Skip to comments.BORN IN THE USA? Attorney links eligibility, health care challenges
Posted on 03/26/2010 7:07:25 AM PDT by Elderberry
What President Obama has described as a monumental victory the passage of health-care reform legislation could be linked in court to the ongoing controversy over his eligibility to hold the nation's highest office. Attorney Orly Taitz now a candidate for secretary of state in California today provided to WND a court filing in which she asks that her eligibility challenge be joined with a case that contests the constitutionality of the Democrats' massive health-care plan. Taitz argues, "H.R. 3590 was signed into law by Mr. Barack Hussein Obama, who
never proved his legitimacy to the presidency. Therefore the act is invalid, as it was not signed by one legally entitled to sign it." Her e-mail documentation indicated she filed with the Judicial Panel on Multidistrict Litigation under federal court rules. She's asking to link her case and the case brought by a long list of state attorneys general against the health-care law, Florida et al vs. United States Department of Health and Human Services. Taitz is suing Obama "in regards to damages suffered by her" as part of an amended complaint filed in federal court in Washington.
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This attempt to prove Zero is constitutionally eligible is going nowhere. Just goes to show you how important constitution is now days.
AGs probably will not want anything to do with her considering her past attempts
NO! NO! NO!
This worries me tremendously!!!!!!!!
We need to focus on healthcare! This isn’t about getting Obama thrown out of office! That battle was a nonstarter! If we pollute the case we have with healthcare with other issues and show up in court with tinfoil hats, we’ll be stuck with socialized medicine forever!!!!
Obama legitimacy or lack thereof is not an argument against Obamacare. We need to focus on the Constitutional challenges to the healthcare bill, not the man who signed it!!!!
After all. If they were joined then the only outcome would be that all the Ags DO NOT HAVE STANDING!!!
(Pardon my shouting)
I think there should be more people asking why is the Constitution being ignored and more importantly if we are even acknowledging its purpose anymore.
Like in the Pirates of the Caribbean there was the pirates code, which is really just a “guideline”.
Is this what the Constitution is nowadays? For religious purposes there is the Holy Book or bible, for our country our forefathers worked for years to have our Constitution.
I hope Orly gets new traction with this.
Good, keep going Orly. This crazy broad just might defeat this health care bill. If only the Repubs in DC had a spine like her....
I think there will be a time to prove Obama not a NBC and all the other things. The time is not now. But there will be a time and it will be embarrassing for a lot of people. We need to plug the hole in the boat and bail now. We can calm the storm later.
She is correct but she is far too emotional. We have to win back the House and DEFUND this in Jan 2011. I am hopeing the lawsuits kill it first but Boehner said he will DEFUND it. If we can kill it sooner then great.
Obama just loves her....
Nobody can destroy a valid and undeniable fact like she can.
Bailing won’t keep up if we’re still engine’s out and stern to the waves.
OK not the best analogy but you get the drift. Lets sort the priorties. Kill the bill, win the congress back, Screw with Obama. Take the Senate in 4 years. Bring prosperity back to the US
And never let our Guard down. Again.
And we need to focus on the garbage that is being indoctrinated into our children in the school system.
Dr. Orly has put her lifes blood into this fight. SHE HAS MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP FROM COWARDLY REPUBLICANS AND THE SCOTUS.
Even if Orly NEVER brings Obama to trial, she has almost single handly brought his ineligibility to world wide attention, caused him to spend MILLIONS on lawyers to keep his records hidden AND CAUSED THE MUZZIE TO SWEAT BULLETS!!!
I agree. Well I did my part. My youngest is a Hellsdale grad and teaches social studies. I have a friend who is a PHD econ prof at a big 10 U. It is like a salmon swimming up stream for him. I understand.
Dr Orly Taitz Esquire is the unafraid Patriot, not even born in the USofA, who values her Citizenship more highly than most Native/Natural Born Citizens. She’s willing to take all kinds of heat . . . and it’s been vicious . . . to push her lawsuit.
She has PROOF that Mr Obama used many Social Security Numbers including the 999- number given to Foreign Students attending College in the USofA, up to the one he currently uses which was originally provided by the SSA to a Connecticut man who was born in 1890. She has the proof, the documentation. Yet nearly EVERY Judge who looks at her lawsuit is not a Pro-Founding-Fathers-Constitution defending Judge. Either they are afraid of the repercussions or they want to create law from the bench or maybe they just don’t care because it doesn’t affect them personally.
