Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

First Batch of Hawaii Petitions to be mailed this week
The Post and Email ^ | Feb. 22, 2010 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 02/23/2010 3:20:12 AM PST by 1234

...On July 27, 2009, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health, made an unprovoked public statement about Barack Hussein Obama’s birth and citizenship status. Since that time, neither she nor the Health Department has released any meaningful “index data” to substantiate the claim that Obama is a “natural born American citizen.”

While birth certificates are protected by privacy laws in the state of Hawaii, the Uniform Information Practices Act, Section 92-F12, mandates that “(15) Information collected and maintained for the purpose of making information available to the general public” must be released upon request. Therefore, when Dr. Fukino voluntarily made her public statement regarding Obama’s status, her department became obligated to release the backup information used to prepare it. To date, Hawaiian officials have refused to provide any correlating evidence used to craft Dr. Fukino’s public statement.

(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...


TOPICS:
KEYWORDS: article2section1; birthcertificate; birthcetificate; britishsubject; certifigate; citizen; citizenship; dualcitizen; dualcitizenship; eligibility; fukino; hawaii; honolulu; indonesia; ineligible; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; usurper
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041 next last
"PATRIOTS HEED THE CALL TO PETITION HAWAII OFFICIALS FOR “TRANSPARENCY”"
1 posted on 02/23/2010 3:20:12 AM PST by 1234
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 1234

Never going to happen. Our entire government and media is involved in the coverup of who the usurper really is and are too terrified of someone or something to push the issue.


2 posted on 02/23/2010 3:24:49 AM PST by beckysueb (Scott Brown is a start. Lets keep it going.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All
[General debate]

In the spirit of Mark Levin, I'd like to put this in military terms.

We are in an era of Wild West free speech, what Drudge had the vision to call “the din of small voices”. It's a war of rapid maneuver where EVERYONE is in a high tech fighter jet. It's a day-and-night dogfight in the heavens that never rests. This new war of words demands more self-initiative. Too much control from high command can lead to disaster. Generals make the mistake of thinking backwards and fighting ‘the last war’ with battleships rather than carriers, and today we are blessed with freedom of speech beyond our founders’ comprehension. Use it or lose it. Everyone must get smarter — everyone — like the Israelite warriors of eld: fight the enemy as though you must defeat them by yourself. [A good example is what O’Keefe did to ACORN.] What is a general to do? Train and inspire your officer “corpse”. Encourage initiative. Take a bright light or two under your wing. As for the fighter pilots — use your specialties. Perhaps you should create new specialties for yourself. What does this forum need more of?

The three communication frontiers. How do you ...

A. ... grab peoples’ attention?
B. ... convince others to see things your way?
C. ... inspire those who agree with you?

All three legs are important for the stool. Hyper-caution is not the answer to “A”. And “B” requires a reasonable understanding of human nature. Like a winning team that drains the clock, conservative leaders excell at certain aspects of “B”. They have traditionally held their punches and played it safe. [I offer the Sandy ‘Bergler and crack pardon examples at the bottom.] Such a strategy has helped them survive in the past, but can they adjust quickly enough to modern times? Just look at the last race. I doubt an astro-turf campaign would have achieved much if it hadn't been for two things: after being saddled with RINO McCain by crossover primary votes, we were next ambushed by an economic meltdown [arguably orchestrated].

High funded leftists undoubtedly have future surprises in store. Example: Glenn Beck recently learned that Obama is following the FDR strategy of targeting his Stimulus slush fund in key districts and states. We can't afford to strive for a small lead anymore. We need to maintain a BIG lead. We must crush and demoralize. We must expose them completely and undermine base support. This is no game — this is for keeps. Objective: destroy the DNC.

Carriers, Not Battle Ships

Rush Limbaugh is not a battleship — he's an aircraft carrier. Fighter jets need a place to land, a group to ‘belong to’. That's what EIB is. That's also what this great forum is. You must be selective. Some jets carry faulty bombs. A racist is flagged off ASAP. No permission granted to land. What about weed smokers? Welcome to land. Savage fans? Welcome to land. Boortz fans? WND fans? Birthers? After-birthers? Conspiracy theorists? Pro-aborts? Evolutionists? Creationists? Mormons? Hindus? Even muslims. All are allowed to post here. Why? Contrary to RINO-speak, the real “big tent” is intellectual. The more jets aboard, the stronger the carrier. We just don't want any faulty bombs going off.

Some carriers are in hotter theaters than others. A politician, for example, has to run a tight ship with more control. She hires her political scientists and plans operations closely. Here is what I find heartening ...

Sarah Palin: “Palling around with terrorists.” That's right, Sarah! My jet can bring some powerful bombs to support the USS Palin — Bill Ayers bombs are like daisy cutters.

