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Glenn Beck and the Fox Puppets Want to Repeal the 20th Century
Newsweek ^ | February 22, 2010 | Jonathan Alter

Posted on 02/22/2010 12:15:34 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Glenn Beck has now supplanted Rush Limbaugh as the most influential broadcaster in America. He's the one the tea-party movement looks to. Beck wowed the Conservative Political Action Committee (CPAC) crowd Feb 20 with his attack on progressivism, which he said must be "eradicated." "Progressivism is the cancer in America and it's eating our Constitution," Beck told the crowd.

Now that Beck has given his marching orders, expect to hear all the Fox Puppets echoing him. The goal is to discredit "progressivism" as they did "liberalism."

Beck fancies himself a historian; his patter is full of historical references that seem to have convinced his audience that he knows what he's talking about. Historians like Beck know that when they offer provocative ideas, they bear responsibility for what those ideas actually mean.

So let's look at what would happen if the "cancer" had been cut out when it first appeared, as Beck recommends. A world without the Progressive Era would be a world with:


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Sounds like something from high school:

Beck likes hacks, neener-neener-neener...

1 posted on 02/22/2010 12:15:35 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Communist idiot from Newsweak.


2 posted on 02/22/2010 12:16:40 PM PST by screaminsunshine
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

NewsWEAK is still around??


3 posted on 02/22/2010 12:16:44 PM PST by Nat Turner (Escaped from NY in 1983 and not ever going back....)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Glenn Beck has now supplanted Rush Limbaugh as the most influential broadcaster in America.

Says who? They serve different roles. Rush is an educator, Beck is more of an entertainer. It is like comparing your professor (Rush) to a motivational speaker (Beck).

4 posted on 02/22/2010 12:18:03 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Only men voting: The 19th Amendment giving women the right to vote was the product of progressivisim. Beck thinks women are second-class citizens.

OK, show me a quote where Beck said that. Wait, you can't? Facts are stubborn things, aren't they?

5 posted on 02/22/2010 12:18:35 PM PST by RockinRight (Obama Logic: Global Warming causes blizzards, and deficit spending balances budgets.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

L is for LOSER.


6 posted on 02/22/2010 12:18:36 PM PST by the long march
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Newsweek who again?


7 posted on 02/22/2010 12:18:37 PM PST by cranked
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
with his attack on progressivism

Progressivism is what they call it when they're afraid to call it what it REALLY is: liberalism.

8 posted on 02/22/2010 12:18:55 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Beck thinks women are second-class citizens.

Of course, the author has proof to support this statement. Right? Right?

Nothing like half-arsed hitpiece "journalism."
9 posted on 02/22/2010 12:19:11 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Glenn Beck has now supplanted Rush Limbaugh as the most influential broadcaster in America.

Lol!!!

10 posted on 02/22/2010 12:19:15 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Duh! Beck is not talking about wiping out technonly just the progressiveism in Federal government. I guess Jonathan Alter “fancies” himself as a writer?


11 posted on 02/22/2010 12:19:19 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Personally, I don’t think Glenn Beck is worthy to tie Rush Limbaugh’s shoes.

But if he’s pi$$ing Jonathan Alter off, he’s certainly doing SOMETHING right!

Go get ‘em, Glenn boy!


12 posted on 02/22/2010 12:19:25 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Rick Santelli spawned the Tea Party on Feb 19, 2009 while ranting away on CNBC.

Got that wrong, probably the rest of the article is "WE SURE WOULD LIKE YOU TO BELIEVE THIS", so we can start a fight.

13 posted on 02/22/2010 12:19:52 PM PST by Tarpon ( ...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Progressivism gave us cell phones.

But wait... don’t cell phones cause cancer?

Progressivism really does cause cancer! Beck was more right than he ever knew!


14 posted on 02/22/2010 12:20:35 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: screaminsunshine

No surprise.

