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Under Obamacare, IRS Has Power to Penalize Americans Who Refuse to Buy Required Insurance
Associated Content (AC) ^ | March 20, 2010 | Marc Schenker

Posted on 03/20/2010 2:03:31 AM PDT by Suvroc10

In another indictment of Obamacare, a congressional report has found that the IRS will have the power to penalize, by means of fines, Americans who refuse to buy required, government insurance. This further, nauseating factor of Obamacare is actually merely a symptom of what the report by the House Ways and Means Committee is really saying: greatly expanded powers for the IRS to encroach upon the lives of average Americans. In the report titled "The Wrong Prescription: Democrats' Health Overhaul Dangerously Expands IRS Authority," other ills of Obamacare are outlined in ever more shocking detail. Some of these include the power of the IRS under Obamacare to: confiscate Americans' tax refunds as a doubly insulting complement to aforementioned penalties for not buying government-mandated insurance; the likelihood of IRS audits (always nice around this time of year) increasing; and the swelling of an already unpopular bureaucracy by increasing by nearly 17000 the number of IRS auditors and agents!

(Excerpt) Read more at associatedcontent.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: americans; bendoveramerica; irs; obamacare; penalize; romney; romneycare; tax; taxes; thepowertopunish

1 posted on 03/20/2010 2:03:31 AM PDT by Suvroc10
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To: Suvroc10

The IRS will be checking every single legal US citizen once a month to ensure compliance ...
Have a nice day,
Nancy P.


2 posted on 03/20/2010 2:11:33 AM PDT by PIF
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To: Suvroc10
It's astonishing how they can't check people to see if, you know, they're here illegally or not, but they're all ramped up to check citizens and steal more of their money.

I'd suggest that if one wants to see where Obama's true dedication is, look at his policies--protecting illegals vs. penalizing and insulting Americans; stepping on or ignoring good allies while kissing up to terrorist religions--but these days that makes one a hater.

3 posted on 03/20/2010 2:16:24 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Conservative Bostonian, atheist pro-lifer, soon be gone)
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To: Suvroc10

I’ll die or go to prison before I allow this to be a part of my life. Damn Obama and all those that support him.


4 posted on 03/20/2010 2:20:50 AM PDT by Brytani (Will someone PLEASE give Obama a Monica so we can impeach him?)
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To: Brytani

The question is how much will it take before adults will say enough is enough and arrest these domestic terrorists who have committed crimes against the United States of America and from within.


5 posted on 03/20/2010 2:28:43 AM PDT by A. Morgan (ZER0 is a BIG LIAR!)
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To: Suvroc10

But, Hey, obamalama just “created 17,000 new jobs!”. His legacy is spared.


6 posted on 03/20/2010 2:33:46 AM PDT by Artie
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To: STARWISE; maggief; Liz; onyx; SE Mom; Bahbah; penelopesire

OH boy!


7 posted on 03/20/2010 2:36:24 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: A. Morgan

I hope we are there - if not, I’m on my own.


8 posted on 03/20/2010 2:49:22 AM PDT by Brytani (Will someone PLEASE give Obama a Monica so we can impeach him?)
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To: Suvroc10

Wow, another feature just like here in Massachusetts under the Californian’s Romneycare.

( or is he just a carpetbagger from Utah, New Hampshire, Michigan....?)


9 posted on 03/20/2010 2:52:41 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Suvroc10

And remember, thru this you will not be going thru regular court but thru “tax courts” which apparently operate differently. Wonder if those that don’t buy insuancce that are able to will lose their right to vote, you know being a criminal and all.


10 posted on 03/20/2010 2:57:31 AM PDT by feedback doctor (Tyrants fear freedom loving people with guns. And well they should!)
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To: Artie

and it only cost $940 Billion to create 17,000 jobs. That’s what; $50 Million per job?


11 posted on 03/20/2010 3:01:29 AM PDT by Bernard (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, Three if by Government)
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To: Suvroc10

You will see I predict an “underground economy” emerging in which folks will be paid in cash.


12 posted on 03/20/2010 4:01:16 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: Bernard

You know, it astonishes me. One of the reasons Obama is pushing this is because he needs to find a way to pay back the horrible deficit. The reason we have the deficit is because the government stole our money and used it for purposes for which it was not intended. Now, they are going to fine us with this health care nonsense to pay back what they stole in the first place. Instead of them going to jail for their crimes, we will be fined and more money stolen. Given Congress’s past record, not only will we be fined for a non-functional new program, but this money will also be diverted to another cause, which will put us further into debt and will eventually cause our enslavement and overthrow. This is the the America I know. We seem to have disappeared.

I am amazed, but I don’t suppose that I should be.


13 posted on 03/20/2010 4:01:37 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: feedback doctor

I thought that with Obama being in office, criminals have been given the right to vote? Nothing would surprise me.


