sounds to me like those claiming she's for open borders are playing Obama with the truth.

[Eagle Eye]

We’ve lost sight of that here in Texas. We’ve surrendered private property ownership to the ever-growing state – we lease our property in the form of ever increasing rents known as property taxes. We’ve forgotten that ownership is an essential element of freedom; that property taxed is not owned at all. We must cherish and protect all property ownership. Jefferson was correct in his writing to James Madison “small landholders are the most precious part of a state.”

http://www.medinafortexas.com/propertyTax

[Eagle Eye]

Protecting freedom requires that the people be well armed. Government cannot protect us from violence, we must defend ourselves. On the essential elements of freedom, we must not compromise and we must not surrender. Texans must not compromise and must not surrender their right to keep and bear arms. We must not only nullify federal laws that threaten that right but encourage citizens to be, as Madison encouraged, “trained to arms, as that is the best and most natural defense of a free country.”

http://www.medinafortexas.com/gunOwnership

[ICCtheWay]

Yes - again as a Texan looking for some alternative to Perry and Hutchinson - I was very disappointed... Hey - I want this woman to work out - I am not knee jerk against her... I was rooting for Medina... until I listened closely ....

I may disagree with her on subjects other than Illegal Aliens, Amnesty, and really really securing the Mexican Border... but I have not found much... but it does not matter ... Weasel words on Amnesty - means NO DEAL.

Bottom Line — Medina would have to renounce - fully and completely any previous half hearted statements on keeping illegal aliens out of the U.S. - on sending illegal aliens back to where they came from... on denying any and all Texas or U.S. benefits to Illegal Aliens - BEFORE I would EVER send her a dime for campaign expenses - or vote for her...

NO MORE RINOS -— not now - not ever....

[Eagle Eye]

But all she speaks on these subjects are still WEASEL WORDS... and nothing else...

I love exposing BSers like you.

[omegabea]

Medina married into a Hispanic family that like all true Texas citizens have no respect nor sympathy for illegals crossing into our state and enjoying our hard earned Tax payer paid services.

I hope you take the time to visit her website and listen to her debate on Jan. 29. We want to be a truthfully informed electorate in March.

[Eagle Eye]

We must demand that our elected officials support and respect the 10th amendment and Texas sovereignty. The U.S. Constitution not only protects citizens' freedoms in the Bill of Rights, it also divides power between the federal and state governments and ultimately reserves final authority for the people themselves. Texas must stop the over reaching federal government and nullify federal mandates in agriculture, energy, education, healthcare, industry, and any other areas D.C. is not granted authority by Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution.

Weasel words?

I have not seen any incumbent Republican speak with such straightforward speech as I have quoted to you from her website.

If there is anyone more straightforward and more Conservative then would you please show me?

[mnehring]

Good triangulated statement for an political website, just like McDonalds’ claiming that they have healthy meal options. When it comes to the details of many of the “how’s” in regard to border security, she falls short.

For example, she opposes Voter photo ID laws which would curtail illegals voting. In an interview with Peter Morrison back in December she also said she only supported a border fence in ‘densely populated urban areas’ but didn’t want us to ‘look like East Germany, surrounded by walls’. In the same interview she also stated she opposed local law enforcement from having authority to enforce immigration laws- the same stance that libs going after Sheriff Joe have.

In her article “Latinos and the GOP” she actually criticized KBH (who I don’t like) for voting against Sonia Sotomayor because she was concerned more about winning the hispanic vote than Sotomayor’s positions. In the same article (Latinos and the GOP), Medina said we need to think about the ‘Latino’ interest in shaping immigration policy.

If anything, she is good at saying all things to all people, so there may be a place for politics for her.

[Eagle Eye]

BTW, in another thread someone said Medina was for open borders.

Wrong, they lied to you.

http://www.medinafortexas.com/secureBorder

[SatinDoll]

I’m glad you brought up Obama. He’s really good at making grand statements he doesn’t believe in. She may just be another one like him - says one thing to get elected but believes something altogether different.

