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Democrats Confirm They Will Use 'Nuclear Option' on Healthcare
Conservative Examiner ^ | 3/4/2010 | Anthony G. Martin

Posted on 03/04/2010 11:04:50 AM PST by Welshman007

Repeatedly during his tenure as a U.S. Senator and as a Presidential candidate in 2007-08, Barack Obama asserted that the so-called 'nuclear option' or 'reconciliation' provision that allows bills to pass with 51 votes rather than the normal required 60 votes is a terrible idea and would not be prudent for approving healthcare legislation.

Not only is Obama on the printed record stating his opposition to such bullying tactics but he is on video at least 3 times repeating his belief that 'one cannot adequately govern with only a 51-vote majority on something as massive as a healthcare overhaul.'

Here is a video of Obama and the Democrats opining againt the nuclear option.

Yet this is precisely the option that Obama now intends to use, and Democrats in Congress are more than willing to go along..

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bhofail; healthcare; nuclearoption; obamacare

1 posted on 03/04/2010 11:04:50 AM PST by Welshman007
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To: Welshman007

You boys and girls better enjoy the next eight months, while you can!

2 posted on 03/04/2010 11:06:45 AM PST by bergmeid (Gas up the truck and pedal to the metal!)
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To: Welshman007

Does anyone have access to those videos of Obama?

3 posted on 03/04/2010 11:07:50 AM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: Welshman007

One of these days - and soon - we will need to decide as individuals just how many of our Constitutional freedoms were are willing to cede to majority rule.

4 posted on 03/04/2010 11:09:09 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Welshman007

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.


Bambi doesn’t keep his buyer beware!


PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.

Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!


Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security,

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan

Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)

Obama: No reduced Medicare benefits in health care reform

Will healthcare reform mean cuts in Medicare for seniors?

Health Reform’s Hidden Victims Young people and seniors would pay a high price for ObamaCare.


TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.

5 posted on 03/04/2010 11:17:39 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: Welshman007
they will pass this bill knowing that it WILL take a super majority to repeal it. The republicans have never enjoyed a super majority like this.

Basically 50 50% of the public doesn't pay taxes and will tell the other 50% to pay for their health insurance.

6 posted on 03/04/2010 11:20:34 AM PST by erman (Our President-A modest man, who has much to be modest about.)
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To: Welshman007
A nuclear legislative option now reaps them a nuclear electoral winter next November.
7 posted on 03/04/2010 11:22:15 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Welshman007
You know its bad when a CATO journal article can be used against the idea of Government Run Health care.

"Studies have shown that countries with greater economic freedom – meaning the protection of private property and private markets operating with minimal government interference – have greater rates of economic growth than countries with lower levels of economic freedom (Cole, 2003; Strum and DeHann, 2001; Powell, 2003; Gwartney, 2009)."

Cole, J. H. “The Contribution of Economic Freedom to World Economic Growth, 1980-99.” Cato Journal, vol. 23, no. 2, Fall 2003, pp. 189-198.

8 posted on 03/04/2010 11:24:21 AM PST by tarpit
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in fact, I think it is safe to say that research from the CATO Institute as well as research from the Federal Reserve shows that Government run health care is not a good thing.

9 posted on 03/04/2010 11:26:26 AM PST by tarpit
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To: erman

Actually, I think it’s more like 90% of the taxes are paid by 10% of the population.

10 posted on 03/04/2010 11:33:49 AM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First FAILED "light skinned African American [Pres-ent] with no Negro dialect..")
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To: Welshman007

Strap on the gear, folks. The Democratic Party is openly declaring war on the citizens of this country.

11 posted on 03/04/2010 11:45:10 AM PST by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: Welshman007

Always amazes me when you see a guy sitting on a bomb threatening to push the button. (C’ya! ... this will clean out the gene pool!)

12 posted on 03/04/2010 12:52:52 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ( - The Patriot's Flag)
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To: bergmeid
"Democrats Confirm They Will Use 'Nuclear Option' on Healthcare"

"You boys and girls better enjoy the next eight months, while you can!"

If the Democrats try to pass this POS using reconciliation, and either succeed or fail after a huge fuss, their losses in November will be massive.

The turnover in seats in 1994 was 54 in the House and 8 in the Senate, and while this appeared to be unprecedented, it actually was not. In the 1920s, 40s and 50s such turnover was not common but was neither uncommon. I don't have time to check but I recall 80-90 seats one year in the House and 15 or so in the Senate.

If a furious voting public turned over 80 seats in the House and 12 in the Senate, this would not be enough to overturn the legislation itself but no doubt the Democrats would leap to have just such an opportunity. That would certainly be the coup de grace to our that leftist POS that we call a President.

13 posted on 03/04/2010 2:31:07 PM PST by tom h
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