Hayworth vs. McCain:

JD Hayworth says Obama birth certificate an ‘identity theft’ issue
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2452548/posts

“McCain also frowns on Hayworth’s getting mired in the debate over President Obama’s birth certificate.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2454280/posts

Where do the “birther jets” land in Arizona? What about the “after-birther” jets? Who gets mired? It depends on YOU. For after-birthers, what trumps what? Borders, free speech, and cap & tax versus a guy who made a “horrible birther” remark?

Like the Parable of the Monkeys [with fire hose and taboo bananas], some will try to keep us in a bunker, remembering decades past when the truth was too dangerous to mention.

The Parable of the Monkeys [with fire hose and taboo bananas]
http://proliberty.com/observer//20080703.htm
“Suspended at the top if the cage was a bunch of bananas. There was a ladder from the floor of the cage up to the bananas. One of the monkeys, who was both clever and agile and also liked bananas, decided to head up the ladder ...”


Regarding Certifigate:

Joseph Farah: “I say, if it's been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.”
[Regardless of the man, what about the words? Does anyone honestly think those words are unreasonable?]

Poll — 58% of Republicans question Obama’s Constitutional Qualification
http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0709/58_of_GOP_not_suredont_beleive_Obama_born_in_US.html
[I agree that a KOS poll isn't the most accurate, but it's the only one I know of reg. republican %.]

Maelstorm: “There is no need for Glenn Beck, Breitbart, or anyone to defend a President who refuses to release his education records, his medical records, and yes he still hasn’t released a long form birth certificate.”

CaptainK: “All jobs require detailed information about your past. Why should the most important job in the nation get a pass?”

Some people say that other issues are ‘bigger fish to fry’, such as nationalizing entire industries.

Uncle Chip: “Do you see a connection between overlooking this little “technicality” [certifigate] and his takeover of private industry??? Unlawful does as unlawful is.” [Bingo. That’s why conservatives end up uniting if they think hard enough.]

Obama Trusters should be proud to be on the side of el McCain. McCain tries to belittle Hayworth for standing for the truth. I’m glad that I see eye-to-eye with Hayworth on this matter [as with every other matter I know of]. Are we to throw Hayworth under the bus? And protect McCain? Mock truth, and there's no telling who you might hurt.

Unity will never be brought through allowing the left to divide us, and RINOs are delighted to throw conservatives under the bus. McCain is typical of that — cussing out conservatives like a sailor and at the same time, he bows and scrapes like a toady at the leftist court. Creeps like him thrive from internal discord.

- - - -

I'm a birther? Yeah, I'm pro-motherhood. I'd be embarrassed trying to call people ‘birthers’, the perfect word for anyone who thinks birth is obscene and abortion is cool. That said, I'd rather be a birther than a sucker [who gives cover to brain suckers, partial birth abortion].

Some people tell us to focus on other issues. I would rather they said ‘prioritize’. Focus means ‘telescopic site’, which is lousy when you have a lot of moving targets.

- - - -

Next post coming ... the nitty-gritty.

3 posted on 02/23/2010 3:32:32 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: beckysueb
Never going to happen. Our entire government and media is involved in the coverup of who the usurper really is and are too terrified of someone or something to push the issue.

The people are the government! We don't need the media to accomplish this goal!
4 posted on 02/23/2010 3:34:57 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: All

Obama, the Mystery Man.

He’s too secretive. He might be other peoples’ president, but I don’t think of him as mine until he proves he’s constitutionally qualified.

Tigerseye has a list of just how secretive the left’s president is:

0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?
1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service? This supposed revelation of 0’s SS records has been debunked. Check with tigerseye who showed me this list.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham’s divorce decree.
24 Why did Barack Obama resign from the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why did Michelle Obama resign from the Illinois bar after only about four years of practice and where are all of the relevant documents?

[Compare this with someone’s background check to visit the White House or to work in a missile plant.]

- - -

Zero has chosen a very interesting law firm to represent him in certifigate:
Perkins Coie
http://yesbuthowever.com/perkins-coie-massachusetts-8136453
“The firm has successfully navigated close elections for Minnesota Senator Al Franken [recounted until it was ‘right’], Washington Governor Christine Gregoire and helped bend [break] election laws in New Jersey to benefit Senator Frank Lautenberg in 2002.”

“New Coach” Comparison:

Such a question to remain festering is inexcusable in a leader. A team sees some guy walking into the locker room claiming to be their new coach. Next to the ‘coach’ is a mobster and a thug [Ayers and Rezco].
How much should they trust this ‘coach’? Is it their fault if they wonder?

The coach says, “I was sent here by the other team.” [Annenberg vetting Obama]. Such ‘leadership’.

