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America is torn between Cowardly Oregon and Proud Nebraska
Big Bureaucracy ^ | Jaanuary 30,2010 | Ellie Velinska

Posted on 01/31/2010 8:03:44 AM PST by Big Bureaucracy

Oregon voters approved tax-hikes for the rich to close their $733 million state budget gap..........Union leaders and local democrats in Oregon cried for weeks how the rich (households earning over $250,000 a year) should pay their fair share or else the whole school system in the state will collapse. Folks in Oregon want their kids educated but apparently majority is not willing to pay extra for it and ordered somebody else to do it.

If they really wanted everybody to pay their fair share they would have voted tax-hikes for everybody not for just for few. Oregon voters decided to tax the evil rich and the out-of-state corporations. The middle class in Oregon wants somebody else to pay extra for the education of their kids. The poor in America don’t pay taxes anyway so their kids were learning on somebody’s paycheck even before the Oregon referendum.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: fair; nebraska; oregon; tax

1 posted on 01/31/2010 8:03:44 AM PST by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy
And Chicago is attempting to recruit businesses from OR that are fed up with the taxes. Of course once those businesses move, either to IL, NV or just across the boarder to WA (although the taxes here aren’t much better) OR will just follow the path of CA and beg for a national bail out.
2 posted on 01/31/2010 8:07:01 AM PST by highlander_UW (There's a storm coming - little kid at a Mexican gas station in The Terminator)
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Why should we be surprised about Oregon? Government schools are our favorite middle-class welfare program. If the issue had been “education”, Nebraska might have done what Oregon did. Conservatives and liberals everywhere vote locally to steal from others for education through bond levies all the time.


3 posted on 01/31/2010 8:09:44 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Oregon must be full ot total nincompoops.


4 posted on 01/31/2010 8:10:14 AM PST by screaminsunshine
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To: screaminsunshine

The rest of the States please make room for those prosperous Oregonians that will be moving to a city near you.


5 posted on 01/31/2010 8:12:22 AM PST by vicar7
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To: dixiechick2000

Whew.


6 posted on 01/31/2010 8:13:38 AM PST by wardaddy (Good Yankees in Massachusetts, I salute you all from bended knee in appreciation)
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To: screaminsunshine

I Guess OREGON is filling up with the CHEAP LIBERALS that realized they can’t afford to LIVE in KALIFORNIYA, anymore.

Move to OREGON, bring their HIGH SPENDING, HI REGULATING TAX POLICIES WITH THEM..

Once they turn OR into CA North.. then I guess they’ll move to WA ..


7 posted on 01/31/2010 8:15:53 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (OBAMA ... Orwell's 1984 was a WARNING ... NOT a TEXTBOOK!!!)
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To: highlander_UW

The businesses won’t be moving anytime soon because they are waiting to see what other states will do. WA state legislators are touting the Oregon law as a good thing. We have no income tax, so they are looking at putting one in, with a much higher rate on the high earners and businesses. Of course even without an income tax, WA state is one of the most highly taxed states in the country. Vermont has the highest as well as the slowest economy.


8 posted on 01/31/2010 8:16:43 AM PST by Eva (Obama bin Lyin)
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To: vicar7

I would get the heck out of there if I made 250k or more.


9 posted on 01/31/2010 8:20:50 AM PST by screaminsunshine
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To: achilles2000

I agree.This is unfortunately true. We all want social benefits, but hope some imaginary rich will pay for it. Long time ago people of America build with their own hands one room schools and those schools gave us enough inspired kids to make the US a superpower. That spirit is gone. Now folks wait for somebody to fix their schools.


10 posted on 01/31/2010 8:23:42 AM PST by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Ben Nelson can’t even go have a pizza in Omaha without getting jeered. He’s burnt toast.


11 posted on 01/31/2010 8:25:28 AM PST by bigbob
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To: highlander_UW

Chicago already got Boeing from WA. It is very possible business to move from Oregon too.


12 posted on 01/31/2010 8:25:53 AM PST by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Eva

This scary prediction, but I agree. Communism is spreading in America


13 posted on 01/31/2010 8:27:40 AM PST by Big Bureaucracy
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To: bigbob

I wish Louisiana and Florida were more vocal against their own sweet deals in the health care reform bill


14 posted on 01/31/2010 8:29:33 AM PST by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy

We all know there is nothing more expensive than free. Those who aren’t paying will continue to ask for more and more; what do they care? It’s all free to them.


15 posted on 01/31/2010 8:33:01 AM PST by tpaige
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To: tpaige

That is true - we need fair tax that has the same rate for everybody - poor will give a cent - but will have to give something to participate in the society.


16 posted on 01/31/2010 8:34:57 AM PST by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Eva
Of course even without an income tax, WA state is one of the most highly taxed states in the country.

And well I know it, I was recently laid off as my job was moved to TN because of the cost of doing business in WA...and this after my previous job at the same company was outsourced to India.

17 posted on 01/31/2010 9:03:26 AM PST by highlander_UW (There's a storm coming - little kid at a Mexican gas station in The Terminator)
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To: Big Bureaucracy

The first thing that the state of Oregon should do as a start to curing all that ails them is to get rid of those hideous day-glo uniforms that the University of Oregon football team wears.

This is the lynch pin to then being able to fix everything else in the state.(;


18 posted on 01/31/2010 9:05:25 AM PST by MGMSwordsman
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To: Big Bureaucracy
Chicago already got Boeing from WA. It is very possible business to move from Oregon too.

Indeed. I remember when that happened and the local politicians acted like it wasn't a big thing, it was just the headquarters...the production remained in WA. I guess executives don't pay taxes and spend money in state in the twisted little minds of progressives.

19 posted on 01/31/2010 9:06:36 AM PST by highlander_UW (There's a storm coming - little kid at a Mexican gas station in The Terminator)
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Conservatives here in Oregon are working hard to change its direction however Portland voters really rule the state here.


20 posted on 01/31/2010 9:07:44 AM PST by Zathras
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To: Big Bureaucracy

15% of the Dead in Portland still vote for the DNC.

Pray for Oregon


21 posted on 01/31/2010 9:09:59 AM PST by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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To: screaminsunshine

There are at least 5 right-wingers here in beautiful Oregon...maybe 6. But when business’ start leaving in greater numbers, that may change.


22 posted on 01/31/2010 9:27:07 AM PST by Imnidiot (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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To: highlander_UW

How are you doing in TN? Is it any better?


23 posted on 01/31/2010 9:38:03 AM PST by Eva (Obama bin Lyin)
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To: Eva
How are you doing in TN? Is it any better?

My job moved to TN, I remained in WA, I wasn't willing to leave my kids for a job nearly 3000 miles away. Ironically, the company I used to work for is the same one that provides employment data that's used by the federal gov't.

24 posted on 01/31/2010 9:41:01 AM PST by highlander_UW (There's a storm coming - little kid at a Mexican gas station in The Terminator)
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To: highlander_UW

I wonder if the company was being pressured to unionize under the SEIU? All government contractors are being forced to unionize under the SEIU to get government stimulus money and even the new tax breaks for small businesses.


25 posted on 01/31/2010 9:48:23 AM PST by Eva (Obama bin Lyin)
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To: highlander_UW

I agree. Class warfare is stupid thing - it shouldn’t be made a policy.


26 posted on 01/31/2010 2:23:08 PM PST by Big Bureaucracy
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To: highlander_UW
I wonder if the company was being pressured to unionize under the SEIU? All government contractors are being forced to unionize under the SEIU to get government stimulus money and even the new tax breaks for small businesses.

I hadn't heard about efforts to unionize, but then again I stayed out of the usual rumor mill group of people. Ultimately, I believe it came down to the fact that the Fed Ex hub is in TN coupled with WA business taxes making the per employee cost higher in WA than TN.

27 posted on 01/31/2010 3:51:33 PM PST by highlander_UW (There's a storm coming - little kid at a Mexican gas station in The Terminator)
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To: wardaddy

The sad thing is that most of the people who will be hurt by Measures 66 and 67 are small businesses. The tax on them is on gross revenues, no matter how the business is doing. I envision a lot of them fleeing across the Columbia River into WA state.

BTW, this was passed because Multnomah County...bastion of all things leftist...voted 71% in favor. There are a lot of stupid, gullible people there.


28 posted on 01/31/2010 8:32:54 PM PST by dixiechick2000
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To: MGMSwordsman

UofO has the ugliest uniforms in the history of football.


29 posted on 01/31/2010 8:34:06 PM PST by dixiechick2000
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To: dixiechick2000

another excuse for you guys to come back to God’s part of the country


30 posted on 01/31/2010 9:29:19 PM PST by wardaddy (Good Yankees in Massachusetts, I salute you all from bended knee in appreciation)
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