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Good RINO Hunting
Western Hero ^ | 19 February 2010 | silverfiddle

Posted on 02/19/2010 8:57:39 AM PST by foutsc

Sarah Palin just came out and told us it's time to pick a party, and she is absolutely right...

Republicanism is not Conservatism

We all have our own ideologies.  When they broadly overlap with others we make common cause via a political movement or party.  Our two major political parties only imperfectly concord with ideology.  Rather, they are the two vessels, right and left, that carry candidates to victory or defeat.  They are the two big tents. 

Given this True or False question, the only right answer for a conservative is the GOP.

I think we criticize politicians too much for not matching our ideology perfectly, for not being pure.  Meanwhile, we fail to criticize them for their serial constitutional infidelities.

Scott Brown is a GOP hero for wrenching the "Ted Kennedy" seat from the liberals' grimy clutches, but he wouldn't play well in Texas.  The south has many fine conservative congressmen and senators who proudly put Christianity and family values first, but Christian credentials don't carry you too far here in the Mountain West. 

Congressmen and Senators Serve Their States

If you believe in federalism, where the federal government restricts itself to its constitutional duties and leaves the heavy lifting to state and local governments, you cannot argue that Meg Whitman is too liberal to be the GOP nominee for governor of California, or that Carly Fiorina is too liberal to be the GOP senate candidate from that same state.  Senators and congressmen serve their states, and their politics will reflect the sentiments of those who elect them. 

The ACU Ratings:  Who are the True Conservatives?

The American Conservative Union publishes the gold standard of conservative measurements, ranking every congressman and senator based upon how each voted. 

Barbra Boxer is a zero (in more ways than one), and constitutional conservative Jim DeMint is around 98%.  The much hated Lindsay Graham scored a perfect 100% in 2008.  I don't believe he should be banned from the club because he has strayed on the one issue of global warming.

RINO Safari

The lifetime scores of Senators Snow and Collins of Maine both hover around the low side of 50%, in a state where the two liberal Democrat congressmen score a 6% and 12%.  These good women are walking a political tightrope, but they're on our side (Dems have heavily courted them).  If they both were Democrats, Obama and Harry Reid would still have a a 61 vote supermajority in the Senate.   

It's time we cut fellow Republicans some slack

Yes, conservatives, you're Republicans.  Who else are you going to vote for?  Politics is about gaining power so you can implement your ideas.  You do that by winning elections, not by "making a statement" with your independent party that steals 8% of the vote and throws the election to the Democrat (Bill Clinton never got 50% of the vote thanks to third-partiers).

The primaries are the arena to fight it out.  Proof:  Marco Rubio is now beating squishy moderate Charlie Crist. 

We need to hold the feet to the fire of those we elect.  We must invade the GOP and insist it stand for constitutional conservatism.  We also need robust internal debate, but let's save our outraged cries of "RINO!" for the rare Scozzafava, and stop anathematizing each other. 

Do you want the power to make the changes our nation needs?  Or do you want the smug satisfaction of being a pure but powerless minority?


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: conservatives; ideology; palin; republicans

1 posted on 02/19/2010 8:57:40 AM PST by foutsc
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To: foutsc

Methinks the author protests too much.

The Republican party needs to be nervous for awhile. Kind of like our government needs to fear us as opposed to the other way around. Both seem to work a hell of a lot better when they are fearful - makes them respect their real bosses a little more. Keeps them more focused on the right thing to do, when they feel that way and we’re watching them closely.


2 posted on 02/19/2010 9:04:00 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: foutsc

The only ‘fundamental change’ to our constitution I would agree to is to re-vote until somoene acheives over 50% majority- with a run-off of the top 2

Clinton won with only 40-some percent of the vote because perot split the Bush vote.

McLame won the primaries even though MOST people voted for other candidates, the the conservative candidate usually drawing heavily. All it took as a handlful of democraps voting for him in our ‘open’ primaries to make him the higest vote getter- even though a mojority chose someone else. (ok thats TWO things we need to change NOW! TODAY!!)

If we can’t do this at the federal level we should AT LEAST do this in our own GOPO primary process


3 posted on 02/19/2010 9:05:20 AM PST by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

The GOP needs to be perpetually nervous.


4 posted on 02/19/2010 9:07:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: foutsc

Time is running out. We have to fight against RINOs and Democrats. That includes the spineless Blue Dogs.


5 posted on 02/19/2010 9:09:29 AM PST by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
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To: foutsc

“The most conservative person who can win”

That’s where my vote goes.


6 posted on 02/19/2010 9:10:53 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Liberal Massachussetts says: "FUBO!")
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To: foutsc
Republicanism is not Conservatism

It's time we cut fellow Republicans some slack

Yes, conservatives, you're Republicans. Who else are you going to vote for?