The [Terrorist loving] Hippies Who “Certified” Obama
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2454752/posts?page=36#36
http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/AnnenbergFactCheckers.htm

Obama was vetted by Annenberg. But they have a history of being cronies and sugerdaddies for Obama AND unrepentent terrorist, Bill Ayers. Obama and the terrorist had Annenberg offices near each other. Annenberg is the best the DNC could come up with to vet their candidate or Commander in Chief. Bill Ayers was a sworn enemy of US soldiers.

[And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. There is a huge army of intellectuals who signed a petition on behalf of the unrepentent terrorist. Bill Ayers, the bomb terrorist who recently said he “didn’t do enough”, and exhaustively reported to be the ghost writer and friend of Obama.]

Yeah, so don’t vet a DNC candidate unless you are his sugardaddy and crony with terrorists.

- - -

The coach hires a lawyer to hide his past from the team.

*** Note that not all of Zero’s law tab to Perkins Coie is related to certifigate. ***

Obama law tab up to $1.4 million
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=106138

“He used DOJ attorneys! These attorneys are paid by the U.S. taxpayer! And...He distracted these DOJ attorneys from the important work of keeping Americans safe!” — wintertime

Not that the actual amount matters. McCain showed his birth certificate and that ended the controversy. Perhaps a lawyer would want someone to stay in the bunker, but this is our nation’s leader and our military’s leader. He must EARN our trust and respect. Only a dictator can demand subservience.

- - - -

Some reasonable critics of ‘birthers’ try to alienate our most extreme elements. That is a good thing. We must thin the herd. So long as the critics are respectful toward reasonable certifigate hawks, I will attempt to be the same. But then there are the snarky “dignity imps” who are more worried about their image than the truth. They impishly pile on like sidekicks of a bully. They fear being on the losing side. They calculate. And they will never get along with hardworking conservative muckrakers.
Not knowing it, the sarcastic “Dignity Imps” are like a coward in the foxhole who stabs his buddy in the back and surrenders. Either that, or he’s a hideous combination of mental laziness and self righteous judgmentality.

- - - -

To understand why conservative leaders act so strangely about BO’s Certifigate scandal, you need to first understand history.

No Jail Time for Sandy Bergler
http://musing-minds.com/2005/09/08/no-jail-time-for-sandy-bergler

The American Spectator : Code Word Bergler
http://spectator.org/archives/2004/07/26/code-word-bergler

Politics of the past — President Bush [God love him] was giving the democrat party life support. Truth was “too dangerous to touch”. What is the thanks Bush gets? A vice president Biden who wants to hold war trials for the previous administration. Don’t play with rattlesnakes — end their ability to harm you. Defang them, even if it means their political destruction.

Did you ever hear the great uproar by the GOP over Clinton pardoning a crack dealer for cash?

Another Pardon, Another Controversy
http://speakout.com/activism/news/5653-1.html
Hugh Rodham [Hillary’s brother] received a contingency fee in connection with a pardon ... a scheme to distribute 800 pounds of crack cocaine [snip]

Imagine if Bush had pardoned a crack dealer for cash. How quiet would the DNC and the Drive-bys have been about it? The RNC is so issues-focused, they are obsessed about giving the DNC cover. It’s apparently been that way ever since Joe MacArthy. Conservative leaders have always held their punches. They rationalize away their fear. Back in William F. Buckley’s day, that was necessary. It’s a different world now with copy-paste, Control + A — web-communication and twitter.

- - - -

A deeper look at certifigate:

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html
http://www.jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2454803/posts?page=82#82

WND’s archive of news reports on Certifigate
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=98546

Recent Link Blasts on Certifigate by SatinDoll:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2447475/posts?page=268#268

Root Link for Feb 2010:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2447475/posts?page=299#299


5 posted on 02/23/2010 3:36:22 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Excellent Post. Long but well worth the read. Thank You.


6 posted on 02/23/2010 3:37:42 AM PST by Two-Bits (Our flag is the last beacon of freedom, fly this flag soaked by the blood of our very bravest)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: beckysueb
...Our entire government and media is involved in the coverup of who the usurper really is and are too terrified of someone or something to push the issue.

If the truth is/was that BO is/was constitutionally ineligible, it'll someday "bubble to the surface" ; and what a "movie of the week'" that'll make....

7 posted on 02/23/2010 3:38:34 AM PST by 1234 ("1984")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 1234

When, not if, the information becomes public, that Bowrama is not a natural born citizen, Beck, O’Reilly, etc. will be eating words!


