Re: Wallis’ “God’s Politics” blog.
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Why I’m Thanking God for Obama
“..But the “theologies of liberation”.. go on to a disastrous confusion between the poor of the Scripture and the proletariat of Marx.” ~ Pope Benedict XVI
Some would have us pervert justice by favoring the poor. Leviticus 19:15
Of course, no one here knows anyone who would think of perverting justice by favoring the proletariat, do we? :)
Posted by: Matchett-PI | August 7, 2008 4:04 PM
Rick Nowlin wrote: ".. To sum things up, it's a slur to call someone a Marxist when you have no intention in Jesus' name to improve conditions for the poor and powerless .."
On the contrary, it's a slur to the poor (of Scripture) to confuse them with the proletariat of the atheist, Marx. No informed person will call anyone a "Marxist" unless he confuses the poor of Scriptures with the proletariat of Marx. (Please re-read what I posted above. I think you missed the point).
Rick Nowlin wrote: "..I subscribe to Reformed theology, which assumes the sovereignty of God over every area of life -- including finances. .."
I am Reformed, myself, I'm not a Roman Catholic, as I disagree with their soteriology (among other things). I do quote the pope, though, when it comes to subjects such as the various theories of evolution, etc.
For instance, the RCC's teaching on proper Christian stewardship of God's creation, is in line with that of the orthodox Reformed church's teaching. Marx would definitely NOT approve of it, nor would the confused Wright. I doubt if Obama would either, based on things his wife said that let that cat out of the bag.
I'll post it below and maybe we could ask Obama about that, too, in addition to the question I wanted to see him answer in my first post: Pope John Paul II, taught, and now Pope Benedict XVI teaches that proper stewardship of our environment is one of the individual Christian's responsibilities toward God, BUT in this order:
"..an authentic...theology: [is] one that puts  God and the life of the spirit first,  direct charitable care of others second,  and only then draws consequences for a just social order." http://ncrcafe.org/node/1091">HERE
At a Vatican conference on climate change, Pope Benedict urged bishops, scientists and politicians - including UK environment secretary David Miliband - to "respect creation" while "focusing on the needs of sustainable development". The Pope's message ... that "disregard for the environment always harms human coexistence, and vice versa".
.. About four years ago theprogressives began ..redefining environmentalism as "creation care", ....
Although the World Council of Churches in Geneva has had a department to investigate climate change since 1990, churches have come late to the debate. "The [environment and religion] is a no-brainer, but we are all only now realising it", said Claire Foster, environmental policy adviser to the Church of England.
[[[ NOTE: World Council of Churches is the largest coalition of leftist religious denominations in the United States and has a long record of financial support for Communist regimes: HERE ]]]]
[[[ Pope Benedict, on the other hand, denounces Marxist/Communist influence warning where it leads: HERE ]]]
Many faiths also realise their potential to influence politicians and financiers. A survey by US bank Citigroup found that the 11 major faiths now embrace 85% of the world's population and are the world's third largest group of financial investors. In the US the United methodist church pension fund alone is worth $12bn-$15bn (£6bn-£7bn). Total investment of US churches is nearly $70bn. Switching to ethical [green] investments would be hugely significant. [Follow the money as usual.]
One Catholic priest impatient for change is Seán McDonagh, a Columban missionary and author of books on ecology and religion. "The Catholic church's social teaching on human rights and justice has been good, but there has been little concern about the impact on the planet. The church has been caught up on its emphasis on development and on resisting population control, but if we are pro-life we should be banging the drum now about climate change." .."
Source: John Vidal and Tom Kington in Rome Friday April 27, 2007 The Guardian HERE