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To: rolling_stone

No they say they are on record nothing more. They don’t say what hospital he was born in which is the major point of contention. You continually post excerpts of old material without the follow up. Are you uninformed or disingenuous? Example see info in post 65 which you conveniently left out.


There is no constitutional requirement that a person be born in a hospital. There is no additional information on a Hawaii long form birth certificate that helps to determine constitutional eligibility. The long form has hospital, doctor’s name, parents’ address and parens’ race. That’s what is additional from what is on the short form.
Here is a link to the State of Hawaii’s FAQ on Obama’s COLB.
It might be good for you to read it:
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html
I think the informaton they provide helps to explain why no court and no judge or justice has been willing to touch the Obama eligibility issue, including the US Supreme Court.
As for your attitude, there’s no need to get snippy! ;-)


73 posted on 03/08/2010 12:46:48 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777
There is no constitutional requirement that a person be born in a hospital. There is no additional information on a Hawaii long form birth certificate that helps to determine constitutional eligibility.

Technically, you might get a better idea if the parents are American citizens, which would ensure the child was an NBC. The reason for seeing the long-form is because the alleged COLB has so many problems with it - problems taht aren't sufficiently addressed by the DOH FAQ page.

75 posted on 03/08/2010 12:50:10 PM PST by edge919
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To: jamese777
I think the informaton they provide helps to explain why no court and no judge or justice has been willing to touch the Obama eligibility issue, including the US Supreme Court.
As for your attitude, there’s no need to get snippy! ;-)

Sorry, no court has touched the issue because of standing or jurisdiction, not facts surrounding his birth. Another straw man argument. As for Hawaii, and their statements, I am well aware of their statements, their responses to Information requests including my own and I am aware of their laws concerning issuance of BC’s and how they could have been easily circumvented.

Why is Hawaii DOH hiding information if everything is on the up and up?

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/03/05/hawaii-department-of-health-has-conspired-against-the-public-for-5-months/

The name of the hospital and doctor is of great importance and could clear up a lot of things, however it is not in the public domain. It is not a requirement that he be born in a hospital but that information if available could be verified with the doctor or hospital, which it has not been. Another straw man argument by you.

As for me being "snippy", why don't you try presenting all the facts not just ones that tend to support your agenda? Investigators deal with facts, in their full context, not "snipped" like yours. I weigh the value of your posts and "evidence" with the accuracy they have shown to lack.

82 posted on 03/08/2010 1:09:33 PM PST by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: jamese777
The long form has hospital, doctor’s name, parents’ address and parens’ race. That’s what is additional from what is on the short form.

Also parents birthplaces, occupations and ages For example, the mother of the Nordyke twins was born in Los Angeles, California and had no outside occupation. Their father was a doctor and was born in Woodland, California. Their mother was 34, their father 42.

Birthplaces at least give a starting point for citizenship, no?

Also, the races of the parents *are* on the short form. That's one of things people question, since BHO Sr. is listed as "African", which would be unusual nomenclature, especially in 1961, when one would expect "Negro, or Negroid". Perhaps more likely the latter, given that his mother is shown as "Caucasion" rather than "white".

Boers from southern Africa are "African" just as much as Luos from Kenya. If his father had been an Australian Aborigine we would not expect "Australian" would we?

117 posted on 03/08/2010 5:02:10 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: jamese777
There is no constitutional requirement that a person be born in a hospital.

No, there isn't.

BO, however, claimed to have been born in a hospital.

137 posted on 03/08/2010 7:52:04 PM PST by thecodont
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