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Anti-War Hiroshima A-Bomb Book Caught With Multiple Fictions
Publius Forum ^ | 03/02/10 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 03/02/2010 10:03:59 AM PST by Mobile Vulgus

When it debuted the left instantly hailed it as an anti-war masterpiece. The book "The Last Train from Hiroshima," a popular history of the WWII A-Bomb drops on Japan, quickly accumulated much acclaim. This was "gleaming" wartime history according to The New York Times. It was so poignant and solemn that moviemaker James Camereon was said to be considering making a movie based on the book. It wasn't long, though, before major questions about the veracity of the tale were raised.

The author of the book, Charles Pellegrino, used the experiences of at least three participants in the bombings at important junctures in the book. He reported the experiences of one of the U.S. airmen that was aboard the Enola Gay as well as two European Jesuit priests that were living in Hiroshima during the bombing.

But now comes the admission from the author that two of these three people don't even exist, and a third lied about his service on the Enloa Gay casting doubt on Pellegrino's whole endeavor...

Read the rest at Publiusforum.com...


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: charlespellegrino; hiroshima; newyorktimes; pellegrino; revisionism; smithsonian; whatuttercrap; wwii
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21 posted on 03/02/2010 11:40:40 AM PST by Maverick68 (w)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
The left goes bonkers about Hiroshima yet barely, if ever, mentions Dresden or Hamburg. Fascinating!

That's left to the Paultards and Buchananites.

22 posted on 03/02/2010 11:42:13 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
How about London? The Germans started targeting civilian population centers, The RAF just gave back what they got from the Luftwaffe, V1 buzz bombs, and V2 ballistic missiles

Which is precisely why the Germans lost the Battle of Britain. After Berlin was bombed, Hitler wanted to focus on bombing civilians instead of strategic military facilities, it was the breather the British needed.

23 posted on 03/02/2010 11:44:03 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Arthur McGowan
BTW: It was mass murder. So were Tokyo, Dresden, etc., etc. It was terror-bombing, not military bombing.

Pound sand!

24 posted on 03/02/2010 11:46:34 AM PST by xone
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To: SJSAMPLE
Both sides had somewhat of a “gentlemen’s agreement” about bombing London or Berlin.

First time I've heard that although I understand that Hitler had a grudging respect for the British. However he had no such compunctions about any of the other European nations.

Regards,
GtG

25 posted on 03/02/2010 11:47:19 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: napscoordinator

What??? Just because the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor???


26 posted on 03/02/2010 12:20:16 PM PST by Erasmus (Armageddon sentimental over you.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

I guess it depends on your definition of “unavoidable.”

BTW: the concept of “just war,” as I have read it, is crap. Its just a way to guarantee that the barbarians (who don’t fight according to ANY rules) win.


27 posted on 03/02/2010 12:40:51 PM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Erasmus

he’s on a roll.

i just finished 4 books on DOWNFALL, the proposed invasion of japan. casualties would have passed 500,000 for the allies and the japanese would have lost millions. a blockade instead of invasion would also have killed millions of japanese. the anti-bombing, truman lied about casuallties people throw out figures that were estimates. these estimates increased as more became known about the japanese defenses.


28 posted on 03/02/2010 12:45:11 PM PST by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I believe he thinks he is the male counterpart to Rigoberta Menchu, except I don’t see a Peace Prize in his future.


29 posted on 03/02/2010 12:53:09 PM PST by Senior Chief (Here I am, right where I left myself.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
BTW: It was mass murder. So were Tokyo, Dresden, etc., etc. It was terror-bombing, not military bombing.
What foolish nonsense. We expected at least half a million casualties of OUR troops with an invasion of Japan. Likely the death toll of Japanese would have been three times that.

WAR, my friend, is not a dinner party. It means KILLING the enemy and the Japanese people supported their war effort with all their hearts. THEY were the enemy and not one American should feel any sadness over the deaths at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. None.

30 posted on 03/02/2010 2:21:36 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus

You have missed the point. Murder is always wrong, no matter how desirable some of its effects are.

Is it okay for a wife to poison her husband if she stands to inherit $10, or $10,000, or $100,000,000,000? Is it okay to kill a baby if it means being able to go to the prom, or to finish college, or to win a beauty contest?

Once you say that you can murder people if the purpose is good enough, then the decision about WHEN the purpose is good enough is entirely up to the murderer and nobody else.

If you argue that dropping the bombs on Japan saved a few million Americans and Japanese, I can say that dropping the bombs established the principle by which both the Japanese and Americans have murdered tens of millions of their own babies. And we would both be right.


31 posted on 03/02/2010 2:40:40 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

No, you miss the point. Murder is not properly used for defining the sort of deaths in war that we are talking about. Your use of murder is false and your examples are a false dichotomy. Apples and oranges as they say.


32 posted on 03/02/2010 3:45:17 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus

When soldiers deliberately kill civilians they are charged with...wait for it...wait for it...wait for it...murder!


33 posted on 03/02/2010 4:31:16 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

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34 posted on 03/02/2010 4:34:16 PM PST by VOA
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To: LS

Ping.


35 posted on 03/02/2010 4:38:03 PM PST by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

To put it another way: The distinction is PRECISELY between killing that is murder and killing that is not murder.

When civilians are targeted and killed deliberately, they have been murdered, whether the killing was done by a soldier or pilot contrary to orders, or in obedience to orders. If done in obedience to orders, the guilty include those who initiated the orders, no matter how far up the chain of command.

In WWII, American officers were in constant battle with British officers about terror bombing. The distinction was precisely between bombing military assets and bombing civilians for purposes of terror. The objections raised by the Americans were based PRECISELY on the assertion that targeting civilians was murder.

The notion that in war you can just slaughter people is a barbaric macho attitude that has no place in the American military, and never has.

The deliberate killing of civilians in WWII, including the dropping of the atomic bombs, was a descent into barbarism. It is perfectly understandable, given the demented, psychotic barbarity of the Japanese, but it was still murder.


36 posted on 03/02/2010 4:43:02 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Bill Whittle is up to his usual high standards with his essay “The truth about the atomic bombs”.

http://pajamasmedia.com/ejectejecteject/2009/05/19/the-truth-about-the-atomic-bombs-print-version/

Well worth the read.

37 posted on 03/02/2010 6:05:13 PM PST by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Hiroshima was not targeted by accident.

It was the primary Naval base of the Empire.

Nagasaki was not targeted by accident.

It was the primary Maritime shipping port of the Empire.

38 posted on 03/02/2010 6:13:40 PM PST by Castlebar
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To: Arthur McGowan
The notion that in war you can just slaughter people is a barbaric macho attitude that has no place in the American military,...
It really is a redherring to say that carpet bombing in a world war is murder. It's insane, actually. You have no basis to argue that war at ALL is "legitimate" killing using your abstruse distinctions.
39 posted on 03/02/2010 6:17:56 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Arthur McGowan
When civilians are targeted and killed deliberately, they have been murdered, whether the killing was done by a soldier or pilot contrary to orders, or in obedience to orders. If done in obedience to orders, the guilty include those who initiated the orders, no matter how far up the chain of command.

Nice assertion, prove it! That they were 'civilian'.

usmilitary.about.com

40 posted on 03/02/2010 7:46:53 PM PST by xone
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