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Glenn Beck Sucker Punches Texas Candidate Debra Medina
JohnJacobH RKBA Commentary ^ | 02/11/10 | JohnJacobH RKBA Commentary

Posted on 02/11/2010 8:23:54 PM PST by Copernicus

Like the true gentleman he is, The Welshman from the Liberty Sphere CLICK LINK HERE comes to the aid of a lady in distress. Kudos to him!

There is something squirrely about the whole Glenn Beck phenomenon and it maybe time to examine this so- called conservative who sheds crocodile tears on Television and surrounds himself with a radio pack of wannabe Howard Stern Hyenas.

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TOPICS: Government; Outdoors; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; beck; ccw; medina; paulestinians; rkba; troofers; truthers; txgov2010
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I heard part of this interview live this morning, Glenn Beck was not at his best.

Best regards to all,

1 posted on 02/11/2010 8:23:54 PM PST by Copernicus
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To: Copernicus

With all due respect, she sucker punched herself - and I’ll still vote for her.


2 posted on 02/11/2010 8:25:43 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: achilles2000

I heard it, he wasn’t grilling her. Her answer sunk her.


3 posted on 02/11/2010 8:29:49 PM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: Copernicus
Bad article, it makes a claim, but doesn't quote either
Beck Or Medina. From what I heard, it was a simple yes or no answer, she choose not to answer it with a simple no, leaving the door open to label her a truther.
IMHO truthers are full fledged nuts...
4 posted on 02/11/2010 8:31:34 PM PST by Robbin (If Sarah isn’t welcome, I’m not welcome, it’s just that simple…)
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To: Copernicus

Here’s part of the interview. She did a horrible job and Glenn, as usual, was hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j2Ov6u9e38


5 posted on 02/11/2010 8:32:01 PM PST by Engineer_Soldier (http://www.rlc.org/ (The Republican Liberty Caucus))
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To: Copernicus

It was a legitimate question.

She obviously wasn’t prepared for it.

She shouldn’t try to explain anything, just say NO.

I dunno if she can regain what she loses from this.


6 posted on 02/11/2010 8:32:14 PM PST by GeronL (Dignity is earned from yourself. Respect is earned from others.)
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To: Engineer_Soldier

Glenn couldn’t believe the answer he got.


7 posted on 02/11/2010 8:32:47 PM PST by GeronL (Dignity is earned from yourself. Respect is earned from others.)
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To: Copernicus

He asked her a simple question. She just blew it herself.
There was no sucker punch from anybody.


8 posted on 02/11/2010 8:34:04 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Copernicus

We’ve got to know everything there is to know in order to make choices.

That’s what media is supposed to do for us — expose it all.

We’re empowering representatives to make decisions in our name.

Let’s hear it all.

Better now than later by the other side.


9 posted on 02/11/2010 8:34:31 PM PST by Bhoy
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To: Copernicus
Transcript of interview:

GLENN: I have when I said that I was going to have you on, you can't imagine the mail pro and con that I received. There was a theme that ran against you and that is you are a 9/11 Truther.

MEDINA: Well, there's lots of mud that people would like to throw at Debra Medina and make stick. The truth is I'm an everyday ordinary person. I am fighting for the things that our founders fought for, those very basic principles of a constitutional republic, and I'm going to champion people that hold their government accountable, hold me accountable but that's the first time I've heard that accusation. So that's an interesting one.

GLENN: Right. Here's then let me be more frank and ask you the question: Do you believe the government was any way involved with the bringing down of the World Trade Centers on 9/11?

MEDINA: I don't, I don't have all of the evidence there, Glenn. So I don't I'm not in a place, I have not been out publicly questioning that. I think some very good questions have been raised in that regard. There are some very good arguments, and I think the American people have not seen all of the evidence there. So I've not taken a position on that.

GLENN: I think the people of America might think that might be a yes.

MEDINA: Well

10 posted on 02/11/2010 8:35:35 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: UB355

If you could call it an answer. She just starting blabbering...we all have bad moments. I guess this was hers, and it has probably sunk her ship.


11 posted on 02/11/2010 8:36:53 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Copernicus

The lady’s a truther. He treated her with the respect she deserved.


12 posted on 02/11/2010 8:38:58 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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The source to this article has links on their blog.
One is the anti war, 9/11 Truther Lew Rockwell.
It really piles up for Medina.
She thought she could fool the voters she was a Republican
but is a Truther Libertarian in RINO clothes.