8 posted on 02/23/2010 3:41:12 AM PST by Road Warrior 04 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: beckysueb

The citizens of Hawaii will need to change the Government, who will direct bureaucrats to perform their duties


9 posted on 02/23/2010 4:16:12 AM PST by Steven Tyler
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Two-Bits

Thank you for the kind words, FRiend.


10 posted on 02/23/2010 4:18:07 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: beckysueb

That is true, until Obummer becomes too big of a cost to the Democrat Party. I’ve predicted that in the Spring, it’ll be the Democrats calling to see Obummer’s birth certificate. I may be wrong, it may take until after the coming electoral implosion of the Dems in November.


11 posted on 02/23/2010 5:51:27 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I was thinking about that yesterday. Two of my kids came home, discussing lessons on George Washington, and Abraham Lincoln. I thought about it a minute, knowing the place of Lincoln’s birth, he went to school, then law school (where we have papers, decisions, court records of him practicing); then George Washington and the ‘cherry tree story’ (which is probably false, but a good story), but you still know about his birth, his growing up, school, friends, papers etc.

This was 150-200 years ago.

However, someone born less than 50 years ago, and there seems to be no 100% bullet proof identifying trace of him, and he’s not the President.

Just amazing to me.


12 posted on 02/23/2010 7:33:11 AM PST by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: 1234
While birth certificates are protected by privacy laws in the state of Hawaii, the Uniform Information Practices Act, Section 92-F12, mandates that “(15) Information collected and maintained for the purpose of making information available to the general public” must be released upon request. Therefore, when Dr. Fukino voluntarily made her public statement regarding Obama’s status, her department became obligated to release the backup information used to prepare it. To date, Hawaiian officials have refused to provide any correlating evidence used to craft Dr. Fukino’s public statement.

She opened her big mouth. Make her now put her documents where her big mouth was --

13 posted on 02/23/2010 7:52:56 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: beckysueb
Never going to happen. Our entire government and media is involved in the coverup of who the usurper really is and are too terrified of someone or something to push the issue

Maybe -- Maybe Not. But we have to do our part in order to get them to either do their legally required duty, or force them to come to grips with the source of their cowardice.

14 posted on 02/23/2010 8:00:03 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: wizard1961; TigersEye

Regarding the overall strategy of muckraking conservatives:

[Please note post 3]

Anti-establishment people have always been the strategic allies of conservatism. They mistrust big government. They embrace freedom: the right to free speech, the right to bear arms. If anti-establishment muckrakers don’t belong with conservatives any more, many will find other places to belong, like militia groups. Shutting them out would be foolish.

I remember the early days of this forum. Militia groups tried to infiltrate us and take us over. We countered that we could take on big government through free speech and political activism. I’m speaking from at least some experience on this. I believe we re-channeled negative energy into positive use. Anti-establishment people need to be finessed, not battered with a sledge hammer.


15 posted on 02/23/2010 8:12:00 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Ro_Thunder

Wow, quite a way of looking it it! I’ll quote you some time. FRegards ....


16 posted on 02/23/2010 8:13:12 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I'm a birther? Yeah, I'm pro-motherhood. I'd be embarrassed trying to call people ‘birthers’, the perfect word for anyone who thinks birth is obscene and abortion is cool. That said, I'd rather be a birther than a sucker [who gives cover to brain suckers, partial birth abortion].

You may be onto something.

Birthers are Pro-Life -- Pro Life for our Republic -- Pro_Life for our Constitution -- Pro-Life for the weakest amongst us -- Pro-Life for our future.

Afterbirthers are Pro-Abortion -- Pro-Death of our Republic -- Pro-Death of our Constitution -- Pro-Death for the weakest amongst us -- Pro-Death for our future.

Deuteronomy 30:19

17 posted on 02/23/2010 8:22:16 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Uncle Chip; cricket

Right you are, Uncle Chip. And if you look at two different news sources, Drudge and WND, who fights harder for life? Hands down, WND. God bless Drudge too. But WND is avidly pro-life and “birther”. Boortz is pro-abortion and after-birther. It often fits, but not always. It’s a matter of odds, the people who dominate the after-birthers and the leading ‘birthers’.

If I remember correctly, Cricket was the one who helped me brainstorm that response. Mainly his brain that came up with this.


18 posted on 02/23/2010 8:30:13 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Is it any coincidence that the One who came to power by aborting Article II of the Constitution and subsequently sending out minions of pro-abortion Afterbirthers to try to stomp on its lifeless remains so as to destroy all remembrance of its existence is also the most Pro-Abortion occupant to sit in the Oval Office???


19 posted on 02/23/2010 8:43:59 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Uncle Chip

I agree. People who do not value innocent life are fundamentally flawed. Single issue voters on innocent life have a point, don’t they?


20 posted on 02/23/2010 8:47:55 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson