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Never Laugh at a Narcissist
www.joytiz.com ^ | 1/26/10 | Joy Tiz

Posted on 01/26/2010 2:55:18 PM PST by jazminerose

Narcissists are high maintenance creatures with little hope of changing. The personality disorder is baked into them. Barack Obama shows the thin skinned nature of the narcissist in his responses to criticism.

Narcissists also have no intestinal fortitude for ridicule. Not only does Barack Obama lash out at critics, he is entirely devoid of the kind of self deprecating humor that can be so endearing in people in power.

Obama’s mentor, Saul Alinsky understood the use of ridicule as a weapon: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule.” (Rules for Radicals, Pg. 128).

Early in his presidency, Obama chose Rush Limbaugh as his target of choice. The mission is to get the enemy to react, which gives the revolutionary a measure of power and control over the prey. Alinsky doesn’t address this directly, but it would seem prudent to avoid selecting targets that are smarter than you are. Limbaugh deftly and entirely predictably turned Obama’s provocation into a ratings bonanza.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: alinksy; narcissism; obama

1 posted on 01/26/2010 2:55:19 PM PST by jazminerose
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To: jazminerose
“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon." That's why the Zero artwork gallery exists.

For the whole series of Zero artwork, go here:

"Flickr Archive of Zero Artwork"

2 posted on 01/26/2010 3:00:12 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: jazminerose

3 posted on 01/26/2010 3:07:09 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: jazminerose

Just mock his mom pants.


4 posted on 01/26/2010 3:11:05 PM PST by Eagle Eye (The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.)
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To: jazminerose

5 posted on 01/26/2010 3:11:15 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: jazminerose

Ho!
Ho!
Ho!

;)


6 posted on 01/26/2010 3:20:34 PM PST by gunnyg (Just An Old Gunny ~ And *Still* Not A F'n Commie Basterd!)
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To: jazminerose

I was always amazed at how Obama won by so many people thinking he was a “nice guy”, when it was so obvious to me he was a self absorbed narcissist.

The first thing I ever heard about him in detail was when during the NH primary he followed a reporter into the audience and told her, “I don’t appreciate you making fun of my ears”.

After I noticed in every speech how self important he was, how he continually used the word, “I”, and how he was fixated on his own legend. During his speech on Rev Wright he said, “he disrespected me!” Say it out loud to yourself. It’s impossible to say it without sounding petulant. Yet people were mesmerized by this speech. Chris Matthews was beside himself.

I can understand people falling for a speech, or lies, or whatever, especially when covered up by the press. But how could they think this guy was presidential? He’s so obviously lacking in personal character.


7 posted on 01/26/2010 3:22:54 PM PST by I still care (A Republic - if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin)
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To: Doogle

Wouldn’t it be great if the Republicans just burst out laughing at the first of the Kenyan’s lies during the SOTU? He is such a puss that he’d probably start screaming and it would spiral out of cotrol from there. Heck it’s inevitable that we’re headed for more than verbal conflict with this administration, so why not get to “game on”.


8 posted on 01/26/2010 3:23:06 PM PST by dumpthelibs (dumpthelibs)
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To: dumpthelibs
Wouldn’t it be great if the Republicans just burst out laughing at the first of the Kenyan’s lies during the SOTU? He is such a puss that he’d probably start screaming and it would spiral out of cotrol from there. Heck it’s inevitable that we’re headed for more than verbal conflict with this administration, so why not get to “game on”.

Heck, if I knew this would happen I might actually watch the SOTU tonight.

9 posted on 01/26/2010 3:30:49 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: jazminerose

Say what you want about W., and I’m not fan, overall, but the man could laugh at himself, and did often.


10 posted on 01/26/2010 3:32:26 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: jazminerose

11 posted on 01/26/2010 3:32:26 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: jazminerose
"It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule."

Well for starters...Comedians do it on a regular basis.

The brilliant Rodney Dangerfield disarmed ridicul-ers by ridiculing himself first.

Who is this Saul Alinsky novice anyway? Surely there are better political tacticians out there.
12 posted on 01/26/2010 3:33:32 PM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Travis McGee

Yup. He has a very good sense of humor & no problem laughing at himself.


