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First Batch of Hawaii Petitions to be mailed this week
The Post and Email ^ | Feb. 22, 2010 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 02/23/2010 3:20:12 AM PST by 1234

...On July 27, 2009, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health, made an unprovoked public statement about Barack Hussein Obama’s birth and citizenship status. Since that time, neither she nor the Health Department has released any meaningful “index data” to substantiate the claim that Obama is a “natural born American citizen.”

While birth certificates are protected by privacy laws in the state of Hawaii, the Uniform Information Practices Act, Section 92-F12, mandates that “(15) Information collected and maintained for the purpose of making information available to the general public” must be released upon request. Therefore, when Dr. Fukino voluntarily made her public statement regarding Obama’s status, her department became obligated to release the backup information used to prepare it. To date, Hawaiian officials have refused to provide any correlating evidence used to craft Dr. Fukino’s public statement.

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"PATRIOTS HEED THE CALL TO PETITION HAWAII OFFICIALS FOR “TRANSPARENCY”"
1 posted on 02/23/2010 3:20:12 AM PST by 1234
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To: 1234

Never going to happen. Our entire government and media is involved in the coverup of who the usurper really is and are too terrified of someone or something to push the issue.


2 posted on 02/23/2010 3:24:49 AM PST by beckysueb (Scott Brown is a start. Lets keep it going.)
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To: All
[General debate]

In the spirit of Mark Levin, I'd like to put this in military terms.

We are in an era of Wild West free speech, what Drudge had the vision to call “the din of small voices”. It's a war of rapid maneuver where EVERYONE is in a high tech fighter jet. It's a day-and-night dogfight in the heavens that never rests. This new war of words demands more self-initiative. Too much control from high command can lead to disaster. Generals make the mistake of thinking backwards and fighting ‘the last war’ with battleships rather than carriers, and today we are blessed with freedom of speech beyond our founders’ comprehension. Use it or lose it. Everyone must get smarter — everyone — like the Israelite warriors of eld: fight the enemy as though you must defeat them by yourself. [A good example is what O’Keefe did to ACORN.] What is a general to do? Train and inspire your officer “corpse”. Encourage initiative. Take a bright light or two under your wing. As for the fighter pilots — use your specialties. Perhaps you should create new specialties for yourself. What does this forum need more of?

The three communication frontiers. How do you ...

A. ... grab peoples’ attention?
B. ... convince others to see things your way?
C. ... inspire those who agree with you?

All three legs are important for the stool. Hyper-caution is not the answer to “A”. And “B” requires a reasonable understanding of human nature. Like a winning team that drains the clock, conservative leaders excell at certain aspects of “B”. They have traditionally held their punches and played it safe. [I offer the Sandy ‘Bergler and crack pardon examples at the bottom.] Such a strategy has helped them survive in the past, but can they adjust quickly enough to modern times? Just look at the last race. I doubt an astro-turf campaign would have achieved much if it hadn't been for two things: after being saddled with RINO McCain by crossover primary votes, we were next ambushed by an economic meltdown [arguably orchestrated].

High funded leftists undoubtedly have future surprises in store. Example: Glenn Beck recently learned that Obama is following the FDR strategy of targeting his Stimulus slush fund in key districts and states. We can't afford to strive for a small lead anymore. We need to maintain a BIG lead. We must crush and demoralize. We must expose them completely and undermine base support. This is no game — this is for keeps. Objective: destroy the DNC.

Carriers, Not Battle Ships

Rush Limbaugh is not a battleship — he's an aircraft carrier. Fighter jets need a place to land, a group to ‘belong to’. That's what EIB is. That's also what this great forum is. You must be selective. Some jets carry faulty bombs. A racist is flagged off ASAP. No permission granted to land. What about weed smokers? Welcome to land. Savage fans? Welcome to land. Boortz fans? WND fans? Birthers? After-birthers? Conspiracy theorists? Pro-aborts? Evolutionists? Creationists? Mormons? Hindus? Even muslims. All are allowed to post here. Why? Contrary to RINO-speak, the real “big tent” is intellectual. The more jets aboard, the stronger the carrier. We just don't want any faulty bombs going off.