14 posted on 03/20/2010 4:02:54 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: Suvroc10

Our own government is waring against its own people. the servant is now the boss. Funny, you can’t ask an illegal his status if he is pulled over by police, he has rights you know, but our elected government can subject it’s citizens to harassment, threats, fines and imprisonment if they don’t comply with thier requests. Thier poking the tiger in the cage, the question is ....is it on purpose?


15 posted on 03/20/2010 4:05:05 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (cockblock the sock puppet in 2010)
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To: PIF
"Violence isn't only the answer, violence is the only answer."

J. Stack

16 posted on 03/20/2010 4:18:02 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: grobdriver

When the last man willing to die for his cause, is dead, the war is over — Spengler.


17 posted on 03/20/2010 4:22:20 AM PDT by PIF
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To: PIF
That's the way of war.

Fortunately Liberals are pussies to a man.

Their women may take a little effort...

18 posted on 03/20/2010 4:26:43 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: grobdriver

“Fortunately Liberals are pussies to a man.

Their women may take a little effort...”

Don’t be so overconfident - we were and we lost.


19 posted on 03/20/2010 4:30:08 AM PDT by PIF
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To: Suvroc10
OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!
PROOF THAT OBAMACARE/ROMNEYCARE IS A PROVEN FINANCIAL FAILURE

======================================================
======================================================

Mass. State Treasurer Timothy P. Cahill (I): RomneyCARE
is bankrupting Massachusetts and will do the same nationally.


"Romney admitted ... that about half of the real costs of "extending
coverage to the uninsured... is covered by federal tax dollars.



Mr. Romney's RomneyCARE is doing what entitlements do: crowding
out private insurers, compounding the cost explosion, walking the state toward rationing.


From CATO (the whole article is worthwhile): "Of the 133,000 people who have signed up for insurance since the plan was
implemented, slightly more than half have received totally free coverage."


"Health Care Speechwriter for Edwards, Obama & Clinton Now Without Health Insurance"
I'm a critic because what Washington is talking about doing
has made health insurance unaffordable in Massachusetts.



"Small businesses bridle at health insurance hikes (Romneycare strangles Mass. businesses)
some really bad news from Blue Cross-Blue Shield: His company's health insurance rates are going up 47 percent in January."


" Rationing medicine has already begun
… government-
run health care has introduced rationing and waiting lists and cost the lives of the people under its provisions."


"DEATH PANELS OPEN FOR BUSINESS IN MASSACHUSETTS"


"President Obama's newly confirmed regulatory czar defended the
possibility of removing organs from terminally ill patients without their permission."


"You can't reap these savings without limiting patients' choices in some way," said Paul Levy, CEO of Beth Israel Deaconess."


"State plan may place limits on patients' hospital options( Mass. RomneyCare )"


"Romney Visits Nebraska, Talks Health Care [where he defends Romneycare] "


"Paying the Health Tax in Massachusetts [Romneycare]
Unless we ponied up for a pricier policy we
neither need nor want-or enrolled in a government-sponsored insurance plan-we
would have to pay $1,000 each year to the state.
How did we become outlaws?"


The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood."
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006."


A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State's 'Grand Experiment' Fails [RomneyCare]


Health care in Massachusetts: a warning for America [Romney brings Mass. to its knees]
The Bay State's mandatory insurance law is raising costs, limiting access, and lowering care. "


"'Severe' doc shortage seen hiking wait time
"The shortage is getting more severe""


"Health costs to rise again.( RomneyCare )
The state's major health insurers plan to raise premiums by about 10 percent next year"


"Nation's ill-advised to follow Mass. plan [Health plan a failure]
September 17, 2009 The canary is dead."


"Bay State Insurance Premiums Highest in Country - Boston Globe August 22, 2009"


"Massachusetts: the laboratory for ObamaCare"


"Massachusetts' Obama-like reforms increase health costs, wait times [RomneyCare]
Premiums are growing 21 to 46 percent faster than the national average"


"Mass. Pushes Rationing to Control Universal Healthcare Costs (RomneyCare)"


"1,000 cancer patients 'refused treatment'"


"Massachusetts Universal Healthcare System Breaking Down Already"


"Hospital patients 'left in agony'"


"Mr. Romney should have known better before signing on to this not-so-grand experiment, especially since the state's "free market" reforms that he boasts about have proven to be irrelevant when not fictional.
Only 21,000 people have used the "connector" that was supposed to link individuals to private insurers."


A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State's 'Grand Experiment' Fails [RomneyCare]
Even though the Bay State commenced its program with a far smaller percentage of uninsured residents than exists nationwide,
"RomneyCare" is threatening to bankrupt the state."


"Dem Congresswoman Admits Obama Health Care Plan Will Destroy Private Health Insurance Industry"


"Romney's mistreatments a sick man,"


Where is RINO Romney
as the Dems push through ObamaCARE?

Answer: The RINO coward is hiding, sending out his saboteurs
against Gov. Palin and all conservative GOP stars again,
selling his ghostwritten book, helping Gore push the fraud of climate change,
and attacking the "tea party".
20 posted on 03/20/2010 4:35:10 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: PIF
we lost

I'm not talking about jacking jaws in front of TV cameras and stroking the NY Times, or following arbitrary rules made up on the fly by the other side...