13 posted on 01/26/2010 3:36:51 PM PST by jazminerose
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To: jazminerose

Here is the actual transcript:

BAMA (off mic): You talked about my ears, and I just want to put you on notice: I’m very sensitive about — What I told them was, ”I was teased relentlessly when I was a kid about my big ears.’”
DOWD (purring): We’re trying to toughen you up…

Frightening for two reasons. It shows Obama oversensative about his personal appearence(never good for a president) and it shows the NY Times actually saying they want him to do better in his desire for the presidency.


14 posted on 01/26/2010 3:37:00 PM PST by I still care (A Republic - if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin)
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To: jazminerose
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
15 posted on 01/26/2010 3:38:51 PM PST by paudio (Road to hell is paved by unintended consequences of good intentions)
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To: dumpthelibs
......the word narcissist was only mentioned sparingly early on......more and more articles are starting to appear. The MSM can't bring it up for fear more people will start to watch and see for themselves....*smiles*...they find themselves in quite a pickle
16 posted on 01/26/2010 3:38:51 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: dumpthelibs

YES!!!!!

That is exactly what we all need to be doing.


17 posted on 01/26/2010 3:59:44 PM PST by jazminerose
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To: jazminerose

Well then, let’s do it!


18 posted on 01/26/2010 4:02:04 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I'm Ellie Light!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Popcorn, we will need popcorn. To set the mood.


19 posted on 01/26/2010 4:11:53 PM PST by jazminerose
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To: dumpthelibs
Wouldn’t it be great if the Republicans just burst out laughing at the first of the Kenyan’s lies during the SOTU? He is such a puss that he’d probably start screaming and it would spiral out of cotrol from there. Heck it’s inevitable that we’re headed for more than verbal conflict with this administration, so why not get to “game on”.

Actually wouldn't it absolutely hilarious if a laughing machine or laughing doll could be hidden in the rafters or some detached room someplace with a mike? And everytime 0bozo started to speak the laughing machine would turn on. I know I'm just fantasizing on this, but Ohhhh I would love to see this happen!!! As the Mastercard commercial says....It would be "Priceless".

Obozo & the demoRATs would be sputtering with rage in their own bile!!!

20 posted on 01/26/2010 4:27:24 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: rcrngroup
My dream is that the Pubbies show up at the sotu in casual clothes, sneakers, etc., and trickle out as the speech drags on, until there are only a handful of Pubbies still int he room ... and most of them appear to be asleep in their seats.
21 posted on 01/26/2010 4:33:13 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: jazminerose

I read all this and more when I was trying to understand my sil..she is hell on wheels and an alcholic in the bargain. Lovely to be around..not. So to keep in touch with my brother, I write to him or email but hardly ever call on the phone and have not been back to TX in 10 years.
If a narcissist is in your family you have to make decisions and sometimes cutting them out is the best thing you can do for your own survival.


22 posted on 01/26/2010 4:41:17 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: jazminerose

It is very easy to "break" a narcissist – even a well-trained and well-prepared one.

Here are a few of the things the narcissist finds devastating:

Any statement or fact, which seems to contradict his inflated perception of his grandiose self.

Any criticism, disagreement, exposure of fake achievements, belittling of "talents and skills" which the narcissist fantasises that he possesses.

Any hint that he is subordinated, subjugated, controlled, owned or dependent upon a third party.

Any description of the narcissist as average and common, indistinguishable from many others.

Any hint that the narcissist is weak, needy, dependent, deficient, slow, not intelligent, naive, gullible, susceptible, not in the know, manipulated, a victim, an average person of mediocre accomplishments.

The narcissist is likely to react with rage to all these and, in an effort to re-establish his fantastic grandiosity, he is likely to expose facts and stratagems he had no conscious intention of exposing.

The narcissist reacts indignantly, with wrath, hatred, aggression, or even overt violence to any infringement of what he perceives to be his natural entitlement.

Narcissists believe that they are so unique and that their lives are of such cosmic significance that others should defer to their needs and cater to their every whim without ado. The narcissist feels entitled to interact or be treated (or questioned) only by unique individuals. He resents being doubted and "ridiculed".

Any insinuation, hint, intimation, or direct declaration that the narcissist is not special at all, that he is average, common, not even sufficiently idiosyncratic to warrant a fleeting interest inflame the narcissist.