I hate Wikipedia, but that’s where I sourced this gem:

“During an interview with 60 Minutes on November 14, 2008, then-President-elect Barack Obama said he had recently been reading The Defining Moment (authored by Alter) and hoped to apply some of Roosevelt’s strategies that were outlined in the book into his own administration.”

That’s nice. Obama governs from books he reads by liberal columnists.


15 posted on 02/22/2010 12:21:28 PM PST by Mengerian
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To: mnehring

“Says who? They serve different roles. Rush is an educator, Beck is more of an entertainer”

Not even much of THAT, IMHO. Granted, I’ve only heard his radio program, but I find that sounds more like a politically tinged Howard Stern show than anything else.

Sorry... if I want to hear annoying people I’ll listen to liberals.


16 posted on 02/22/2010 12:22:00 PM PST by Pravious
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Alter gets most of it wrong. It actually would be better if state legislatures still elected Senators. Cell phone would have been invented with or without deregulation. And women would eventually got the vote with or without progressives. However, it would have been better if they had kept the vote limited to landowners...the serfs just vote to spread their property around.


17 posted on 02/22/2010 12:22:13 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is..." - Milton)
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To: cranked

Newsweak...isn’t that that old magazine that publishes week old news and tries to be relevant even though the average of of it’s subscribers has to be 68?


18 posted on 02/22/2010 12:22:23 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Puppage

There’s nothing “liberal” about what these statists believe. It’s just totalitarian collectivism, plain and simple.


19 posted on 02/22/2010 12:22:34 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Nat Turner
NewsWEAK is still around??

All eight pages of it. I saw one in the trash at a doctor's office. Don't know how it got there either.

20 posted on 02/22/2010 12:22:37 PM PST by kcvl
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To: mnehring

They have never been able to knock out Rush so they try to artificially elevate someone they think they can destroy.

I have heard Beck warn that a character assassination attempt on him is imminent. I would take this article as support for that idea.


21 posted on 02/22/2010 12:23:16 PM PST by DManA
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To: Army Air Corps

Nothing like half-arsed hitpiece “journalism.”

Another liberal rag. To think my father used to read it. Maybe in his day, the writers still had character and values - boy would he be surprised today - but, my canary still loves it:)


22 posted on 02/22/2010 12:23:49 PM PST by Bitsy
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To: ez
"However, it would have been better if they had kept the vote limited to landowners"

Amen!

23 posted on 02/22/2010 12:24:03 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
State legislatures electing U.S. senators: The 17th Amendment, part of the progressive movement, allowed for the direct election of senators. If you think the Senate is bad now, imagine what it was like when state legislators were the only voters. (They defeated Abraham Lincoln in Illinois in 1858 even though he won the popular vote for Senate). Beck likes hacks.,/b>


I believe one reason we are in the condition we are in today is because of this amendment.

The founding fathers created the HOUSE to represent the people. The SENATE was meant to represent the STATES.

I do not believe we would have life long Senators if the states controlled who served.

24 posted on 02/22/2010 12:24:49 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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To: chris_bdba

Probably, lulz. Hell, I can’t remember the last time I picked up an issue of Newsweek, let alone read it.

I seriously thought this libtard rag outlet was defunct and heading to the grave yard with the rest of the other dead libtard rags. Go figure.


25 posted on 02/22/2010 12:24:56 PM PST by cranked
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Let's attack these:

A world without the Progressive Era would be a world with:


26 posted on 02/22/2010 12:25:26 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Puppage

Wouldn’t it actually be Socialism?


27 posted on 02/22/2010 12:25:45 PM PST by Cheesel (The Ark was built by amateurs, the Titanic by professionals.)
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To: DManA
...so they try to artificially elevate someone they think they can destroy.

Beck is also a clown in his approach so they would rather paint Conservatives along that line.

28 posted on 02/22/2010 12:26:58 PM PST by mnehring
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To: chris_bdba

>> Newsweak... average of of it’s subscribers has to be 68?