The contest I'm talking about has yet to start.

21 posted on 03/20/2010 4:43:21 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: Suvroc10

Isn’t that outside of their charter?


22 posted on 03/20/2010 4:44:31 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I miss the competent fiscal policy and flag waving patriotism of the Carter Administration)
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To: grobdriver

Oh sorry, I was talking about the one where people were shot and died... but then what do I know?


23 posted on 03/20/2010 5:01:17 AM PDT by PIF
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To: Suvroc10
The IRS is already buying weapons, maybe in the bowels of the health care bill is a provision that will buy them black uniforms or at least black hats and leather trench coats like the Gestapo.
24 posted on 03/20/2010 5:36:58 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: The Great RJ

The IRS has had an armed department for many years. In fact, they were there at the Waco Raid.


25 posted on 03/20/2010 6:31:15 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Suvroc10

Except The Med in Memphis, it gets a big infusion of cash, only public hospital giving out FREE health care to illegals.

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KEEP THE CALLS UP! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE

Hold your own street protest in front of your reps local offices. Or busy street corners. Try and get the local media to cover it. Hammer the Medicare/SS issue, nothing like mad grannies and gramps.

This is from a 2007 contact list of congressional aides. Some might not be there any longer, but worth a try. The ones on the one post are senate aides, a few have bounced back, it’s worth the effort to clog up their email system along with the phones, and 1/3rd of these senators are up for re-election.

Mail must be inspected for anthrax takes 2 weeks, so if you snail mail send a post card

Contact congressional aides.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1857768/posts
U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121
U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121
White House comments: (202) 456-1111
Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep
Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
Toll free to the US Senate:
1-800-882-2005. (Spanish number)
1-800-417-7666. (English number)
Courtesy of a pro-amnesty group, no less!!

Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts. Be sure to call KNOWN RINOS too.THEY ARE ANSWERING THEIR LOCAL NUMBERS

Here is one of the ones Rush gave out on the radio that I’m calling. So far it’s been busy but I’m going to burn it up till I get to tell my congress critter to vote NO!
Join me?..... 1-877-762-8762

CODE RED Contact list http://www.nrcc.org/CodeRed/targets/
Remember they are all being offered BRIBES for their votes. Ask them how much their bribe price is.

The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Sunday March 21st.

Good idea from the bloggers at Hillbuzz:

http://hillbuzz.org/2010/03/17/action-items-march-17th-2010/
They offer specifics and links on how to put pressure on Dem DONORS, who have private numbers for legislators who may have taken their phones off the hook.

Congress may not want to hear from us, but they’ll listen to the money men.
Call them and fax them them instead of telling us you don’t trust them.

www.faxzero.com for two free faxes a day.
www.gotfreefax.com for another 2 free faxes per day.
Congressional Dems on Twitter
http://www.arrghpaine.com/congressional-dems-on-twitter

RUSH says to pressure these 2

Charles Wilson, Ohio Toll Free Number 888-706-1833 DC (202) 225-5705 fx: (202) 225-5907, Bridgeport, (740) 633-5705 fx: (740) 633-5727, Canfield, (330) 533-7250 fx: (330) 533-7136 Marietta, : (740) 376-0868 fx: (740) 376-0886 Ironton, (740) 533-9423 fx: (740) 533-9359 Wellsville, 330) 532-3740 Canfield, here is the zip code 44406.
Joe Cao DC (202) 225-6636 Fax: (202) 225-1988, NO (504) 483-2325 Fax: (504) 483-7944

NEW FLIPPERS

Rep. Bart Gordon TN (202) 225-4231 Fax: (202) 225-6887 Murfreesboro, TN 37130
(615) 896-1986 Cookeville (931) 528-5907 Gallatin, (615) 451-5174
Mark Schauer D.C. (202) 225-6276 Fax: (202) 225-6281 Jackson, MI (517) 780-9075
Fax: (517) 780-9081 Toll-Free: (877) 737-6407
Dennis Kucinish, Lakewood 216)228-8850, Fax (216)228-6465,
Parma. 440)845-2707, Fax (440)845-2743, DC (202)225-5871
Dennis Cardoza DC (202) 225-6131, Fax: 225-0819, 800-356-6424, Merced, (209) 383-4455 Fax: 726-1065 Modesto 209) 527-1914 Fax: 527-5748 Modesto, (209) 527-1914
Fax: 527-5748
Jim Costa Fresno 559-495-1620, Fax:559-495-1027, Bakersfeld, 661-869-1620 Fax: 661-869-1027 DC Phone:202-225-3341 Fax: 202-225-9308 Fax (202)225-5745