Some carriers are in hotter theaters than others. A politician, for example, has to run a tight ship with more control. She hires her political scientists and plans operations closely. Here is what I find heartening ...

Sarah Palin: “Palling around with terrorists.” That's right, Sarah! My jet can bring some powerful bombs to support the USS Palin — Bill Ayers bombs are like daisy cutters.

Hayworth vs. McCain:

JD Hayworth says Obama birth certificate an ‘identity theft’ issue
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2452548/posts

“McCain also frowns on Hayworth’s getting mired in the debate over President Obama’s birth certificate.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2454280/posts

Where do the “birther jets” land in Arizona? What about the “after-birther” jets? Who gets mired? It depends on YOU. For after-birthers, what trumps what? Borders, free speech, and cap & tax versus a guy who made a “horrible birther” remark?

Like the Parable of the Monkeys [with fire hose and taboo bananas], some will try to keep us in a bunker, remembering decades past when the truth was too dangerous to mention.

The Parable of the Monkeys [with fire hose and taboo bananas]
http://proliberty.com/observer//20080703.htm
“Suspended at the top if the cage was a bunch of bananas. There was a ladder from the floor of the cage up to the bananas. One of the monkeys, who was both clever and agile and also liked bananas, decided to head up the ladder ...”


Regarding Certifigate:

Joseph Farah: “I say, if it's been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.”
[Regardless of the man, what about the words? Does anyone honestly think those words are unreasonable?]

Poll — 58% of Republicans question Obama’s Constitutional Qualification
http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0709/58_of_GOP_not_suredont_beleive_Obama_born_in_US.html
[I agree that a KOS poll isn't the most accurate, but it's the only one I know of reg. republican %.]

Maelstorm: “There is no need for Glenn Beck, Breitbart, or anyone to defend a President who refuses to release his education records, his medical records, and yes he still hasn’t released a long form birth certificate.”

CaptainK: “All jobs require detailed information about your past. Why should the most important job in the nation get a pass?”

Some people say that other issues are ‘bigger fish to fry’, such as nationalizing entire industries.

Uncle Chip: “Do you see a connection between overlooking this little “technicality” [certifigate] and his takeover of private industry??? Unlawful does as unlawful is.” [Bingo. That’s why conservatives end up uniting if they think hard enough.]

Obama Trusters should be proud to be on the side of el McCain. McCain tries to belittle Hayworth for standing for the truth. I’m glad that I see eye-to-eye with Hayworth on this matter [as with every other matter I know of]. Are we to throw Hayworth under the bus? And protect McCain? Mock truth, and there's no telling who you might hurt.

Unity will never be brought through allowing the left to divide us, and RINOs are delighted to throw conservatives under the bus. McCain is typical of that — cussing out conservatives like a sailor and at the same time, he bows and scrapes like a toady at the leftist court. Creeps like him thrive from internal discord.

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I'm a birther? Yeah, I'm pro-motherhood. I'd be embarrassed trying to call people ‘birthers’, the perfect word for anyone who thinks birth is obscene and abortion is cool. That said, I'd rather be a birther than a sucker [who gives cover to brain suckers, partial birth abortion].

Some people tell us to focus on other issues. I would rather they said ‘prioritize’. Focus means ‘telescopic site’, which is lousy when you have a lot of moving targets.

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Next post coming ... the nitty-gritty.

3 posted on 02/23/2010 3:32:32 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
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To: beckysueb
Never going to happen. Our entire government and media is involved in the coverup of who the usurper really is and are too terrified of someone or something to push the issue.

The people are the government! We don't need the media to accomplish this goal!
4 posted on 02/23/2010 3:34:57 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: All

Obama, the Mystery Man.