13 posted on 02/11/2010 8:39:04 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Copernicus

She’s a Truther.


14 posted on 02/11/2010 8:39:20 PM PST by WackySam (To argue with a man who has renounced his reason is like giving medicine to the dead.)
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To: GeronL

It was hilarious! He kept trying to tell her she answered the question already - trying to save her from herself. Then, the post interview commentary was beautiful. I grew up the first part of my life in Texas, but I’d hate to have to choose between the two RINO leaning front runners and the nutball she seemed to be. I’m now a Florida voter and the choice is clear in our hotbed election - Rubio over RINO Crist.


15 posted on 02/11/2010 8:39:50 PM PST by Engineer_Soldier (http://www.rlc.org/ (The Republican Liberty Caucus))
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To: Yo-Yo

That doesn’t read like a sucker punch.


16 posted on 02/11/2010 8:42:56 PM PST by SoDak (bitter clinger)
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To: Copernicus

Medina’s answer was the dumbest mistake since Mccain canceled his campaign to go to Washington only to end up voting for the bailout.


17 posted on 02/11/2010 8:44:12 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: SoCalPol
The source to this article has links on their blog. One is the anti war, 9/11 Truther Lew Rockwell. It really piles up for Medina. She thought she could fool the voters she was a Republican but is a Truther Libertarian in RINO clothes.

The sources site also links FR as a "message board." What's with that?

18 posted on 02/11/2010 8:44:19 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: Copernicus
I posted this comment on another thread and I'm going to post it again here.

Her hesitation to answer one way or the other makes me think she was quickly reviewing in her mind all of her previous statements on the subject to weigh whether or not those statements could be held against her.

If you have to pause to think about what you've said previously and whether or not it can be used against you, then you are probably lying. That's my gut feeling on this one.

I just don't think she went into an interview with Glen Beck ill-prepared. She shined in the debates. She was prepared and focused. There's no way this was an off-the-cuff mistake. She hesitated because she knew she'd said something to someone that could hurt her politically.

19 posted on 02/11/2010 8:44:28 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: Yo-Yo

Wow she is a real nutcase.


20 posted on 02/11/2010 8:45:40 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Robbin

I get the impression a supporter got his panties in a wad when she stepped in it - and she stepped in it bigtime. Whoever she is, and whatever else she represents, her non-responsive answer would earn a quick and decided kiss off from me.


21 posted on 02/11/2010 8:48:54 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Yo-Yo
I think some very good questions have been raised in that regard. There are some very good arguments I bet she doesn't even know what Truthers have claimed. Suspect she was trying to play it safe. Do what our schools teach...never judge anything. 99% of the time that is the safe way to handle things. Spineless but safe. This time wasn't.
22 posted on 02/11/2010 8:49:27 PM PST by Brugmansian
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To: Pantera; TWfromTEXAS; BoringGuy; Richard Kimball; girlscout; omegabea; Warrior_Queen; erkyl; ...
I know - the Medina pings are getting a little stale. Sorry - just trying to ping you to all election-related threads.

Ping

Freepmail me or ping me from the original thread to get on/off the 2010 Texas Gubernatorial Race ping list.

23 posted on 02/11/2010 8:49:52 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: Copernicus
So where is the sucker punch? I'd call that a softball question.

And she answered according to her beliefs...I think the American people have not seen all of the evidence there. So I've not taken a position on that.

"It's a 'my Muslim faith' and '57 states' moment for Debra. Texas voters are fortunate to know where she stands - those voters that didn't already know.
24 posted on 02/11/2010 8:50:56 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: SoDak

Vote Perry


25 posted on 02/11/2010 8:51:22 PM PST by factmart
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To: achilles2000
With all due respect, she sucker punched herself - and I’ll still vote for her.

I think it has to do with the way technical people look at the world.

If you listen to the links thoughtfully provided you hear her say quite simply she DOES NOT HAVE A POSITION.

Is this a bad public relations move? In the context of the current public debate probably so.

People who think technically will admire her straight forward answer, all the other usual suspects who can not think technically will scratch their brainwashed heads.

If the answer is not no, you must be crazy.

A society that exalts philosphers because philosophy is a high calling and denigrates plumbers because plumbing is a lowly trade will have neither pipes nor theories which hold water.

Best regards,

26 posted on 02/11/2010 8:51:24 PM PST by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: factmart

A lesson for the Tea Party movement. They need to begin to be more careful about who they let out front as a “leader”. This truther is just embarrassing.