James Oberstar (202) 225-6211, Duluth (218) 727-7474, Chisholm (218) 254-5761, Brainerd (218) 828-4400, North Branch, (651) 277-1234
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
John Boccieri (D), Ohio Voted Yes on Stupak, NO on Health Care.Contact info - DC office (202) 225-3876 - Fax - (202) 225-3059 (330) 489-4414, Local Fax - (330) 489-4448
Betsy Markey DC 202.225.4676, fx. 202.225.5870, Ft. Collins, 970.221.7110fx 970.221.7240, Greeley, 970.351.6007 fx 970.351.6068, Lamar, 719.931.4003
fx 719.931.4005, Sterling, 970.522.0203 fx 970.522.1783
Alan Boyd FL DC 202) 225-5235, (202) 225-5615 Fax Tallahassee (850) 561-3979
(850) 681-2902 Fax Panama City (850) 785-0812 (850) 763-3764 Fax

S. Kosmos FL DC (202) 225-2706 Fax: (202) 226-6299, Port Orange, FL 32129
Phone: (386) 756-9798 Fax: (386) 756-9903 Orlando, FL 32826
Phone: (407)-208-1106 Fax: (407)-208-1108
Brad Ellsworth IN Evansville (812) 465-6484 fx: (812) 422-4761 Terre Haute (812) 232-0523 fx: (812) 232-0526 DC ph: (202) 225-4636 Toll Free: (866) 567-0227
fx: (202) 225-3284
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (RETIREING, His going away present to the USA.
Thinks you are harassing him! Rep. John Garamendi’s (CA-10) (202) 225-1880
Fax: (202) 225-5914 Walnut Creek, (925) 932-8899 fax: (925) 932-8159 Antioch (925) 757-7187 Fax: (925) 757-7056 Fairfield, Phone: (707) 438-1822 Fax: (707) 438-0523

MOVED TO UNDECIDED
rec’d from NCTeaParty.com — Despite earlier assurances that he was a NO on health care reform and would not change his mind, Rep. Heath Shuler, NC 11, is now undecided.
Rep. Heath Shuler, North Carolina 11th http://shuler.house.gov/ DC Office Number: (202) 225-6401, DC Fax Number: (202) 226-6422 Local Office Number: (828) 252-1651, Local Fax Number: (828) 252-8734 Chief of Staff: Hayden Rogers email: hayden.rogers@mail.house.gov
Lincoln Davis 202.225.6831Fax: 202.226.5172 Columbia Office 931.490.8675
Jamestown 931.879.2361 Fax: 931.879.2389 McMinnville, 931.473.7251 Fax: 931.473.7259
.............................................

Steve Cohen TN, DC (202) 225-3265 Fax: (202) 225-5663, Memphis, TN, 901) 544-4131 Fax: (901) 544-4329
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
James Matheson Toll-Free Number 1 (877) 677-9743 (202) 225-3011Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE

NEW NO’s

Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928, Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (NO)
Michael A. Arcuri (NY-24) NO
Harry Teague NM NO

And here are toll-free numbers we can use to call any Senators or Reps.

At the first number below you must wait through a tape recording urging you to tell your Rep or Senator to vote “yes” for the health care bill. Just hang on and when the recording is over, you will get the Capitol operator. Just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Then you will either talk to an aid or have the chance to leave a message for him/her to vote NO on the health care bill.

When you use the second number and the Capitol operator comes on, just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Every time I use this number I get the Rep or Senator’s answer machine, so it may be set up that way all the time...to go to their answer machine. Either way you can leave a message to vote NO on the health care bill!

We need to use these toll free numbers that have been set up for the health care/ BO supporters and illegals to use! After all they are FREE!

1-866-220-0044, 1-866-338-1015, 877-851-6437, 877-210-5351
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America flooding Congress with telephone calls
Saturday, March 20, 2010 9:12:13 AM · 20 of 20
GailA to Scanian

KEEP THE CALLS UP! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE

Hold your own street protest in front of your reps local offices. Or busy street corners. Try and get the local media to cover it. Hammer the Medicare/SS issue, nothing like mad grannies and gramps.

This is from a 2007 contact list of congressional aides. Some might not be there any longer, but worth a try. The ones on the one post are senate aides, a few have bounced back, it’s worth the effort to clog up their email system along with the phones, and 1/3rd of these senators are up for re-election.

Mail must be inspected for anthrax takes 2 weeks, so if you snail mail send a post card

Contact congressional aides.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1857768/posts
U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121
U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121
White House comments: (202) 456-1111
Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep
Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
Toll free to the US Senate:
1-800-882-2005. (Spanish number)
1-800-417-7666. (English number)
Courtesy of a pro-amnesty group, no less!!

Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts. Be sure to call KNOWN RINOS too.THEY ARE ANSWERING THEIR LOCAL NUMBERS

Here is one of the ones Rush gave out on the radio that I’m calling. So far it’s been busy but I’m going to burn it up till I get to tell my congress critter to vote NO!
Join me?..... 1-877-762-8762

CODE RED Contact list http://www.nrcc.org/CodeRed/targets/
Remember they are all being offered BRIBES for their votes. Ask them how much their bribe price is.