He’s too secretive. He might be other peoples’ president, but I don’t think of him as mine until he proves he’s constitutionally qualified.

Tigerseye has a list of just how secretive the left’s president is:

0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?
1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service? This supposed revelation of 0’s SS records has been debunked. Check with tigerseye who showed me this list.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham’s divorce decree.
24 Why did Barack Obama resign from the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why did Michelle Obama resign from the Illinois bar after only about four years of practice and where are all of the relevant documents?

[Compare this with someone’s background check to visit the White House or to work in a missile plant.]

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Zero has chosen a very interesting law firm to represent him in certifigate:
Perkins Coie
http://yesbuthowever.com/perkins-coie-massachusetts-8136453
“The firm has successfully navigated close elections for Minnesota Senator Al Franken [recounted until it was ‘right’], Washington Governor Christine Gregoire and helped bend [break] election laws in New Jersey to benefit Senator Frank Lautenberg in 2002.”

“New Coach” Comparison:

Such a question to remain festering is inexcusable in a leader. A team sees some guy walking into the locker room claiming to be their new coach. Next to the ‘coach’ is a mobster and a thug [Ayers and Rezco].
How much should they trust this ‘coach’? Is it their fault if they wonder?

The coach says, “I was sent here by the other team.” [Annenberg vetting Obama]. Such ‘leadership’.

The [Terrorist loving] Hippies Who “Certified” Obama
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2454752/posts?page=36#36
http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/AnnenbergFactCheckers.htm

Obama was vetted by Annenberg. But they have a history of being cronies and sugerdaddies for Obama AND unrepentent terrorist, Bill Ayers. Obama and the terrorist had Annenberg offices near each other. Annenberg is the best the DNC could come up with to vet their candidate or Commander in Chief. Bill Ayers was a sworn enemy of US soldiers.

[And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. There is a huge army of intellectuals who signed a petition on behalf of the unrepentent terrorist. Bill Ayers, the bomb terrorist who recently said he “didn’t do enough”, and exhaustively reported to be the ghost writer and friend of Obama.]

Yeah, so don’t vet a DNC candidate unless you are his sugardaddy and crony with terrorists.

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The coach hires a lawyer to hide his past from the team.

*** Note that not all of Zero’s law tab to Perkins Coie is related to certifigate. ***

Obama law tab up to $1.4 million
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=106138

“He used DOJ attorneys! These attorneys are paid by the U.S. taxpayer! And...He distracted these DOJ attorneys from the important work of keeping Americans safe!” — wintertime

Not that the actual amount matters. McCain showed his birth certificate and that ended the controversy. Perhaps a lawyer would want someone to stay in the bunker, but this is our nation’s leader and our military’s leader. He must EARN our trust and respect. Only a dictator can demand subservience.

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Some reasonable critics of ‘birthers’ try to alienate our most extreme elements. That is a good thing. We must thin the herd. So long as the critics are respectful toward reasonable certifigate hawks, I will attempt to be the same. But then there are the snarky “dignity imps” who are more worried about their image than the truth. They impishly pile on like sidekicks of a bully. They fear being on the losing side. They calculate. And they will never get along with hardworking conservative muckrakers.
Not knowing it, the sarcastic “Dignity Imps” are like a coward in the foxhole who stabs his buddy in the back and surrenders. Either that, or he’s a hideous combination of mental laziness and self righteous judgmentality.

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To understand why conservative leaders act so strangely about BO’s Certifigate scandal, you need to first understand history.

No Jail Time for Sandy Bergler
http://musing-minds.com/2005/09/08/no-jail-time-for-sandy-bergler

The American Spectator : Code Word Bergler
http://spectator.org/archives/2004/07/26/code-word-bergler

Politics of the past — President Bush [God love him] was giving the democrat party life support. Truth was “too dangerous to touch”. What is the thanks Bush gets? A vice president Biden who wants to hold war trials for the previous administration. Don’t play with rattlesnakes — end their ability to harm you. Defang them, even if it means their political destruction.

