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To: Darth Reardon; All

FACT 1) There are about 600,000 CCW holders in PA.

FACT 2) It is perfectly legal to drink while carrying and there is no limit to drink while carrying in PA.

Please show me the shootings by those who are drunk. It doesn’t happen. These sort of nonsensical laws should never be supported by gun owners.


13 posted on 02/09/2010 11:17:18 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Being drunk and carrying a gun do not mix. Just ask actor Rip Torn.

“LITCHFIELD - Actor Elmore “Rip” Torn thought he was in his own house Friday night when he was found inside the Litchfield Bancorp in Salisbury with a loaded revolver, his lawyer said today.

“Obviously, he wasn’t there intending to commit a crime,” said his lawyer, A. Thomas Waterfall, during Torn’s arraignment in Superior Court in Bantam.

Torn never pointed the gun at anyone or held it in a threatening matter, Waterfall said.

Police went to the bank at 326 Main St. around 9:45 p.m. Friday after an alarm went off. Inside the back door, on the floor, a state trooper found a wool hat, a pair of brown boots and glass from a broken window.

Trooper James L. Parker then walked in and saw “a white male walking around in the lobby of the teller area,” according the arrest report.

The man, who police identified as Torn, looked “unsteady on his feet” and his fly was down, the trooper wrote.

“Get down!” Parker yelled. Torn didn’t listen, and the trooper had to force him to the floor, the report states.

While searching Torn, Parker noticed a few things: He seemed disoriented, he smelled of alcoholic beverages and he had a loaded, H&R model 929, 22-caliber revolver in his right, jacket pocket.

Torn then started questioning Parker and the troopers who backed him up at the scene, Parker wrote.

“Torn asked why we took him out of his house,” the report states. “Torn repeatedly asked why we placed him in handcuffs and when we informed him that he was in a bank carrying a gun he would ask the same question again.”

When Parker took Torn out of the bank, he had to hold him up so he wouldn’t fall, he wrote. Later, at the police barracks, he was asked if he wanted to contact someone or an attorney, the report states, but Torn answered that he didn’t have anyone to call.

His blood alcohol content was .203, more than twice the legal limit of .08.”


15 posted on 02/09/2010 1:15:08 PM PST by Sasparilla
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To: Red in Blue PA; Beelzebubba

We’re saying the same thing.

The post I replied to said that carrying while drunk is equivalent to DRIVING drunk. I said it was equivalent to having (or being in) a car while drunk. Big difference, IMO.


17 posted on 02/09/2010 2:05:36 PM PST by Darth Reardon (Im running for the US Senate for a simple reason, I want to win a Nobel Peace Prize - Rubio)
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