The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Sunday March 21st.

Good idea from the bloggers at Hillbuzz:

http://hillbuzz.org/2010/03/17/action-items-march-17th-2010/
They offer specifics and links on how to put pressure on Dem DONORS, who have private numbers for legislators who may have taken their phones off the hook.

Congress may not want to hear from us, but they’ll listen to the money men.
Call them and fax them them instead of telling us you don’t trust them.

www.faxzero.com for two free faxes a day.
www.gotfreefax.com for another 2 free faxes per day.
Congressional Dems on Twitter
http://www.arrghpaine.com/congressional-dems-on-twitter

RUSH says to pressure these 2

Charles Wilson, Ohio Toll Free Number 888-706-1833 DC (202) 225-5705 fx: (202) 225-5907, Bridgeport, (740) 633-5705 fx: (740) 633-5727, Canfield, (330) 533-7250 fx: (330) 533-7136 Marietta, : (740) 376-0868 fx: (740) 376-0886 Ironton, (740) 533-9423 fx: (740) 533-9359 Wellsville, 330) 532-3740 Canfield, here is the zip code 44406.
Joe Cao DC (202) 225-6636 Fax: (202) 225-1988, NO (504) 483-2325 Fax: (504) 483-7944

NEW FLIPPERS

Rep. Bart Gordon TN (202) 225-4231 Fax: (202) 225-6887 Murfreesboro, TN 37130
(615) 896-1986 Cookeville (931) 528-5907 Gallatin, (615) 451-5174
Mark Schauer D.C. (202) 225-6276 Fax: (202) 225-6281 Jackson, MI (517) 780-9075
Fax: (517) 780-9081 Toll-Free: (877) 737-6407
Dennis Kucinish, Lakewood 216)228-8850, Fax (216)228-6465,
Parma. 440)845-2707, Fax (440)845-2743, DC (202)225-5871
Dennis Cardoza DC (202) 225-6131, Fax: 225-0819, 800-356-6424, Merced, (209) 383-4455 Fax: 726-1065 Modesto 209) 527-1914 Fax: 527-5748 Modesto, (209) 527-1914
Fax: 527-5748
Jim Costa Fresno 559-495-1620, Fax:559-495-1027, Bakersfeld, 661-869-1620 Fax: 661-869-1027 DC Phone:202-225-3341 Fax: 202-225-9308 Fax (202)225-5745

James Oberstar (202) 225-6211, Duluth (218) 727-7474, Chisholm (218) 254-5761, Brainerd (218) 828-4400, North Branch, (651) 277-1234
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
John Boccieri (D), Ohio Voted Yes on Stupak, NO on Health Care.Contact info - DC office (202) 225-3876 - Fax - (202) 225-3059 (330) 489-4414, Local Fax - (330) 489-4448
Betsy Markey DC 202.225.4676, fx. 202.225.5870, Ft. Collins, 970.221.7110fx 970.221.7240, Greeley, 970.351.6007 fx 970.351.6068, Lamar, 719.931.4003
fx 719.931.4005, Sterling, 970.522.0203 fx 970.522.1783
Alan Boyd FL DC 202) 225-5235, (202) 225-5615 Fax Tallahassee (850) 561-3979
(850) 681-2902 Fax Panama City (850) 785-0812 (850) 763-3764 Fax

S. Kosmos FL DC (202) 225-2706 Fax: (202) 226-6299, Port Orange, FL 32129
Phone: (386) 756-9798 Fax: (386) 756-9903 Orlando, FL 32826
Phone: (407)-208-1106 Fax: (407)-208-1108
Brad Ellsworth IN Evansville (812) 465-6484 fx: (812) 422-4761 Terre Haute (812) 232-0523 fx: (812) 232-0526 DC ph: (202) 225-4636 Toll Free: (866) 567-0227
fx: (202) 225-3284
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (RETIREING, His going away present to the USA.
Thinks you are harassing him! Rep. John Garamendi’s (CA-10) (202) 225-1880
Fax: (202) 225-5914 Walnut Creek, (925) 932-8899 fax: (925) 932-8159 Antioch (925) 757-7187 Fax: (925) 757-7056 Fairfield, Phone: (707) 438-1822 Fax: (707) 438-0523

MOVED TO UNDECIDED
rec’d from NCTeaParty.com — Despite earlier assurances that he was a NO on health care reform and would not change his mind, Rep. Heath Shuler, NC 11, is now undecided.
Rep. Heath Shuler, North Carolina 11th http://shuler.house.gov/ DC Office Number: (202) 225-6401, DC Fax Number: (202) 226-6422 Local Office Number: (828) 252-1651, Local Fax Number: (828) 252-8734 Chief of Staff: Hayden Rogers email: hayden.rogers@mail.house.gov
Lincoln Davis 202.225.6831Fax: 202.226.5172 Columbia Office 931.490.8675
Jamestown 931.879.2361 Fax: 931.879.2389 McMinnville, 931.473.7251 Fax: 931.473.7259
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Steve Cohen TN, DC (202) 225-3265 Fax: (202) 225-5663, Memphis, TN, 901) 544-4131 Fax: (901) 544-4329
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
James Matheson Toll-Free Number 1 (877) 677-9743 (202) 225-3011Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE

NEW NO’s

Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928, Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (NO)
Michael A. Arcuri (NY-24) NO
Harry Teague NM NO

And here are toll-free numbers we can use to call any Senators or Reps.