Did you ever hear the great uproar by the GOP over Clinton pardoning a crack dealer for cash?

Another Pardon, Another Controversy
http://speakout.com/activism/news/5653-1.html
Hugh Rodham [Hillary’s brother] received a contingency fee in connection with a pardon ... a scheme to distribute 800 pounds of crack cocaine [snip]

Imagine if Bush had pardoned a crack dealer for cash. How quiet would the DNC and the Drive-bys have been about it? The RNC is so issues-focused, they are obsessed about giving the DNC cover. It’s apparently been that way ever since Joe MacArthy. Conservative leaders have always held their punches. They rationalize away their fear. Back in William F. Buckley’s day, that was necessary. It’s a different world now with copy-paste, Control + A — web-communication and twitter.

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A deeper look at certifigate:

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html
http://www.jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2454803/posts?page=82#82

WND’s archive of news reports on Certifigate
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=98546

Recent Link Blasts on Certifigate by SatinDoll:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2447475/posts?page=268#268

Root Link for Feb 2010:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2447475/posts?page=299#299


5 posted on 02/23/2010 3:36:22 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Excellent Post. Long but well worth the read. Thank You.


6 posted on 02/23/2010 3:37:42 AM PST by Two-Bits (Our flag is the last beacon of freedom, fly this flag soaked by the blood of our very bravest)
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To: beckysueb
...Our entire government and media is involved in the coverup of who the usurper really is and are too terrified of someone or something to push the issue.

If the truth is/was that BO is/was constitutionally ineligible, it'll someday "bubble to the surface" ; and what a "movie of the week'" that'll make....

7 posted on 02/23/2010 3:38:34 AM PST by 1234 ("1984")
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To: 1234

When, not if, the information becomes public, that Bowrama is not a natural born citizen, Beck, O’Reilly, etc. will be eating words!


8 posted on 02/23/2010 3:41:12 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error!)
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To: beckysueb

The citizens of Hawaii will need to change the Government, who will direct bureaucrats to perform their duties


9 posted on 02/23/2010 4:16:12 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: Two-Bits

Thank you for the kind words, FRiend.


10 posted on 02/23/2010 4:18:07 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
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To: beckysueb

That is true, until Obummer becomes too big of a cost to the Democrat Party. I’ve predicted that in the Spring, it’ll be the Democrats calling to see Obummer’s birth certificate. I may be wrong, it may take until after the coming electoral implosion of the Dems in November.


11 posted on 02/23/2010 5:51:27 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I was thinking about that yesterday. Two of my kids came home, discussing lessons on George Washington, and Abraham Lincoln. I thought about it a minute, knowing the place of Lincoln’s birth, he went to school, then law school (where we have papers, decisions, court records of him practicing); then George Washington and the ‘cherry tree story’ (which is probably false, but a good story), but you still know about his birth, his growing up, school, friends, papers etc.

This was 150-200 years ago.

However, someone born less than 50 years ago, and there seems to be no 100% bullet proof identifying trace of him, and he’s not the President.

Just amazing to me.


12 posted on 02/23/2010 7:33:11 AM PST by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
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To: 1234
While birth certificates are protected by privacy laws in the state of Hawaii, the Uniform Information Practices Act, Section 92-F12, mandates that “(15) Information collected and maintained for the purpose of making information available to the general public” must be released upon request. Therefore, when Dr. Fukino voluntarily made her public statement regarding Obama’s status, her department became obligated to release the backup information used to prepare it. To date, Hawaiian officials have refused to provide any correlating evidence used to craft Dr. Fukino’s public statement.

She opened her big mouth. Make her now put her documents where her big mouth was --

13 posted on 02/23/2010 7:52:56 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: beckysueb
Never going to happen. Our entire government and media is involved in the coverup of who the usurper really is and are too terrified of someone or something to push the issue

Maybe -- Maybe Not. But we have to do our part in order to get them to either do their legally required duty, or force them to come to grips with the source of their cowardice.