Age, or IQ? :-)


29 posted on 02/22/2010 12:27:00 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Glenn Beck and the Fox Puppets Want to Repeal the 20th Century

My God we might have to go back to being a self sufficient, optimistic, export financed country with a rapidly expanding standard of living, trade and budget surpluses, low taxes, a small government that while it didn't do much did what tasks it was constitutionally assigned well. Oh the horror of going back to a time when people were actually expected to work, and where everybody knew that their kids would do better than they did, as long as they were willing to work for it. How could anyone imagine going back to a time when immigration was controlled on Eilis Island and where once admitted those immigrants were proud of their new country. /sarc
30 posted on 02/22/2010 12:28:11 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
re: Sounds like something from high school:)))

You've got that right. Beck focuses on the creation of the Fed, income taxes, etc., but the oh-so-bright Alter thinks that means he's against women's suffrage. That's where I stopped reading. Stupid article.

31 posted on 02/22/2010 12:28:33 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Liberal weenie alert.

32 posted on 02/22/2010 12:28:44 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"No cell phone or low-cost long-distance telephone service: It was the breakup of AT&T in the 1970s under the progressive antitrust laws that allowed for today's telecommunications (and computer) systems. Beck thinks corporations should have no restraints at all."

What a MORON! Sheeze do some research assjack!

In 1982 the Reagan administration used the Sherman Act to 
break up AT&T into one long-distance company and seven 
regional "Baby Bells", arguing that competition should 
replace monopoly for the benefit of consumers and the 
economy as a whole. 

33 posted on 02/22/2010 12:31:53 PM PST by avacado
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

A lot of liberal leaning people believe that “progressives” and “progressivism” means “progress”....It could not be further from the truth...

Progressivism actually means “change” or “reform”...It doesn’t say forward...It doesn’t have anything to do with progress which means “moving FORWARD”...


34 posted on 02/22/2010 12:32:19 PM PST by Boonie
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To: cranked
I can’t remember the last time I picked up an issue of Newsweek, let alone read it.

That's a tell-tale sign that you need to call the Dentist and get your teeth cleaned.

35 posted on 02/22/2010 12:32:24 PM PST by libertarian27 (Land of the FEE, home of the SHAMED)
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To: DManA

I wouldn’t be surprised if a PHYSICAL assassination attempt on him was imminent. He says he has bodyguards, and people like Andy Stern believe in using The Persuasion of Power (TM, ­ ®, ©, etc.).


36 posted on 02/22/2010 12:32:42 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I am Ellie Light.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Biography - Jonathan Alter For a decade in the 1980s, Alter was Newsweek's media critic, where he was among the first in the mainstream media to break tradition and hold other news organizations accountable for their coverage[citation needed], a precursor to the role later played by blogs. When Newsweek launched his wide-ranging column in 1991, it was the first time the magazine allowed regular political commentary in the magazine, other than on the back page. After the election of Bill Clinton in 1992, during which Alter was a consultant to MTV, he was among a small group of reporters and columnists who had regular access to Clinton, though he was far from a reliable supporter, particularly during the Monica Lewinsky scandal. "Alter bites me in the ass sometimes, but at least he knows what we're trying to do," Clinton was quoted as saying in the book Media Circus by The Washington Post's Howard Kurtz.

In late 2001, in the wake of 9/11, Alter wrote a column backing certain kinds of torture[3], arguing for the implementation of a psychological torture program in the U.S., as well as having prisoners in American custody shipped oversees to be tortured more severely elsewhere. Alter later regretted the column. "There is one column I'd very much like to have back--a column that to this day makes me wince at the thought of it. This column was not technically inaccurate, but it was still a mistake--a big mistake--to write it."[4]

Alter became a sometimes fierce critic of President Bush[citation needed], with a particular emphasis on what Alter considered his lack of accountability and his position on embryonic stem cell research. Alter, who is a cancer survivor, has written and spoken occasionally about his own bout with lymphoma and experience with an adult stem-cell transplant. The Defining Moment, which was reviewed respectfully, surprised some critics with its depiction of how close the United States came to dictatorship before Franklin Roosevelt became president in 1933, painting him as the savior of American democracy and capitalism. During an interview with 60 Minutes on November 14, 2008, then-President-elect Barack Obama said he had recently been reading The Defining Moment and hoped to apply some of Roosevelt's strategies that were outlined in the book into his own administration.[5]

Alter

37 posted on 02/22/2010 12:33:01 PM PST by pabianice
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To: mnehring

I don’t consider the 17th necessarily a completely good thing.