At the first number below you must wait through a tape recording urging you to tell your Rep or Senator to vote “yes” for the health care bill. Just hang on and when the recording is over, you will get the Capitol operator. Just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Then you will either talk to an aid or have the chance to leave a message for him/her to vote NO on the health care bill.

When you use the second number and the Capitol operator comes on, just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Every time I use this number I get the Rep or Senator’s answer machine, so it may be set up that way all the time...to go to their answer machine. Either way you can leave a message to vote NO on the health care bill!

We need to use these toll free numbers that have been set up for the health care/ BO supporters and illegals to use! After all they are FREE!

1-866-220-0044, 1-866-338-1015, 877-851-6437, 877-210-5351


26 posted on 03/20/2010 7:19:57 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: hoosiermama; maggief; STARWISE; GOPJ; Borax Queen; Condor51; onyx; Tennessee Nana; AuntB; ...
.........Obama and his crew are obsessed w/ rewarding illegals who broke our laws........while punishing and insulting us "evil" Americans. Witness the spectacle of AG Holder kissing up to terrorists, and hiring their lawyers for top DOJ jobs.

Vladimir Lenin: "Medicine is the keystone of the arch of the socialist state."

John Boehner: ObamaCare includes hiring 16,000 new IRS officers at a cost of $10 Billion to track our bank accounts, and for the first time the feds would have acceess to confidential info.

ANOTHER FIRST: the Medicare payroll tax would be applied to investment income, beginning in 2013. A new 3.8 percent tax would be imposed on interest, dividends, capital gains and other investment income for individuals making more than $200,000 a year and couples making more than $250,000. Would also increase the Medicare payroll tax by 0.9% to 2.35% on wages above $200,000 for individuals and $250,000 for married couples filing jointly.

E-v-e-r-y-thing we Americans do is related to health or can be manipulated into dictating socialism to us. Once Ohaha and his crew get control of medical care, all the defining, controlling features of socialist govt will be introduced, one by one.

27 posted on 03/20/2010 7:38:15 AM PDT by Liz (A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat nearby.)
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To: Suvroc10
What is being reported here that we did not already know? UnConstitutional is simply that: unConstitutional.
28 posted on 03/20/2010 9:23:39 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Liz

Absolutely horrific. What’s going to happen, these are beyond scary times.


29 posted on 03/20/2010 9:55:01 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Liz
*** John Boehner: ObamaCare includes hiring 16,000 new IRS officers at a cost of $10 Billion to track our bank accounts, and for the first time the feds would have acceess to confidential info. ***

He forget about the Sixty, Remington Model 870 Police shotguns the IRS is buying.

However, it'll take more than 16,000 additional geeky accountants, and 60 Combat Shotguns, to subdue 100,000,000 really pi$$ed off Americans who are armed to the teeth. A good proportion of whom, have the same shotgun -- or better firepower.

But what is more interesting is why:

"the US Department of Education (DOE) filed a request for 27 Remington 870 short-barreled shotguns earlier this month in order to bulk up its stockpile of arms."[Bing - DOE]

Now why-oh-why would the Dept of Education need 27 Combat Shotguns, and WHY do they even have a "stockpile of arms" in the first place??? Are all our old Algebra Teachers going to hunt us down to check if we remember a2 + b2 = c2, and if not they'll blow our heads off?

'Series', what's up with the DOE having a 'stockpile of arms'? That makes no sense at all. They aren't Law Enforcement and have no Police Powers. 'Someone' in Congress should be looking into this.

30 posted on 03/20/2010 11:04:41 AM PDT by Condor51 (A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new. [A. Einstein])
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To: Condor51; Borax Queen; stephenjohnbanker; maggief; hoosiermama; Grampa Dave; GOPJ; sickoflibs; ...
.......... the IRS is buying Sixty, Remington Model 870 Police shotguns .....the US Department of Education filed a request for 27 Remington 870 short-barreled shotguns earlier this month in order to bulk up its stockpile of arms." Now why-oh-why would the Dept of Education need 27 Combat Shotguns; DOE having a 'stockpile of arms' makes no sense at all. They aren't Law Enforcement and have no Police Powers.............

Socialism, Fascism, Communism.........no real difference, except whether one goes willingly or at gunpoint.

KEEP IN MIND Candidate Obama campaigned on installing a “Civilian Security Force” on US soil. We can safely assume that means the Security Force has guns.......and makes sure the citizenry does not.

