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Posted on 03/02/2010 10:03:59 AM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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You mean like the bombings of Warsaw and Rotterdam were 'mistakes'?
A just war can only be waged as a last resort. All non-violent options must be exhausted before the use of force can be justified.
A war is just only if it is waged by a legitimate authority. Even just causes cannot be served by actions taken by individuals or groups who do not constitute an authority sanctioned by whatever the society and outsiders to the society deem legitimate.
A just war can only be fought to redress a wrong suffered. For example, self-defense against an armed attack is always considered to be a just cause (although the justice of the cause is not sufficient--see point #4). Further, a just war can only be fought with "right" intentions: the only permissible objective of a just war is to redress the injury.
A war can only be just if it is fought with a reasonable chance of success. Deaths and injury incurred in a hopeless cause are not morally justifiable.
The ultimate goal of a just war is to re-establish peace. More specifically, the peace established after the war must be preferable to the peace that would have prevailed if the war had not been fought.
The violence used in the war must be proportional to the injury suffered. States are prohibited from using force not necessary to attain the limited objective of addressing the injury suffered.
The weapons used in war must discriminate between combatants and non-combatants. Civilians are never permissible targets of war, and every effort must be taken to avoid killing civilians. The deaths of civilians are justified only if they are unavoidable victims of a deliberate attack on a military target.
A strong proponent, the not lamented and now late Howard Zinn, re-writer of American history. Sound high and mighty fine; look at the last paragraph, no frag weapons. Why, because they are indiscriminate. This is pointy headed academics or worse.
In the beginning, yes. He thought the British would be more scared of the Bolsheviks, and would be willing to make a deal with Hitler, where Hitler would have his colonies in the East, if it eradicated the Soviet threat, and he would stake no claims on any British colonies. Basically, England and Germany would rule the world together. Of course when he realized that British would not have it, that respect turned to anger. Ribbentrop, especially wound up being the biggest British hater of all, when earlier he was a great admirer.
OK, so are you saying our participation in WWII was not just?
“Just War theory” has been around since Augustine, at the latest. It’s hardly a plot hatched by the Left.
Of course not, neither are the bomber crews guilty of murder.
It has been co-opted by the left, look at the upgrades to it. Lot of fragmentation weapons in Augustine's era? In the thread I referenced, the additional reading list is populated by lefties. Historical revisionism has always been a tool of the left. Sorry you fell for it and felt the need to blacken the names of men called to fight in the toughest life or death struggle in the 20th century. Well done.
No, it wasn't.
Tokyo, Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were all bombings of military targets as per international law at the time.
Anyone who tells you differently is peddling a lie.
Murder is always wrong, by defintion. However, you have not proven that the aerial bombings that we are discussing constitute murder.
On a related point, I'd argue on the basis of Scripture that telling a malicious lie is always wrong. Wouldn't you agree?
Yea the first half and the second half! ;-0
The Second Vatican Council denounced the bombing of “entire cities” as “criminal.”
Not a bunch of lefty revisionists.
An actual mistake.
So an ex post facto condemnation of murder? Nice to have the Vatican chime in after the allies saved its ass. Still doesn't explain the co-opting by the left on the use of indiscriminate weapons in war. The majority of weapons are. I guess the Vatican didn't know that. I wonder if they condemned the earlier Pope's use of artillery on 'entire cities' as criminal? At least it means the Vatican will be unlikely to field an air force.
Tonight (1am EDT) for first hour, the author of the book will be on Coast to Coast AM. http://streamingradioguide.com/radio-show.php?show=667
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