I give Beck credit for exposing the nut before we end up with a Texas version of John Edwards.


27 posted on 02/11/2010 8:55:34 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: Copernicus

Ah yes, that entire statement you gave just reminded me of Obama. It boils down to we just don’t “get it” right?

We understand. We understand she either believes it herself or she refuses to denounce it since the bulk of her support comes from them. Either way she punched herself. For sane people not beholden to the insane it’s an easy yes or no question even from a “technical” standpoint from which this insanity has been debunked again and again.


28 posted on 02/11/2010 8:57:32 PM PST by Soul Seeker (?)
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To: GeronL

The first thing I notice in an interview is when the interviewee refuses to answer a Yes-or-No question, answering instead with a canned paragraph. I notice that Democrats NEVER answer with a Yes or No. Republicans almost never.


29 posted on 02/11/2010 8:58:28 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Copernicus

Yes, if you listen carefully she said she didn’t have a position, but she followed up afterwards with a press release saying she is not a Truther. I have no reason to disbelieve her denial, but the KBH and Perry supporters have been saying that her answer to Beck was affirmative and that the immediate clarification is a deception.

She bungled the interview, and it is a shame. Still, giving a bad interview is far less a fault than the years of betrayal that Perry and KBH have given us.


30 posted on 02/11/2010 9:00:12 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: All

I had planned to vote for Medina, even though I didn’t think she would beat Perry.

I want Perry to get a message, he’s been too much of a rino.

Her answer bothers me. I don’t buy the truther stuff, I do not think our gov’t was involved.

There are a couple of interesting questions the truthers raise or ones that haven’t been addressed completely.

Medina stepped in it, she tends to want to talk a little more than nessasary to directly answer the question.

I noticed that in one of the debates. Looks like that bit her in the butt.


31 posted on 02/11/2010 9:01:01 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Copernicus
Debra ... just say NO
32 posted on 02/11/2010 9:01:29 PM PST by tx_eggman (Obama has "Czars" because men with more integrity than he has still use the titles "Don" and "Capo")
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To: Soul Seeker
Ah yes, that entire statement you gave just reminded me of Obama. It boils down to we just don’t “get it” right?

In the interests of full disclosure you will of course answer the oldest political question of all:

When did you stop beating your wife?(Husband)?

Best regards,

33 posted on 02/11/2010 9:03:25 PM PST by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Copernicus
People who think technically will admire her straight forward answer,

If it were a straight forward answer, why did she feel the need to refute it later?

philosophy is a high calling and denigrates plumbers because plumbing is a lowly trade

Everyone is a philosopher and no one needs them but not every one IS a plumber and everyone NEEDS them. Lowly trade?

If you have to work so hard to decide what she meant and hope others see it your/her way .... well, good luck, Texas!
34 posted on 02/11/2010 9:03:36 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Copernicus

Noboby can “Sucker Punch” me and win. She either said something stupid or she didn’t. The School began early and as far as I can tell it is still on. If the left cannot explain their standing they are no longer in school.


35 posted on 02/11/2010 9:04:16 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: achilles2000
we all have bad moments.

Bad moments? The ONLY answer to that question is "No, Glenn. I am not a truther."
36 posted on 02/11/2010 9:04:27 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (This nation must not die on our watch.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
answering instead with a canned paragraph.

If you can't convince them, you confuse them in play.
37 posted on 02/11/2010 9:06:42 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Engineer_Soldier
the two RINO leaning front runners

How is Perry a RINO?
38 posted on 02/11/2010 9:07:35 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (This nation must not die on our watch.)
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To: berdie

later


39 posted on 02/11/2010 9:13:17 PM PST by berdie (Hey, Bill Mahr...That's Mrs. Cracker to you.)
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To: Kerretarded
"Oh hell no!" is also acceptable LOL...
40 posted on 02/11/2010 9:17:32 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Engineer_Soldier
I'm a Texan who spent 10 years in Florida. I'm a big fan of Rubio.

You need to get rid of Grayson too though.

41 posted on 02/11/2010 9:17:57 PM PST by GunRunner
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To: Kerretarded

Yes, that is the only good answer. She obviously hasn’t done much big media, and there were other things besides the Truther issue that showed how nervous she was. One tip-off is that she wasn’t listening to Beck, and consequently was talking over him. Apparently, she doesn’t understand that unlike TV radio has no visual clues so you must listen.

