Posted on 02/08/2010 12:34:34 PM PST by morgc
From an historical perspective, war and a draft has been the most common solution that Democrats have used to recover from economic Depressions. .....
The lessons of history are very clear; and it is highly unlikely that Obama's socialist mentors have not pounded this lesson deep into Obama's intellect. As the recession deepens into a depression, the solution that has worked in the past is to engage in a war and begin a draft. It worked for Roosevelt, and Obama has attempted to model himself on Roosevelt's mold. The opportunities for war are many, Sudan, Yeman, Iran, even N. Vietnam. Soldiers in the current Army are understandable disgusted with the dithering, the lack of military experience, and the disrespect for the Military that our current President has. Many will not stay voluntarily in the military, nor should they. Obama will need a draft to continue to engage in wars, and a draft would also reduce the number of unemployed,(many permanently).
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Talk of a draft was just a Dem means to bash Bush.
Wouldn’t reviving the draft risk his popularity with the left? Does that answer the question?
Might have to after a DADT repeal.
I wonder how many corpse men Zero will get to enlist?
If he institutes a draft, it will be for his home police force, his version of the Peace Corps, and (oh yeah) some for the military. That way he can get around Leftwing opposition.
I dont think the hippies,libs ..etc will be happy with a draft maybe it was unpopular because Nixon was in power.My question is will they protest the draft under :Obama?
Yeah. The same way he revived his grandmother.
Sure. Why not. He is going to draft all those poor gays that have been so rudely not allowed to join. So, he will draft them into the service. What a guy. The sorry puke never served. Wouldn’t. He was an antiwar coward. But he will draft his gay buddies.
Why institute the draft? Crap, I wish they would raise the age limit to 50 yo.
I think a case has been made that international conflict is not what healed the economies of Roosevelt and Johnson.
It only helped their PR positions.
Obama gives a speech to the “Corpse Men” and insults them to their face:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxORB49KtsE
My children won’t serve under this creep. I will personally move them to Canada if this ever happens.
State slavery.
The left thinks a draft is a great idea apparently.
Please, God, let him try.
He is the Peace Man of Nobel renown.
FDR drafted men because he HAD to. Fighting Hitler and Tojo was not an option. I don’t believe for a moment that the Korean War made Truman popular or brought prosperity. It ain’t called “the Forgotten War” for nothing.
I don’t know enough about the draft during the early sixties but JFK never imagined Vietnam would grow to become what it became.
Does the prez have the authority to call people up all by himself? I think Congress has to be involved in this somewhere.
Does anyone here think Obama has the political capital left to march us into war, now? Let alone creating his private army? I think any such moves would be the much-wished-for pretext for the dems to call for his impeachment before November.
Direct hit.
Sounds like another arrow from the Cloward-Piven quiver — choke the system with so much undigestible riff-raff that it cannot function.
My son won’t get his commission until 2013. Zero will be history by then.
WTF?
It worked fine with Kennedy in 61’. I’m all for it, only because it leaves a large body of veterans who can be recalled if needed to serve or train. But then again, it might cause other problems, the kids of today may have to give up their computer gaming and texing time.
1) It will decrease the effectiveness of our military force. They think that's good.
2) It will make it very hard for any politician to actually use the military. That's a plus, right?
3) Military personnel can be used as a giant Peace Corps to go around fixing the world and making people love us.
4) With a little fiddling with laws, the armed forces can be used at home to round up and exterminate the political opposition.
“Why institute the draft? Crap, I wish they would raise the age limit to 50 yo”.
...I’m with you! Two years ago, when I was 49, I checked into the age requirements and am out of luck.
For your son's sake I hope and pray for that.
Fine...let them get drafted and dig ditches (in his version of a “National Civilian Defense Force”, or whatever)
My son (a volunteer, of course) flies an F-15E Strike Eagle.
Been over Fallujah, and Afghanistan, going back soon to Afghanistan).
The ground crews who take care of his plane (I have met some of them) are the salt of the earth.
I don’t want some f’n draftee taking care of his plane. It’s pretty easy to frag a plane).
My oldest tried to join and was turned down. Now they won’t get either of them.
I want to see his SS number first.
don’t forget it won’t be so “racist” and full of poor people if there is a draft.
The left thinks that is a wonderful thing.
Its still state slavery.
Of course they like the idea of a draft (but not for them). They are for subjection in any form for the public to do their bidding. They pretend to not understand freedom and liberty. They are Traitors to the Nation.
For some years now, the same few Demwits in Congress have introduced at least one bill each year to revive the draft. Thanks morgc.
They know exactly what people’s political views are: the ones willing to defend the Constitution will be shipped overseas; the clueless and leftists ones will be kept at home to do Dear Leader’s bidding.
If he jams through gays openly in the military, he will need a draft.
With his new gay friendly policy, he’ll either need a draft to get troopees ( new term for soldier)or San Fran will have enlist in masse.
Is this a reference to him taking his ear plugs out?
It was those two rat$%#@$ Johnson and McNamara who tied the hands of the military and never gave them a clear mission.
I know that I am in a minority amongst my FR bretheren but I maintain that a draft is beneficial to Americans in that it creates an environment in which the various social classes meet and work amongst each other. And I think that is a good thing.
The OldPossum was in a military outfit in which he, as a young high school graduate, worked with and bunked with college graduates. It gave him the inspiration to go to college after military service. That worked out and led to a nice professional career.
Another facet to be considered is that a draft (aside from its coersive aspects) forces every young man to serve his country in the military, and I maintain that that is good, both for the individuals and for the nation as a whole. As an aside, it would lead to more military veterans in our political population; I understand that fewer and fewer in Congress are military veterans.
Go ahead, flame. The OldPossum can take it.
Draft = I don’t want to be here = Mission Compromised
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5. political indoctrination. They will set aside “Don’t ask Don’t tell.” Then when enlistments crash, they’ll insitutute a draft. Anybody unlucky enough to get snared into Obama’s uniformed services will be forced to put up with all manner of immoral behavior.
The OldPossum was in a military outfit in which he, as a young high school graduate, worked with and bunked with college graduates. It gave him the inspiration to go to college after military service. That worked out and led to a nice professional career. .................................. You aren’t really in a minority, I was one of those E-1 College Grads, even though I did everything I could to stay out of it, got married, became a teacher, and I thought I was in the clear. Not! Served 2 yrs as an enlisted man with mostly draftees in my company. NEVER A PROBLEM. Do your job and count the days left to get out was the attitude. The problems were weeded out in basic training. I lived in a basic training unit at that time. When Nam got hot they started to accept category 5 draftees, these turned out to be the few bad ones that gave the draft the bad reputation. i.e. bringing in a soldier with a prior drug history. Geeez, bring him in, send him to Nam, and he finds himself in doper heaven. Who woulda thunk that woulda been a potential problem? You have to remember, 2/3rds of WW II vets were draftees, was there a problem then?

"There was one?"
Thanks for the comments. I suppose I’m not totally alone in my views.
You noted that about two-thirds of World War II soldiers/sailors were draftees. I can believe that. My father was drafted and served, as did three of five uncles. Two others enlisted. All had positive experiences, with no serious wounds even. Couple Purple Hearts, though.
And Vietnam?
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