38 posted on 02/22/2010 12:34:23 PM PST by DManA
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Alter is a ‘tard, to put it in Rahm-like liberaleze.

By his logic, Beck dislikes FDR, and therefore was rooting for the Nazis in WWII.


39 posted on 02/22/2010 12:34:31 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: All

If anything means progress...”moving FORWARD”, it is capitalism...moving forward to stay ahead of competition...which is the lifeblood of America...


40 posted on 02/22/2010 12:35:09 PM PST by Boonie
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
•State legislatures electing U.S. senators: The 17th Amendment, part of the progressive movement, allowed for the direct election of senators. If you think the Senate is bad now, imagine what it was like when state legislators were the only voters. (They defeated Abraham Lincoln in Illinois in 1858 even though he won the popular vote for enate). Beck likes hacks.

THis would be an excellent idea. The republic was much stronger when the states had this power....

41 posted on 02/22/2010 12:35:27 PM PST by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Why did you post a picture of George Costanza?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Costanza


42 posted on 02/22/2010 12:36:15 PM PST by DManA
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I’ve always looked at it as one of those things that could go both ways. The 17th did change somewhat the purpose, being representatives of the States versus individuals, however, it came at a time when more individuals started becoming more informed and more directly influenced by their respective States so it gave more power back to individuals.

It is how it has been used since that is the real problem. It has become a de facto House of Lords.


43 posted on 02/22/2010 12:36:52 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Puppage
“Progressivism is what they call it when they're afraid to call it what it REALLY is: liberalism.”

It really isn't liberalism it is Stalinism. The Progressive movement of the early 1900’s(Theodore Roosevelt etc) was about honest, responsive government and reforming the corrupt Democrat machines(Tammany Hall etc). The Progressive movement of the 1930’s on was financed and supported by the former Soviet Union.

44 posted on 02/22/2010 12:37:14 PM PST by detective
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To: Puppage
“Progressivism is what they call it when they're afraid to call it what it REALLY is: liberalism.”

It really isn't liberalism it is Stalinism. The Progressive movement of the early 1900’s(Theodore Roosevelt etc) was about honest, responsive government and reforming the corrupt Democrat machines(Tammany Hall etc). The Progressive movement of the 1930’s on was financed and supported by the former Soviet Union.

45 posted on 02/22/2010 12:37:30 PM PST by detective
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To: avacado

If I recall correctly, it was also a Republican house of Representatives that first passed woman’s suffrage laws that led to the 19th Amendment. It was a Democrat controlled Senate that first killed it. Even in the second attempt, when it did pass, it was still primarly Republicans who voted for it (House: for- 36R 20D, against 8R, 17D).

It was also a Democrat who tried to overturn the 19th in the courts saying it was improperly ratified (Leser v Garnett).


46 posted on 02/22/2010 12:42:20 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Wow. That piece would be dripping with red ink even if it were to be turned in by an 8th grader. I’m toying with the idea of tacking on a couple of weekends of detention.


47 posted on 02/22/2010 12:42:43 PM PST by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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To: mnehring

Beck gives me a headache.


48 posted on 02/22/2010 12:43:29 PM PST by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Beck is interesting at times, incomprehensible at others. He is certainly no Rush Limbaugh.


49 posted on 02/22/2010 12:49:51 PM PST by Astronaut
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To: CIB-173RDABN

The 17th Amendment is one of the most destructive ammendments in our constitution.


50 posted on 02/22/2010 12:49:55 PM PST by LiberConservative (Obama: the "corpse man" president.)
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