14 posted on 02/23/2010 8:00:03 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: wizard1961; TigersEye

Regarding the overall strategy of muckraking conservatives:

[Please note post 3]

Anti-establishment people have always been the strategic allies of conservatism. They mistrust big government. They embrace freedom: the right to free speech, the right to bear arms. If anti-establishment muckrakers don’t belong with conservatives any more, many will find other places to belong, like militia groups. Shutting them out would be foolish.

I remember the early days of this forum. Militia groups tried to infiltrate us and take us over. We countered that we could take on big government through free speech and political activism. I’m speaking from at least some experience on this. I believe we re-channeled negative energy into positive use. Anti-establishment people need to be finessed, not battered with a sledge hammer.


15 posted on 02/23/2010 8:12:00 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
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To: Ro_Thunder

Wow, quite a way of looking it it! I’ll quote you some time. FRegards ....


16 posted on 02/23/2010 8:13:12 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I'm a birther? Yeah, I'm pro-motherhood. I'd be embarrassed trying to call people ‘birthers’, the perfect word for anyone who thinks birth is obscene and abortion is cool. That said, I'd rather be a birther than a sucker [who gives cover to brain suckers, partial birth abortion].

You may be onto something.

Birthers are Pro-Life -- Pro Life for our Republic -- Pro_Life for our Constitution -- Pro-Life for the weakest amongst us -- Pro-Life for our future.

Afterbirthers are Pro-Abortion -- Pro-Death of our Republic -- Pro-Death of our Constitution -- Pro-Death for the weakest amongst us -- Pro-Death for our future.

Deuteronomy 30:19

17 posted on 02/23/2010 8:22:16 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip; cricket

Right you are, Uncle Chip. And if you look at two different news sources, Drudge and WND, who fights harder for life? Hands down, WND. God bless Drudge too. But WND is avidly pro-life and “birther”. Boortz is pro-abortion and after-birther. It often fits, but not always. It’s a matter of odds, the people who dominate the after-birthers and the leading ‘birthers’.

If I remember correctly, Cricket was the one who helped me brainstorm that response. Mainly his brain that came up with this.


18 posted on 02/23/2010 8:30:13 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Is it any coincidence that the One who came to power by aborting Article II of the Constitution and subsequently sending out minions of pro-abortion Afterbirthers to try to stomp on its lifeless remains so as to destroy all remembrance of its existence is also the most Pro-Abortion occupant to sit in the Oval Office???


19 posted on 02/23/2010 8:43:59 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip

I agree. People who do not value innocent life are fundamentally flawed. Single issue voters on innocent life have a point, don’t they?


20 posted on 02/23/2010 8:47:55 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Thanks - It just amazes me - seriously. Think about the documents we have of Jefferson, Washington, Adams. Heck, think about the Puritans, William Bradford, the Allen brothers.

We’ve got photographs, letters written to family, diaries, etc.

These are over 100 years old. Yet, in the time of 8mm film of Kennedy’s assassination, we have no ‘home movies’ of Obama. We have pictures of Pancho freakin’ Villa, Sitting Bull, Robert E Lee, but nothing that seems to be ‘clear-cut’ and ‘undeniably original and untampered with’ of our 44th president. I just find that astonishing. It literally seems as if he ‘just sprung up’.

It reminds me of the Bourne series of fake ID’s, and back-stories/histories of false identities.


21 posted on 02/23/2010 9:16:03 AM PST by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Great post and thanks for *ping! Just listening to Rush who announced that Mitt is supporting MCain. (So pathetic; perhaps he thinks this will put him on ‘Sarah’s side’. Don’t know. J.D. has a hill to climb; hope all the ‘real Repubs’ in Arizona rise to the occasion and send J.D. off to to Washington. For all the talk; hope it ‘walks’ in Arizona. ) Hmmmm. . .truly, a great deal of work to be done.


