Skip to comments.CNN: Investigators Unable To Recreate Runaway Prius After 2 Hours of Trying (Video)
Posted on 03/14/2010 10:16:04 PM PDT by Talkradio03
Draft memo obtained by CNN: "It's feasibly not possible both electronically and mechanically that the gas pedal was stuck and that Mr. Sikes could have been slamming on the brake pedal at the same time and not have the car slow down" (Prius story debunked, 2 videos)
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After I heard the 911 call I had my doubts. Any modern car will stop if you either, smash the brake down, use the emergency brake, shift in neutral, or turn the key back until only the eletronics work.
I have been smelling a big scam since these Prius stories surfaced.
Just like the Audi stories of the 70s, some dumb bugger hit the gas instead of the brake — initially — and then other lying cheating scumbags smelling lawsuit cash have chimed in hoping to hit Toyota in the wallet for “damages.”
Needles in a Pepsi can? Cooked finger in a Wendy’s chili?
” use the emergency brake, shift in neutral, or turn the key back until only the eletronics work.”
This is what I want to know.!!!!
While I have driven many cars and over one million miles in my life, I have not driven, but just a few times, since I left the USA in Jan. 2005.
I never saw a car that could not be switched off (first click of the ignition switch) or one that could not be shifted into neutral while moving, or inoperable brakes.
Are the cars that much different now?
I’d like to see a poll that asked whether the Prius incident was real or faked, and I’d like to see it broken down along ideological lines. I’ll bet ten bucks liberals would say real and conservatives faked. Everything is political these days, from the weather to your gas pedal.
This fraud guy was told about 20 times by the 911 police operator to put it in neutral but he kept saying he could not. The whole thing is a fraud. The guy was broke and his car was behind on his payments etc etc.
Almost every thing I have read, have heard and been told is modern brakes will stop any car. This was true with the Audi 5000/100.
Call 60 Minutes, they know how to make a run-away car.
I drive a 2000 Cav and I think the same holds true in all cars, that you can shift from drive to netural without depressing the button on the shifter or the brake. Also I think all cars have the two clicks to start a car, one click turns on the electronics and the next starts the engine. If it wasn’t for modern locking steering wheels it should be possible to steer a car with no power at all.
I've got a 2005 SUV with 4WD-Low capability that I need in winter for my steep country driveway. I went out one very cold morning and the engine was initially racing (around 1800 RPM). I threw it in 1st (1-low) and it started moving forward like it could climb a tree. I hit the brakes but they had iced and it seemed at first like I couldn't stop the car. So I really stood on the brake pedal, and it stopped the car with some effort.
Modern brakes will stop any car. Of course they might get kinda warm in the process if the engine is racing.
Someone got their 15 minutes with the “can’t stop” story.
Corny, but someone felt the need to do it...
Good point. If they are wet or really cold it can be a tougher. When they start to warm it will stop. Your setup probably has pretty strong pulling power too w/4WD. Very cold, 4WD, 1st low low gear, iced brakes. I would say that is a pretty good test.
I wonder if the electronics computer in cars backs off the throttle if people slam on the brakes.
This whole toyo thing is BS.
The only real accident appears that cop in the Lexus with messed up floor mats. It was a loaner cause his car was being serviced. The mats were the wrongd size or something. Cheaps Ford even have little hooks to hold the drivers mat from sliding forward.
That's because liberals never believe anything is their fault and conservatives believe that people are responsible for their own actions.
Furthermore, conservatives are more likely to be convinced that responsible manufacturers, such as Toyota, test the every-loving bejeezuz out of EVERY component that goes into their cars and it is highly unlikely that they would allow a defective design in such a critical area to make it into production.
Additionally, conservatives have become jaded and disillusioned by the large numbers of potential scam artists and crooks out there who have cheerfully jumped into these controversies in the past, hoping for a free piece of the monetary settlements that might be made available. Liberals do not see anything wrong with that, because they believe that all corporate profits are dishonestly obtained anyhow, and any goodies they can get are justified.
Conservatives are more likely to feel sympathy for the workers, stockholders and product owners who see their efforts and investments improperly diminished by the actions of jackels eager to cash in on unproven allegations.
You are saying that if I burn my crotch with McDonald's coffee when my Toyota accelerates out of control, I shouldn't be able to sue for millions?
Waddayou, some kinda commie? Get me Edwards on the phone. Now!
Pressing it when going less than 5 mph will cause a "parking-brake" action.
Pressing it when going over 5 mph will cause the engine to shift into neutral - then the driver can simply apply brakes and stop in a safe location.
Failing that, holding down the power switch for three seconds will actually shut the engine down completely.
This guy was a complete hoax.
My wife’s RX300 has the little floor hooks as well and it is a 2000.
Yep. Of course, shifting to neutral eliminates the problem, but since in my case I was trying to maneuver the car around, I needed it to be in gear. :)
> I wonder if the electronics computer in cars backs off the throttle if people slam on the brakes.