23 posted on 01/26/2010 5:02:04 PM PST by blondee123 (Don't blame me, I voted for Sarah !)
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To: paudio
FYI ... I've "indexed" Joanna Ashmun's great article here on Narcissism ... its a quick way to pick a trait, then click on the link and it goes right to that particular section of her article. However, if you are really interested in the subject you should read her entire article ... this link will you to it or to the index for quick viewing: The Patriot's Flag - Narcissism
24 posted on 01/26/2010 5:02:17 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
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To: jazminerose

25 posted on 01/26/2010 5:04:48 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: celtic gal
I read all this and more when I was trying to understand my sil..she is hell on wheels and an alcholic in the bargain. Lovely to be around..not. So to keep in touch with my brother, I write to him or email but hardly ever call on the phone and have not been back to TX in 10 years. If a narcissist is in your family you have to make decisions and sometimes cutting them out is the best thing you can do for your own survival.

My son just divorced & got full custody of his kids, from an alcholic/narcissist. They infect the entire family, no one is spared their rath, lies, manipulations, it's 24/7 drama with them. There is no cure, no hope for them. They are right and everyone else is WRONG! Run, run fast if you think you're involved with one!!!

26 posted on 01/26/2010 5:05:53 PM PST by blondee123 (Don't blame me, I voted for Sarah !)
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To: blondee123

he’s just your average, common, everyday, ordinary socialist...a run-of-the-mill dictator wanna-be...


27 posted on 01/26/2010 5:08:18 PM PST by stefanbatory (Weed out the RINOs! Sign the pledge. conservativepledge.org)
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To: Travis McGee
Say what you want about W., and I’m not fan, overall, but the man could laugh at himself, and did often

Same thing with Ronald Reagan!!! I remember one of his quips at himself (and actually the brilliance of it was to disarm the rabid liberals & lefties & media who tried to get the best of Reagan and NEVER could)....anyway it was in relation to the media & lefties criticizing Reagan for supposedly dozing off in afternoon meetings. Reagan said, "In the event of an emergency, I have given strict orders to be woken up, even if it is in the midst of Cabinet meetings". Classic line of humor by Reagan.

And the liberals & lefties & media sputtered & fumed, but they never counteract or get the better of Ronald Reagan who could disarm their barbs & arrows & hatred with a simple classic self-deprecating humor!!!

0bozo the commie pig usurper & narcissistic pig can't even come close to Reagan (or even GW Bush) in anything. Throw that commie pig bastard out of Washington DC and straight into prision!!!

28 posted on 01/26/2010 6:02:40 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: MHGinTN

Good one!!! I’d go for that. Now if we could only find some pubbies with balls to go along with this (I know there are some pubbies, but not enough. Joe Wilson, Michelle Bachman, Jim DeMint, etc).


29 posted on 01/26/2010 6:07:14 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: blondee123
....a narcissist. They infect the entire family, no one is spared their rath, lies, manipulations, it's 24/7 drama with them. There is no cure, no hope for them. They are right and everyone else is WRONG! Run, run fast if you think you're involved with one!!!

It is incredible, you just described my wife to a tee. We have been separated for 3 years since May 2007, I am trying to decide what to do next (my 3 kids are fortunately 25, 23 & 20 yrs old) and EVERYTHING, I mean EVERYTHING, is a 24/7 drama with her. The last volcanic explosion from her was when I had the oil changed on my daughter's car, after taking her to work & picking her up, and my wife felt that I did not EXPRESSLY ask my daughter's permission to do this...Huh? Volcanic eruption #4,732 I think. I gotta move on, irregardless of losing 1/2 my investments & home. Life with her is a bitch!!! Plus narcissistic people are incredibly emotionally abusive, manipulative & controlling. Her father was a dead ringer narcissistic, manipulative, abusive, controlling demon as well.

30 posted on 01/26/2010 6:16:33 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: rcrngroup

Oh, I miss Ronaldus Magnus!


31 posted on 01/26/2010 6:47:21 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: rcrngroup

During the SOTU everytime Obama mentions my predecessor, the previous administration, or the last eight years, the Pubbies should stand and shout “Bush did it” in unison.


32 posted on 01/26/2010 6:57:16 PM PST by csmusaret (Right wing extremists: Jefferson, Adams, Madison, Paine, and me.)
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To: rcrngroup

You’re right! Reagan used humor brillianty to disarm his opponents.

Remember the “I paid for that microphone” quip?


33 posted on 01/26/2010 7:52:14 PM PST by jazminerose
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To: blondee123

Agreed. Nothing but destruction & abuse come from involvement with a narcissist.


34 posted on 01/26/2010 7:53:39 PM PST by jazminerose
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To: jazminerose

Absolutely!