22 posted on 02/23/2010 10:38:23 AM PST by cricket (Proud to be the 'Party of NO')
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To: Man50D

I meant to say government leaders.


23 posted on 02/23/2010 10:47:30 AM PST by beckysueb (Scott Brown is a start. Lets keep it going.)
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To: 1234

For the record, the “index data” that Hawaii law requires be released consists of type of vital document, name of person on the document and the gender of that person.
“Haw. Rev. Stat. §338-18(d) states, “Index data consisting of name and sex of the registrant, type of vital event, and such other data as the director may authorize shall be made available to the public.”
HRS §338-18.

Index data consisting of name and sex of the registrant, and type of event is made available to the public. The director, in accordance with HRS §338-18(d), has not authorized any other data to be made available to the public.

Index data referred to in HRS §338-18 from vital records in the State of Hawaii is available for inspection at the Department of Health’s Office of Health Status Monitoring at 1250 Punchbowl Street in Honolulu. The public will be asked to provide identification and sign in to inspect the names and sex of all births, deaths and marriages that occurred in the state. Data are maintained in bound copies by type of event with names listed alphabetically by last name.
The Hawaii State Health Department has already released the statuatory required “index data”: birth record, Barack Hussein Obama II, male.
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html


24 posted on 02/23/2010 11:19:46 AM PST by jamese777
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To: 1234

obumpa


25 posted on 02/23/2010 1:37:40 PM PST by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

It’s ok. Remember those recent times when the Republicans had power in the Presidency and/or the house? They made lots of headway in getting abortion banned. Make sure to vote for them the next time, I’m sure they’ll try reeeeeaaal hard to get abortion banned properly.


26 posted on 02/23/2010 4:04:18 PM PST by IntolerantOfTreason (The AMERICAN President should be an AMERICAN, NOT an AFRICAN-American)
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To: Ro_Thunder

It is creepy.


27 posted on 02/23/2010 5:31:31 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
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To: cricket

Regarding Romney and el McCain — the good news is that we can clearly see who the insider and the outsider is. Hayworth is the outsider. Further, like Rush said, Romney showed us something about himself. I had liked Romney, but this helps me believe his critics.


28 posted on 02/23/2010 5:33:58 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
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To: IntolerantOfTreason

The RINOs are the only problem with the GOP. Where have you been? Check out the voting records.


29 posted on 02/23/2010 6:29:03 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Regarding Romney and el McCain — the good news is that we can clearly see who the insider and the outsider is. Hayworth is the outsider. Further, like Rush said, Romney showed us something about himself. I had liked Romney, but this helps me believe his critics.

Believed the critics; and 'still' liked him/lol and with these folks making 'family'; why not?/sigh . . .So there is McCain; with Mitt and Sarah. . .and Scott Brown cheering.(I know; I know; it's politics. Still; I don't like the picture).

Beyond Sherrif Apaio; just who is going to be at J.D.'s side?

30 posted on 02/23/2010 6:34:07 PM PST by cricket (Proud to be the 'Party of NO')
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To: Man50D

JB Williams
Canada Free Press

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

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Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

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But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

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Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

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Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

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WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

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DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.

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A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..

Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

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A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:

Dr. Orly has put her life’s blood into this fight. SHE HAS MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP FROM COWARDLY REPUBLICANS AND THE SCOTUS.

Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials.

She has even gone to Isreal and Russia to spread the message about Obama’s inelgibility!