A few on this thread so far claim to have heard her waffle on the issure of enforcing immigration laws before Hispanic crowds.

Having a political record is important. It isn’t just what someone says - it is what they DO while in office. Actions supporting the talk.

How many times have Republicans been burned by someone talking straight-line conservatism who once they got to Washington, D.C., morphed into a liberal?

[Eagle Eye]

When it comes to the details of many of the “how’s” in regard to border security, she falls short.

So who does it better than her? Perry? KBH?

[ICCtheWay]

Just crafty weasel words -

Ask Medina straight out -—

As Governor of Texas - would you support a U.S. Law granting Amnesty to the estimated 20 million illegal aliens or would you work against amnesty...

As Governor of Texas ... would you sign Texas Legislation denying state benefits to illegal aliens in Texas...

As Governor of Texas ... would you sign Texas Legislation denying - absolutely - giving drivers licenses to those who could not produce evidence of U.S. Citizenship...

As Governor of Texas ... would you sign Texas Legislation making it mandatory that voters produce evidence of U.S. Citizenship before being registered to vote and/or allowed to vote in an election...

As Governor of Texas would you sign Texas Legislation reducing the number of entry points from Mexico into Texas...

I challenge you and anyone else to push Medina into a corner on these subject and ASK REAL QUESTIONS - demanding real answers ...

If you do -— you will still get WEASEL WORDS... a la George W. Bush ... my nanny was an illegal alien and I know they are good people... sob sob sob...

NO - NO to ILLEGAL ALIENS - Say it or STFU.

[mnehring]

In regards to border security, at least Perry attempted to initiate Operation Linebacker and move the National Guard to the border. He was blocked by the feds. Medina, on the other hand, doesn’t think it is in the State’s jurisdiction to secure the border (Morrison Report- 12/2009)

Perry sucks at a lot, but better than an amateur who would rather trust the feds to secure Texas.

[is_is]

" So far there are no signs that true reform is taking place in the GOP. The people in control of the party during the worst two consecutive election cycle defeats in GOP history are still in control of the leadership nationally."

this

[basil]

Funny-when she spoke to a group at my house, she had what I though was a very good plan—that made the local sheriffs in the border counties the ones who would have the power to send them back and protect the borders. She was very adamant about it.

[ICCtheWay]

Yes exactly - thank you for helping me make my point — She speaks the WEASEL WORDS I am talking about...

If one REALLY stands strong on an issue - then sidetracking weasel words are NOT NECESSARY ...

JUST SAY IT - No Amnesty ... Close the border, secure the border - and I mean SECURE THE BORDER... stop illegal crossings — all of them - including the vast movement of drugs... and PEOPLE.

[mnehring]

that made the local sheriffs in the border counties the ones who would have the power to send them back and protect the borders. She was very adamant about it.

Which completely contradicts her statement to the Morrison Report back in December when asked "Do you believe that local governments and law enforcement officers have the authority to enforce immigration laws?" she answered "No, believe that immigration law enforcement is clearly the purview and responsibility of federal law enforcement."

..all things to all people.. she will make a good politician.

[Eagle Eye]

How many times have Republicans been burned by someone talking straight-line conservatism who once they got to Washington, D.C., morphed into a liberal?

You tell me.

I'm saying it doesn't happen enough to even talk about.

What does happen is when someone says just enough of good sounding pap to make people hope that they won't get burned by another RINO. Usually it is a moderate with some (lower case) conservative talk that gets people's hopes up.

When was the last time you saw anyone put in writing their views that we need to NULLIFY federal laws in favor of states rights?

When was the last time you saw anyone run for office on the basis of ELIMINATING property taxes?

As far as her reported waffling, as you can see on this thread, people are prone to hear what they want to hear and post what they want to post even if they can't substantiate their claims.

[Eagle Eye]

Immigration SHOULDN’T be a local law enforcement issue but if the feds won’t do it then the locals have to.

I don’t see a contradiction.