I was guardian of a malignantly narcissistic child. I raised her from ages 1-17. Her narcissism was apparent almost from her first word - unbelievable self-love, disregard for and abuse of everyone else. She nearly did me in.


35 posted on 01/27/2010 9:44:28 AM PST by rejoicing
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To: rejoicing

Forgot to add, at age 20, she has learned not one thing! She continues to victimize and abuse everyone she meets.


36 posted on 01/27/2010 9:46:26 AM PST by rejoicing
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To: jazminerose

“Never Laugh at a Narcissist”

Well, you can’t kill ‘em, what else you going to do with them?


37 posted on 01/27/2010 9:48:07 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

bump for later read


38 posted on 01/28/2010 8:18:13 PM PST by Freee-dame
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To: All

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39 posted on 09/15/2011 6:13:09 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: blondee123

If what you say in your post is true, it is going to be avery dangerous period from Nov. 5, 2010 to January 20, 2013.


40 posted on 09/15/2011 10:17:34 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: celtic gal
you have to make decisions and sometimes cutting them out is the best thing you can do for your own survival

That's my desire for Obama -- just cut him out of my life, out of my government, and out of my business.

41 posted on 09/15/2011 10:23:14 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: blondee123

I just ran across this post today.

So tell me please .. how we can use it against Obama in a campaign to tip him into expose facts and stratagems he had no conscious intention of exposing.

Very interested since this could be useful in ‘12


42 posted on 09/16/2011 9:07:31 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: I still care
After I noticed in every speech how self important he was, how he continually used the word, “I”, and how he was fixated on his own legend. During his speech on Rev Wright he said, “he disrespected me!” Say it out loud to yourself. It’s impossible to say it without sounding petulant. Yet people were mesmerized by this speech. Chris Matthews was beside himself.

I'm curious about your rather insightful comments. You're right about how the phrase 'he disrespected me' sounds when said out loud. Never been that puffed up before... strange.

Here's my question: What is it in some people that makes them respond like Chris Matthews did - what's going on with people who worship the narcissist? Any insights on that?

43 posted on 09/16/2011 9:15:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (126 people were indicted for being terrorists in the last two years. Every one of them was Muslim.)
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To: GOPJ

I’ve often wondered about this myself. I think it is a lack of character in a personal mode, that has come with the negation of faith and the old “Golden Rule” mentality. The “I am the center of my universe” attitude, and the lack of understanding (a Christian concept) that people in authority are the servants, the washers of the feet, of the ones they serve.

My warning bells go off when I hear someone talking like O does. But obviously other people’s don’t. Christians will say, “I had a check in my spirit”, when they hear something just “off”. But it’s not in man’s nature to spend time listening to their inner self, and one of the big changes of the past hundred years is that it’s not encouraged by the culture. I think more than anything that kind of thought is responsible for the hedonism, the self-absorption of today’s lifestyle.

For instance, did you hear O say the other day, “If you love me, you’ll pass this bill!” If Bush had talked that way, we would never have tolerated it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoJK7PymvtA

Could you imagine Bush out there saying this? It’s just so mindblowingly creepy.


44 posted on 09/16/2011 9:38:34 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: LearsFool
Saul Alinsky wrote the book Rules for Radicals - a book that to this day guides the thinking of most leftists. Hillary Clinton wrote her Master's thesis on Alinsky. He was a community organizer in Chicago in the 40's, 50's and 60's.
45 posted on 09/16/2011 9:40:05 AM PDT by GOPJ (126 people were indicted for being terrorists in the last two years. Every one of them was Muslim.)
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To: jazminerose

This reminds me of people like my boss, who think they have a great sense of humor because when they joke, people bellow with laughter. They never consider that it’s fake laughter, and if you try to tell THEM something funny, they look at you like you just landed from Mars.


46 posted on 09/16/2011 9:46:14 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: I still care
But it’s not in man’s nature to spend time listening to their inner self, and one of the big changes of the past hundred years is that it’s not encouraged by the culture.

Some years back liberals were pushing narcissism as a positive belief system with their 'high self esteem' philosophy. The high self esteem they encouraged had nothing to do with 'earned' self esteem - what they pushed narcissism. I fear if our young people were to 'spend time listening to their inner self" it would be worse. As that 'inner self' has been trained incorrectly.

I followed your Obama "if you loved me' link - it was creepy beyond words.

47 posted on 09/16/2011 10:37:29 AM PDT by GOPJ (126 people were indicted for being terrorists in the last two years. Every one of them was Muslim.)
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