She states the case expertly, including the bc and natural born citizen aspect, when not abused by the U.S. state-controlled media. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132880

Sure, Dr. Orly makes mistakes. We all do. But Dr. Orly is no dummy. How many of us could go to a foreign country, learn 5 languages, establish a successful dental practice, a successful real estate business AND pass the California state bar- one of the hardest in the U.S. to pass?
She may be a ‘mail order’ attorney and not a Harvard lawyer, but she IS an attorney with all the rights and privilages of a Harvard lawyer nevertheless!
The point is; she has the passion, the zeal, the courage of her convictions and the love of America and its freedoms (unlike many of our ‘great’ attorneys and ‘patriots’ who criticize her) that will not let her give up!
She is exhausted. She is nervous. She is frustrated. It is reported that she gets by on 4-5 hours of sleep per night, and her family is very worried about her health- as well as her safety.
She makes mistakes. But she will NOT give up. She will keep on until she gets it right.

Stop tearing her apart. The Obots on FR don’t need our help.
The obots are scared to death of this little lady and her determination. That’s why they come out in droves all over the net on forums, chat rooms and even the national news to attack and ridicule.

Even if Orly NEVER brings Obama to trial, she has almost single handly brought his ineligibility to world wide attention, caused him to spend MILLIONS on lawyers to keep his records hidden AND CAUSED THE MUZZIE TO SWEAT BULLETS!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcChG5pRTOE&feature=player_embedded


31 posted on 02/23/2010 8:08:53 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
First and foremost, turn to GOD ! put this in GOD's hand and control......
Rely on Divine Providence, because if we don't, we will be defeated.
32 posted on 02/24/2010 12:13:45 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Man50D
The Media is just interference ! they are swarming flies and gnats !

SEND JUDAH FIRST AND THE BATTLE WILL BE WON !
AS JUDAH DID ON THE BATTLE GROUND WE WILL MAKE A JOYFUL SOUND !
33 posted on 02/24/2010 12:16:58 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Man50D
DIVINE PROVIDENCE MY FRIEND WILL WIN AT THE END OF THE DAY !

34 posted on 02/24/2010 12:17:53 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Bushbacker1

Crow pie with whipped cream for Beck and O’reilled up


35 posted on 02/24/2010 12:20:37 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Jesus Christ said “ I have come that they may have life, and life more abundantly.”
36 posted on 02/24/2010 12:27:32 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: American Constitutionalist

The truth will set you free.

Did the Obama campaign try to foist a forgery on us?

BIOCHEMKY:

I’ll tell you what. I think the idea that the Obama campaign would have used Obama’s sister’s as a template makes sense. That is of course conjecture.

However, here’s what I know about it otherwise. I have read the following:

(a) What was placed in photocopy form on the Obama campaign’s website is a CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH (COLB) which is an item that is provided not at the time of one’s birth, but at any other point afterward

(b) What is prepared at birth by the medical personnel and the administrators of the hospital facility is called a VAULT copy of one’s BIRTH CERTIFICATE (BC). This item is kept by the hospital in their records department. An abbreviated version of the valult copy of the BC is what is actually given to the baby’s parents. The vault copy of the BC stays at the hospital.

(c) The photocoy of the fraudulent COLB on the Obama campaign’s website has the following physical problems:

(1) it has no raised seal impressed (not foiled, just raised) on it visible on the back as it should

(2) it has an emblem on the front that is supposed to be the seal of the state of Hawaii, but this emblem differs quite a bit from the authentic seal of Hawaii

(3) it has a nonauthentic border around the bottom and right hand side when looking at the back of it

(4) it does not cite the attending physician nor carry that individual’s signature

(5) i believe I also read that somehow a person was able to read the registration number on it or at least find out the number of digits in the registration number on it (that is blacked out with heavily black marker), however the information derived is not in agreement with the number sequences that were being given out from the hospital claimed in Aug. of 1961 or there was a different number of digits than should be present.

Personally, I don’t know why someone just doesn’t get ahold of the airline records that will confirm that Stanley Ann Dunham traveled to kenya at about 8 months along and was too far along to be allowed on the plane when she attempted to return to the U.S. to give birth and, thus, she did not return from Kenya until after Obama’s claimed date of birth.

Prove where Stanley Ann Dunham was on Aug. 4, 1961 and by default you also prove where Obama was born.