I see someone who knows who is supposed to do the job and someone who knows who will have to do the job.

[mnehring]

“The GOP really need look no further than George Lopez’s tear into KBH’s vote against Supreme Court Justice Sotomayor to see an example of the seriousness of potential Hispanic voter back lash. Indeed if Republicans here in Texas expect to win this next election, no longer can the GOP not see the disparity between its future and its rhetoric. No longer can the GOP wait until the fourth quarter to include Latino voters. No longer can the GOP be sideways or indecisive on immigration and border security and other Latino interests as both KBH and Gov. Perry have been.”- Debra Medina

[ICCtheWay]

Yes - Medina stupidly equating a Mexican Border Fence / Wall with the Berlin Wall...

A little education here Ms. Medina — the Berlin Wall was built to KEEP CITIZENS IN East Berlin ... to keep East Germans from getting OUT...

The Berlin Wall was NOT BUILT to keep West Germans out ...

SO STUPID...

A real U.S. Mexico fence / wall - if ever actually built would be done to KEEP ILLEGAL ALIENS OUT of the U.S ... plus keeping Mexican Drug Lord Gang members out ... plus keeping drugs like cocaine out ... plus keeping Americans from being KILLED...

[Falcon28]

Debra Medina is a Paulistinian. No Thanks.

[omegabea]

I just have one question. After nine years as Governor, what makes you think Perry is going to stop the flood of drugs and illegals and killings on the border this time around?

[omegabea]

I don’t know what a Paulistinian is but I wonder why Ron Paul has failed to endorse Medina in her run for office? What does that mean?

[ICCtheWay]

Damn - do you ever READ... PERRY is not acceptable — Hutchinson is not acceptable... Medina is Not acceptable for reasons stated...

I said - from the outset — if you would READ — that I wanted Medina to succeed — UNTIL I read closely what her position was on Illegal Aliens REALLY WAS... not her weasel words...

HELL - I’d vote for anyone — for Texas Governor - even a Democrat — IF they would just oppose Illegal Aliens - oppose Amnesty - and really really secure the Texas - Mexican Border...

Medina - NO
Perry - NO
Hutchinson - HELL NO

Is there a write in candidate for Texas Governor...?

[JoenTX]

Medina?

Had some moments and I like her personally. But, she ain’t ready for primetime. She doesn’t have the grasp of the entire situation needed.

IT IS PERRY. The first vote I ever cast as an adult was for Kay taking Bentson’s seat and I will never regret it. Different times today though as Texas is even more conservative and originalist than it was a decade ago. We want small government, stout borders, and less D.C. than ever before. Leave us alone!

Perry is the best at trying to assure that. Kay, now, unfortunately is not and Debra is a poof........

[deport]

Is there a write in candidate for Texas Governor...?

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Bill White should be available come the general in Nov. Probably be a Libertarian on the ballot also as they usually field candidates to several spots.

[omegabea]

Geez, calm down. I tried to follow the thread and watch the playoff game at the same time. I thought you were putting your trust in Perry to close the borders. I don’t think Medina could do any worse than what we have now, do you?

At least she brings a fresh approach to the problem and maybe you will hear more solutions from her in the upcoming debate. You seem to like her position on states rights, so try to watch the debate next week.

Now go get some rest and chill out.

[Spirochete]

She is open-borders, she falls into the libertarian mold on that like Jesse Ventura’s stance comparing a border fence to the Berlin Wall.

Got proof?

[berdie]

I would love to have an upset in Texas. Someone I would really get excited about voting for.

But for me, Medina ain’t it.

She says a lot of things we want to hear...but can’t be done, IMHO.

Of course, Perry and KBH do the same thing. But I’m not jumping on the “throw them out of office” bandwagon until there is a viable candidate.

[ICCtheWay]

No - you go chill out ... Yes - Medina could do worse... she has an allegiance to Hispanics... Not to ALL THE PEOPLE - ALL THE TIME...