As someone who has done a fair amount of radio and television, I can tell you that this is not uncommon. She wasn’t prepared for the question, wasn’t prepared for the medium, and failed to give a good answer. The press release that came out almost immediately after the interview I am sure reflects her actual view - she is not a Truther, but she bungled the interview and the damage was done.

I think the question was fair. Moreover, even if it hadn’t been asked, she was not doing well with Beck and it would have been a poor interview anyway (though not as bad as it was). I haven’t seen anyone comment on that, but if you go back and listen I think you’ll agree that the non-Truther part left a lot to be desired.


42 posted on 02/11/2010 9:18:05 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Copernicus

I am a trained scientist and engineer, educated to think critically and technically.

An, using my trained technical thinking faculties, the only conclusions that I can reach is that Medina is: a) too simple minded to aspire to a governorship. (maybe she could be a foil for Joy Behar or Rosie O’Donnell) and b) that she is incapable of giving a straight yes or no to a simple question but instead professes to be incapable of concluding on the basis of common sense and the evidence of our senses that the US government would not and could not have conspired to allow 9-11.

With respect to “truthers” in general, it is clear to me that they are not crazy, they are merely stupid and unable to follow facts and logic. If Medina is one of them, and it appears that she is, then she does not deserve your vote or anyone’s vote.

Really - saying that you have no position on the culpability of the US government in a conspiracy to murder thousands of its own citizens is the equivalent of having no position on morality of murder. It is MORONIC.


43 posted on 02/11/2010 9:20:18 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: Kerretarded

How is Perry a RINO?

He’s not a RINO; he’s a semi-RINO - good on life and gun issues. BUT, he and the Republican establishment have regularly betrayed us on spending, taxes, property rights, border enforcement, and other issues.


44 posted on 02/11/2010 9:29:49 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Patrick1

No offense intended, Patrick1.

I’m tiring of FR posters indicating that Medina is supported by the Tea Party patriots. ...I’ve heard many of her radio interviews and saw the first TV debate (where she just kept repeating her memorized talking points instead of answering questions).

It’s the Paulbots that are pushing Medina, not Tea Party supporters. She is a Libertarian like Ron Paul and her backers would dearly love to get a devout Libertarian into the Governor’s seat. She is also constantly playing the race card because she married someone with an hispanic surname and figures that will bring extra votes. ...I don’t believe her experience as a nurse would be beneficial to the State of Texas in the position of Governor.


45 posted on 02/11/2010 9:37:40 PM PST by octex
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To: achilles2000

Rick is my guy .. this is a wasted vote.


46 posted on 02/11/2010 9:40:01 PM PST by gibtx2 (keep up the good work I am out of work but post 20 a month to this out of WF Check)
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To: achilles2000

This was a political “mob hit” if I ever saw one.

Glenn’s always said some pretty wacky theories himself, but people still listen to him.

Here’s a conspiracy theory for you. Good ol’ fashioned dirty politics. Exactly what Glenn’s been talking about all these years and HE is the hit man. He even touted how he liked Perry and hung out with him before he brought Medina on. He said he doesn’t endorse anybody? If that wasn’t an endorsement I don’t know what is.

I believe this was put on by the old guard Republicans here in TX ala the Perry camp. They were getting scared and needed to release the dogs on Medina. Wow! This is our TX Republican party. No wonder I left.

Sorry Ricky. I’ll take a wack job over a “tax-and-steal-your-land” job any day. I’m STILL voting Media!


47 posted on 02/11/2010 9:44:40 PM PST by fox-one
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To: Kerretarded
How is Perry a RINO?

From what I've read, he has completely failed to secure the border, and worse, he actually showed support of Bush amnesty. Also, he allegedly made mandatory the immunization of young teen girls against STD's and removed the choice from parents. I don't count plain failures to push his agenda on him because, like a president, he's reliant on a congress due to the wonderful checks-and-balances we've modeled nationwide. But supporting amnesty and being the person who signs a law like mandating parents immunize their children against an STD is very liberal and those decisions - if true - came down to his signature.

48 posted on 02/11/2010 9:52:40 PM PST by Engineer_Soldier (http://www.rlc.org/ (The Republican Liberty Caucus))
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To: Copernicus

I heard the entire show this morning.

No sucker punch, and Medina didn’t come off too good herself.


49 posted on 02/11/2010 9:52:46 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: GeronL

IMO, her inability to respond to a legitimate question was only the tip of the iceberg.


50 posted on 02/11/2010 10:00:08 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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