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REFERENCE Obama is implementing "The Plan"
Excerpted from COS Rahm Emanuel's book "The Plan, Big Ideas for America")
FR Posted August 17, 2009 by HollyB

Rahm Emanuel's main points-----which Obama is now trying to ram down our throats.

1. Page 160 New Domestic Defense Division
Rahm: “It should include top security talent from the CIA, the FBI, and the ranks of state and local law enforcement.

Obama: The new task force: The Team would be drawn from those with relevant experience probably from agencies such as the FBI, CIA, and the Pentagon…” http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124787391051060705.html

2. Page 58 Citizen service:
Rahm: “Every citizen needs to understand and accept the essence of the American bargain: Each of us has to do his or her part. While the rights of citizenship are explicit in our constitution, the implicit responsibilities are every bit as crucial. All Americans between ages of 18-25 will be asked to serve their country by going through 3 months of basic training, civil defense preparation, and community service”.
http://change.gov/americaserves/

“Obama and Biden will call on citizens of all ages to serve”.
HR 1388 Serve America Act
For more information on HR1388 http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1388

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Rahm's Citizen Service “The nation will enlist them for 3 months of civilian service. They’ll be asked to report for basic civil defense training in their state or community.”

Obama:” We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded”. http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/obamas_civilian_national_secur.html

“Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year”. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80829

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Rahm Emanuel surely got his top White House job as Obama’s COS, based on his training on how to organize a “Civilian Security Force” when Rahm voluntered for the Israeli military. Rham trained as a volunteer for “Sar’el”—— the three-week Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) training program to train civilians. (like US boot camp) where civilians are trained to assist the Israeli military (military are people who use guns).

Rahm lived on an IDF military base---with people who had guns---to get the proper training. A civilian volunteer, Rahm assisted the IDF during the 1991 Gulf War in one of Israel’s northern military bases. Rahm was following in the footsteps of his Dad. His father was an Israeli who was part of the underground resistance movement under the British Mandate............and they didn't resist using popsicle sticks.

31 posted on 03/20/2010 12:22:37 PM PDT by Liz (A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat nearby.)
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To: Liz

The IRS in charge of HC taxation will not carry weapons/ And Obama’s EPA will be allowed to carry also. But our pilots on flights not allowed to carry in case o fa terrorist plot.


32 posted on 03/20/2010 12:32:54 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: Condor51

Any chance these are for campus security?


33 posted on 03/20/2010 12:36:31 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: OafOfOffice
*** Any chance these are for campus security? ***

I doubt it.
I don't think any Campus Security Dept has 'Combat Weapons'. If they're armed at all, besides a Billy-Club, oops 'Baton', it's a sidearm.

Plus, to me, the scary part of the DOE links from Bing is that word 'Stockpile'. Are they expecting massive revolts from English Lit majors?

34 posted on 03/20/2010 1:03:05 PM PDT by Condor51 (A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new. [A. Einstein])
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To: Condor51

Why can’t we get answers on these actions? This all sounds so evil.


35 posted on 03/20/2010 3:17:40 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: Condor51; Liz

Thoughts please?

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/03/15/1815246/federal-education-department-has.html


36 posted on 03/20/2010 3:22:52 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: Liz

nnoooonnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

In my opinion, we should not have dual citizens/questionable dual citizens in the higher offices, I don’t care which country they or their parents are from (Mexico, Israel, Turkey, Russia, wherever). They come over with cockamanie ideas on how to force our country into even more slavery and/or totalitarian ways. We never seem to get dual/questionable dual citizen patriots who believe in U.S. sovereignty and will do anything towards maintaining and protecting that.

Chertoff was another one, among many, and now he’s off hawking his perverted CT-Scans to use on US citizens instead of profiling people at the airport.


37 posted on 03/20/2010 3:35:42 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Suvroc10

bump


38 posted on 03/20/2010 3:51:39 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Borax Queen; Condor51
......we should not have dual citizens/questionable dual citizens in higher offices I don’t care which country they or their parents are from (Mexico, Israel, Turkey, Russia, wherever)......... They come over with cockamanie ideas on how to force our country into even more slavery and/or totalitarian ways. We never seem to get dual/questionable dual citizen patriots who believe in US sovereignty; the duals do nothing towards maintaining and protecting that........... Chertoff was another one, among many, and now he’s hawking his perverted CT-Scans to use on US citizens instead of profiling people at the airport.

B-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l. You nailed it but good. Deserves a repeat.

All dual should be tagged as a threat to US national security.....especially if they work in the WH.

CASE IN POINT Rahm Emanuel is a dual citizen; it is not clear whether the Constitution permits a dual to serve in a high level US govt job, and make policy decisions for American citizens. Not to mention his top security clearance........which permits him to sit in the WH Situation Room next to the Fraud-in-chief during TOP NATIONAL SECURITY MEETINGS.

39 posted on 03/20/2010 3:58:29 PM PDT by Liz (A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat nearby.)
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To: Liz; Condor51

Awww, thank you, Liz.