No candidate can ever be allowed again to play ethno-centric political games ... SCREW THE BIG TENT propaganda... Screw Medina -— recruit Americans - with Conservative ideas and ideals...

Perry is a ‘politico’ who breaks all his promises - he is a know entity - Perry can be counted upon to screw us - we see him coming...

Perry will not keep any promises that he made to any group of illegal alien loving Texas Hispanics - unlike Media who has an obligation to do so.

Perry is predictable - Perry is a known jerk who will screw anyone - any group for anything... Perry has become a mostly harmless Toad... his Trans Texas Illegal Alien Highway - went kaput... (despite what Hutchison says in her ads)... And Perry won’t get it back...

Perry can hang around for a few more years - do little harm... wishing and hoping for National political office - all in vain... all the while not realizing that on the national scene - Palin and Brown have made him irrelevant.

Medina just does not understand that WE THE PEOPLE do actually pay attention to the details - especially when the details on certain issues are just WEASEL WORDS...

[SatinDoll]

I’m cynical about potential candidates who don’t have a past voting record with which one can judge true beliefs.

Didn’t Kay B. Hutchison talk like a conservative, too? And how disappointed are conservative Texans with her?

At least she has a record to judge her by before everyone goes to vote this time around. So does Perry. I wouldn’t vote for either, knowing what I know now about their records.

With a new candidate, one you can only judge by their speeches and online statements, it’s like a crap shoot.

Good luck, Texas!

[Eagle Eye]

Didn’t Kay B. Hutchison talk like a conservative, too?

Perhaps like a conserviative but not a Conservative.

Huge difference.

If a Conservative goes squishy the worst they get is conservative.

[omegabea]

You know, we are all united by what we want for Texas and for the nation: safety, prosperity, freedom, pursuit of happiness.

The reason we are engaged in sharing information and posting opinions and comments is because we are all people of action. We don’t sit idly by while we lose our way. We are all trying to chart a course to return to The Bill of Rights set out by the founding fathers.

On that common ground let’s respect one another and join forces without personal affronts to how we are getting there. We have this tool to transmit information and to gather as a united force to direct our state and our nation.
Thank God for the internet.

I appreciate all factual information and if I post something in error I absolutely want to know aboout it. I also want to learn all I can about candidates running for election and about actions being taken that I may be able to join in.

We all know these things...just wanted to post a reminder that we are really on the same page at the most important level.

[patriot08]

What choice do we have?

Medina ad:

“Who is going to think more about Latino families? Rick Perry, Kay Bailey Hutchison or me, who has a Latino family?” (Medina’s cultural heritage is German and Bohemian.)

She told a colleague last month in an e-mail. “Being married, however, to someone with a Mexican American heritage, I certainly embrace the culture.” But before she explained that, she told my colleage, who had asked her whether she considers herself Latina: “I’d not consider myself anything other than a wife and mother, a nurse and a patriot. I believe we too often get into race when it’s immaterial.”

No, Thanks, Mrs Medina.

She is also running Spanish ads. Hello Mrs.Medina! If they cannot speak English then they have no business voting IMO. When they learn English then let them vote. Assimilate. Learn English. Appreciate all America gives you.

So I’m sure she is blowing a lot of hot air just like Obama did just to get elected. Running those ads and saying what she has, tells me the border issue is just a try to get votes for herself.

No, thanks, I’ll stick with ‘ol RINO Perry. Texas has remained in better shape than almost any if not all of the states in the union under Perry's watch. As someone said, 'he's the devil we know'.

The motly crew running for governor is laughable; a MUSLIM, a trecherous RINO woman* (Hutchison) and a woman with questionable loyalties

*Feds Have Built Only 32 Miles of 700 Mile Double-Border Fence Originally Mandated by Congress “One reason DHS has been able to do this is an amendment that Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R.-Texas) slipped into an omnibus appropriations bill that Congress passed on December 18, 2007. Hutchison’s amendment put a loophole in the fence law that allowed the secretary of Homeland Security not to build the fence Congress had mandated the year before.”

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/43422