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This is why a third party is desperately needed. The Conservatives will form their own party. The liberal Republicans will then move to the Democrat party, where they belong. The Republican party will then be defunct. We will then be back to a two-party system. Only this time it will be the Liberals (Democrats) and the Conservatives.

7 posted on 02/19/2010 9:20:19 AM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Be strip-searched by scanners! Buy ObamaCare or go to jail! The Totalitarians are in charge!!!)
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To: cripplecreek

I think it will help them stay focused on the proper priorities and have a healthy respect for conservatives and their beliefs.

Combine that with not donating to any RNC PAC and instead donating to individual conservative candidates and I think this will be fairly successful.


8 posted on 02/19/2010 9:24:39 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: foutsc

Utah is a good place to start:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2454959/posts


9 posted on 02/19/2010 9:25:37 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: foutsc
If you believe in federalism, where the federal government restricts itself to its constitutional duties and leaves the heavy lifting to state and local governments, you cannot argue that Meg Whitman is too liberal to be the GOP nominee for governor of California, or that Carly Fiorina is too liberal to be the GOP senate candidate from that same state.

We can argue any damn thing we please. If a RINO really is the best reflection of that state's voters at that time, then the RINO will win. But if conservatives vote for the RINO out of fear, then the voting won't actually reflect the views of the state's voters.

I believe in the right of "moderate" Republicans to vote for RINOs if they choose. Conservatives have the same right, though. That includes the right to vote against RINOs, in a primary and/or in the general election.
10 posted on 02/19/2010 9:27:08 AM PST by Eagle Forgotten
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To: Uncle Miltie

Unfortunately you can’t count on the GOP to do the same.

Conservative republican Tim Walberg Challenged RINO Joe Schwarz in 06 and won. The GOP gave minimal support to Walberg in the general election but he still managed to win. Walberg served one term before being stripped of funds by the NRCC in the final week of the 08 election. Walberg lost by a whopping 2% of the vote.

Today, Walberg leads the incumbant democrat Mark Schauer by around 10 points in early polling and the NRCC is very slowly ramping up their support. They invited an inexperienced republican to move here and run against him in the primary but he’s trailing the democrat by around 10 points himself.

The problem is that the GOP is more interested in deal makers than idealists.


11 posted on 02/19/2010 9:27:33 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: foutsc

The short version:
You Conservatives had better vote for the Republican or else.

Screw that.

If the GOP wants my vote, they’ll have to earn it.


12 posted on 02/19/2010 10:08:02 AM PST by EricT. (Can we start hanging them yet?)
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To: foutsc
I wouldn't take the ACU's word on anything. Check out this group of "conservatives" --also CPAC.

The author uses the "rare case" of Scozzafava, what's rare about a flaming RINO? There are many. Pussyfoot around and we will lose the whole ballgame and wind up being forced to swallow a "moderate" in 2012 just because of the R. Retread Romney with his money & support is marking his calendar and hope springs anew in the breasts of moderates & faux conservs.

13 posted on 02/19/2010 11:29:17 AM PST by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: molybdenum
Also Huck. Moderate populist. Remember, Hillary too is marking her calendar. Zero is falling from grace each day, and the Duhmocrats will move in a massive shift to Klinton. By 2012, we will be 4 years farther from '08 and she will appeal to new crops of voters and disillusioned Dems.

Jim Imhofe is a fine conservative , but I don't know if he would run.

14 posted on 02/19/2010 11:34:36 AM PST by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: foutsc
The lifetime scores of Senators Snow and Collins of Maine both hover around the low side of 50%, in a state where the two liberal Democrat congressmen score a 6% and 12%. These good women are walking a political tightrope, but they're on our side (Dems have heavily courted them).

The author is neglecting to note the times the RINOs hurt us the most are the votes when we need them the most. Senate RINOs that can be peeled off by Reid are the biggest problem we have had in recent years when it comes to either implementing our policy or stopping the Dem's.

15 posted on 02/19/2010 12:21:35 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I'm Ellie Light!)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
This is why a third party is desperately needed. The Conservatives will form their own party. The liberal Republicans will then move to the Democrat party, where they belong. The Republican party will then be defunct. We will then be back to a two-party system. Only this time it will be the Liberals (Democrats) and the Conservatives.

Nice fantasy. If I believed it would actually play out like you dream it would I'd be with you. Your plan is a recipe to make progressives our permanent overlords.

16 posted on 02/19/2010 3:28:11 PM PST by foutsc (Stand with the Heroes, Fight the Zeros)
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To: Secret Agent Man

17 posted on 02/24/2010 1:12:00 PM PST by naturalized
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