That is sickening and disturbing about the ballerina. AND then there is his sick, demented, Bolshevik-glasses-wearing, doctor-brother, straight out of some scary horror movie and who also seems to have undue influence.


40 posted on 03/20/2010 4:09:46 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Condor51

“Are all our old Algebra Teachers going to hunt us down to check if we remember a2 + b2 = c2, and if not they’ll blow our heads off?”

No, its sin
-— = tan that really pisses em off !!
cos


41 posted on 03/20/2010 4:17:27 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Man, did I butcher that ;-)


42 posted on 03/20/2010 4:18:14 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: Borax Queen; Condor51

THIS JUST IN: Katie Couric will interview Rahm Emanuel Sunday night on 60 Minutes.

His Dr brother who is advising on O/Care .....and Rahm’s Hollywood bigwig brother........ are also on hand.


43 posted on 03/20/2010 7:34:12 PM PDT by Liz (A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat nearby.)
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To: Liz; Condor51

Oh, you’re kidding, there’s a third one.... great... Gee, Hollywood’s full of Communists, how perfect.


44 posted on 03/20/2010 8:22:07 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen; Condor51
THE WONDER BOYS--AMERICA HAS BEVER SEEN SUCH PERFECTION

Brother Rahm is "totally perfect." BALLETOMANE, CHICAGO OPERATOR, CLINTON ADVISOR, OVERNIGHT WALL STREET MULTI-MILLIONAIRE, CONGRESSMAN, WH COS.....AND RAHM WAS NOT EVEN VOTED "MOST LIKELY TO SUCCEED."

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EXIT LIFTS EMANUEL OF HOLLYWOOD (Ari tops the Hollyweird heap)
By PETER LAURIA, NY POST

EXCERPT Less than a month after a merger, Jim Wiatt, CEO of Tinseltown talent agency William Morris, will resign. Sources noted that the question was not whether but when Endeavor boss Ari Emanuel would officially grab power......Sources said Wiatt, after consulting with his inner circle, decided to make the move voluntarily rather than go through a bloody coup. "Ari took over an unbelievable brand for nothing and crushed the internal competition in days."

Ari Emanuel, whose brother is White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, is kindly called aggressive and temperamental by sources -- he's the inspiration for Jeremy Piven's wildly popular "Entourage" character Ari Gold. Despite their history -- Wiatt fired Emanuel when they worked together at talent agency International Creative Management.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05262009/business/wiatt_exit_lifts_emanuel_of_hollywood_170977.htm

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THE OTHER BROTHER, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel was tapped as White House health care policy advisor (thank God perfect Rahm will help perfect Ezekiel handle O/Care-Medicare/Aid trillions--snix)
Chicago Sun Times | Feb. 14th | Lynn Sweet
FR Posted on 02/15/2009 by william1970

Rahm's brother, Dr. Emanuel, has received numerous awards....election to the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the National Academy of Science and the Association of American Physicians. Hippocrates Magazine selected him as Doctor of the Year in Ethics.....the AMA-Burroughs Welcome Leadership Award, the Public Service Award from the American Society of Clinical Oncology, the John Mendelsohn Award from the MD Anderson Cancer Center, and a Fulbright Scholarship (which he declined). Dr. Emanuel served on President Clinton’s Health Care Task Force, the National Bioethics Advisory Commission (NBAC), and on the bioethics panel of the Pan-American Healthcare Organization. Dr. Emanuel has been a visiting professor at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine, UCLA, the Brin Professor at Johns Hopkins Medical School, and the Kovitz Professor at Stanford Medical School.

It's no wonder De Zeke is "overseeing" trillions in healthcare tax dollars.


On the plus side, Dr Zeke was spit-shining his penny
loafers when the subject of O/Care "death panels" surfaced.

45 posted on 03/21/2010 2:09:50 AM PDT by Liz (A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat nearby.)
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To: Liz

Thanks for the information, Liz. Sounds like the deviants snaked their way into the most important and influential places, and unfortunately, in our society, that includes Hollywood...

I can’t see that evil pro-eugenics doctor-brother without being reminded of the Bolshevik Revolution, he has to be reincarnated from one of them.


46 posted on 03/21/2010 8:23:57 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen

Now that you mention it-—Dr Zeke looks a lot like the Tom Courtenay character in the Dr Zhivago movie.


47 posted on 03/21/2010 8:48:44 AM PDT by Liz (A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat nearby.)
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To: Liz

You know, seriously, I wanted to mention that character this morning!!! I love that movie, one of the few “allowed” to reveal what went on over there, and it reminds me of my own family’s escape (although theirs was during WWII), but that character is BEYOND frightening. And it seems like a lot of today’s leftists (purposely?) wear those same glasses...


48 posted on 03/21/2010 9:20:52 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen

49 posted on 03/21/2010 10:58:23 AM PDT by Liz (A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat nearby.)
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To: Liz

omg, Liz, you crack me up, I’m choking on my drink —— that is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo scary! Twins separated at birth and by 100 years or so!!!!


50 posted on 03/21/2010 11:09:34 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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