I dunno. Interesting thought.
I had a buddy in the 70's who drove his automatic with both feet -- right on the accelerator, left on the brake. It was so he could keep the engine going (otherwise it tended to stall at idle). He went through brake pads like crazy.
> This whole toyo thing is BS.
Yep. Smells like somebody is trying to destroy the competition by innuendo rather than in the marketplace.
> Everything is political these days, from the weather to your gas pedal.
No, this is about engineering.
The 2008 Prius’ engine can get it from 0 to 60 in about 11 seconds.
The 2008 Prius’ branks can get it from 60 to 0 in about 3 seconds.
You can do the math. :-)
Another thing that the MSM never mentions: some of these alleged unintended accelerators are several years old, why are all of these cases suddenly happening now? Hmmm...
Exactly. Talk about a ready-made class action lawsuit for the looters. All you need is an easily fabricated story.
Ha! Good luck. He’s too busy fixing his hair and apologizing to his mirror reflection for his oppsies.
I think it may be a combo. Destroy the competition.
I also think it is beat up the biggest transplant auto manufacture to scare the other transplants with non-union factories (Nissan, Honda, BMW Hyndai, Mercedes, etc etc). Then the UAW thug try to force their way into the non-union factories or else - you get the Toyota treatment.
Obama, his Chicago goons, the UAW and other unions are so evil assited by their trail lawyer buddies.
My husband said there was something funny about that guy. You’re supposed to put the car in neutral.
I had a similar experience with a ‘78 Delta (it was 25+ years old at the time). Sometimes for no whatever reason the engine would start revving like mad while in neutral/park, or even just coming from a dead stop. I was always able to stop the car by slamming hard on the brakes.
If a rustbucket from 1978 could handle that, I can’t see how a Prius could not.
The whole reason the gov’t wanted a majority stake in GM, was so that they could bully the competition (i.e. possibly better cars) with impunity and drive them out of the market. After what I’ve seen, I won’t even consider buying a GM vehicle, until the gov’t sells off it’s ownership and allows the free market to be just that: free. I’m pretty sure I’m not alone on that point. I wonder if the gov’t thought about that first, or if they don’t even care. Are they going to prop up a failing car company forever, if no one buys the cars? Reminds me of Weekend at Bernie’s.
I posted that the recent prius story sounded fishy the day it hit the press.
Someone should check for a deposit in his bank account (or purchases, payments), right before this.
Here is my vote: FAKED!
What got me was the comment that the car eventually stopped when stepping on the brakes and applying the emergency brake at the same time.
Pressing the brake pedal actuates all 4 wheels. The emergency brake uses the same brake components only without use of the pedal. Applying both gives NO extra braking power over just the brake pedal.
I am not that familiar with the prius, but I do know it has a push button ignition in their ads.
I don't think so..!
As soon as I heard this story it made no sense to me.. actually a Prius doing 90 makes no sense but that’s another story.
Actually, that's not true in cars that have rear disk brakes. The rear brakes in my car are a combination of drums and disks. The brake pedal actuates the rear (and front) disks and the parking brake actuates the rear drums.
And I’m pretty sure that last was a case of non-Toyota aftermarket mats, and not official Toyota parts at fault.
“Mr. Sikes didn’t know that the Toyota Prius has a safety feature, when you press both the brake pedal and gas pedal to the floor, the engine shuts off... “
LOL!! So instead of Balloon Boy, we have Gas Pedal Guy.
CNN is incompetent. Call Dateline.
Very true. However if the back drums are not adjusted optimally, partially engaging the emergency brake prior to pedal braking will enhance the stopping ability of the vehicle. So says my E-150 while grossly overloaded with tools.
Not only is 90 possible, but Al Gore's inconvenient son was busted for doing 100 in a Prius.
Unfortunately, not all Toyautos have this feature. But Toyauto is busy adding it to all their cars. Too bad safety wasn't a priority for them a few years ago.
And now a word from Toyota owners.
“And Im pretty sure that last was a case of non-Toyota aftermarket mats, and not official Toyota parts at fault.”
I think that was what happened with that Lexus in CA. Floor mats are a real simple thing until they get wedged on the gas pedal. If they are not factory or have the hole for teh little hooks - a little thing can become a big problem fast.
The Marxist Obama group is consciously and purposely destroying one of the most successful private companies in the world - Toyota. Toyota is an especially desirable target for this gang - who are enemies of capitalistm - since Toyota employs so many people in the U.S. and capitalist Japan and elsewhere.
By the time Obama’s group is through with Toyota, the roll of the unemployed will swell greatly. That result certainly seems to be their aim. All day long on CNN and its web equivalents - Toyota this, Toyota that. The media networks - even Fox News - are complacent about the nuclear threat to the world - practically silent. The media focus rather on first highly suspicous, then outright bogus reports of out of control cars.
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