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I put the forged birth certificate in the criminal column; he defrauded the American people to help him ascend to the highest office in the land, a position for which he is ineligible.

He began by suspending the protections of our constitution (not being a natural born citizen) and he has been chipping away at the bill of rights and each ammendment a little at a time each and evey day.

I wouldn’t “shelve” the issue, I would simply refer to it as often as possible as what it is: a fabricated certification of live birth (COLB) and leave it at that.

Whether that COLB form is a forgery is actually a mute point. This is because: Obama’s father was a British citizen at the time of Obama’s birth and, thus, he has no way of claiming that he is a natural born citizen (born of two U.S. citizen parents within the geographic U.S.).

At the time of his birth the only citizenship Obama had received was that from his father, British. This is because although Obama’s mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth, she had not lived in the U.S. for 5 years after her 14th birthday. This was required at the time in order for a citizen to pass on their citizenship when a child was born outside the country. Obama’s mother was only 18 (not 19) at the time Obama was born.

This last part I stated better in the argument laid out below (with links noted):

Obama was born at 7:24 p.m. on August 4, 1961 at the Coast Provincial General Hospital in the town of Mombasa in the Coast Province of the British colony of Kenya (http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2009/090909/FrntPgObamaEligibility.html). At the time of Obama’s birth, his father, Barack Hussein Obama, was a British citizen (Kenya did not gain its independence from Britain until 1963) and his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was a United States citizen. According to Federal law, however, as the sole U.S. citizen parent Obama’s mother was not old enough and did not reside in the United States long enough after age 14 to qualify Obama as a United States citizen. The particulars are as follows.

According to Title 3, Chap. 1 of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (McCarran-Walter Act, Public Law No. 82-414, 66 Stat. 163) that was passed on June 27, 1952 and applies to persons of birth between December 24, 1952 and November 14, 1986 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/8693236/1952-Immigration-and-Nationality-Act-Title3-Chapter1?secret_password=&autodown=pdf), a child born outside of the United States to one citizen parent could acquire United States citizenship if the United States citizen parent had been physically present in the United States for ten (10) years prior to the child’s birth and five (5) of those years were after the parent had reached the age of fourteen.

Obama’s mother was born November 29, 1942 and, thus, she was only 18 years old when Obama was born in Kenya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Ann_Dunham). As such, Obama’s mother did not meet the age-dependent residency requirements for her child to receive United States citizenship from her. Therefore, Obama is not a United States citizen. Furthermore, he is most certainly not a natural born U.S. citizen which is required of him to be as specified in Article II, section 1 clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution in order to hold the office of President or Vice President of the United States http://www.house.gov/house/Constitution/Constitution.html

BIOCHEMKY


37 posted on 02/24/2010 2:58:31 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
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To: BIOCHEMKY

First quote of you, FRiend. — FRegards ....


38 posted on 02/24/2010 2:59:20 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
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To: cricket

Who? WE are on Hayworth’s side! So is Rush, who flailed McRomney for the endorsement. Rush is worth ten McRomney endorsements. And Mark Levin too — open, public endorsement of Hayworth. It’s impossible to even guess how many endorsements the Great One is worth. That alone is five hours of talk radio out to nail McCain, the very thing McCainiac tried to make illegal. This could end up being the Great Hispanderer’s worst nightmare.


39 posted on 02/24/2010 3:04:48 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

40 posted on 02/24/2010 3:09:22 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
All true; but will Rush 'endordse' J.D.?

Rush can help J.D. for sure, from his golden microphone; but will he actually endorse him - campaing for him? The tea Party can certainly move some ground here; but are they? And yes, we can help; but what are the Repubs in Arizona doing. Is there a 'ground swell' for J.D.? Or are they waiting for a second shoe to drop. . .or what?

(Anyone from Arizona political field here?)

41 posted on 02/24/2010 5:28:24 AM PST by cricket (Proud to be the 'Party of NO')
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