SUPPORT ORLY TAITZ. She’s not a kook, she’s a determined Patriot.
Hold your negative opinions about Dr Taitz to yourself. Do not give the Liberals talking points to use against her and ultimately against all of us.
Orly’s “asking to link her case and the case brought by a long list of state attorneys general against the health-care law, Florida et al vs. United States Department of Health and Human Services.”
She would not help this situation, she comes with a stigma the press will exploit. Any of the states, that bring up the issue would probably have standing and reasonable cause to pursue this.
Anyone who opposes the Dems gets stigmatized immediately. This is Alinsky smearing - McCain is using it against conservatives too.
I do think if we win Congress or sooner that eligibility has to become an issue. He is destroying America.
Fortunately, it hasn’t even been funded. Can’t wait to see how this works out in appropriations. Might become another No Child Left Behind. Still a working idea, just not funded.
Also, for fun, another poster wrote an excellent essay on this.
It is lengthy and takes about 10 minutes to read If you care to read it:
This worries me tremendously!!!!!!!!
We need to focus on healthcare! This isnt about getting Obama thrown out of office! That battle was a nonstarter! If we pollute the case we have with healthcare with other issues and show up in court with tinfoil hats, well be stuck with socialized medicine forever!!!!
Obama legitimacy or lack thereof is not an argument against Obamacare. We need to focus on the Constitutional challenges to the healthcare bill, not the man who signed it!!!! STUPID!!!!
How can that legislation be signed into law by a USURPER?
Or, are you suggesting that anyone born the subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England (or any other foreign country) is and should be considered a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S. and thus eligible to command our armed forces?
I’m saying that the cases that are trying to remove Obama have no traction and they have very little possibility of succeeding. Let’s focus on the task at hand. I agree with you in principle, but focusing on something that makes us all look like a bunch of loonies isn’t going to help us get this thing overturned!!!
What other parts of the Constitution are you willing to "let slide", other than Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 simply because there is no "traction" to defend it?
When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdoms dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.s children.http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html
It can't. Of course not. Yet, right there, on his campaign web site F.T.S., it's stated that a foreign government "governed" Barry from birth and the reason it did, was that Barry inherited that foreign citizenship by way of his foreign national father (no matter where he was born). Assuming, of course, that Sr. was his legal father at birth.
How, then, could he possibly be a "Natural Born Citizen" of the U.S.?
Barry Soetoro, the divided citizen at birth!
Furthermore: Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate based on the word of 1 relative.
I’m not willing to let any of the Constitution slide. But when you don’t have a case......
You have to pick your battles. I don’t think we should be trying to tie the Constitutionality of the New Deal and Medicare into this case either. Let’s get our freedoms won back and launch a seperate battle to see the birth certificate.
Seriously bad strategy to muddy the waters combining with a lawsuit that keeps getting dismissed.
If Obama has spent more than $5,000 on this issue, I will be stunned.
Your missing the point. This isn’t about the birth certificate.
Right now, there is an (alleged) POTUS, commading our military and signing “legislation” into law & signing treaties with other country’s who was BORN the subject of a FOREIGN gov’t. Even HE admits this.
Health care is a massive monstrosity. However, having an unconstitutional POTUS is even bigger than that, or any other single piece of legislation. Would you be OK with an illegal alien being “pushed” into the office of the Presidency? Of course not. Why not? Simple. Not Constitutionally qualified. Guess what. Neither is Barry.
There is no doubt that in the beginning, NOBODY in a position of power to “do” anything about this was going to stick their neck out on the line to “bring down” the first black president (who really is more white and arabic than black), no matter what he did.
Things are changing now that his popularity is in the toilet.
This “battle” is indeed a most difficult one. But so is getting rid of Barrycare. Just watch.
The country has fallen far from the intent of the Constitution in many areas. Because it will be difficult to get back to were we should be doesn’t mean it’s a battle not worth fighting.
If the office of the Presidency can be successfully usurped, and the precedent set, it’s likely to happen again.
Want to stop ALL of his madness, including Barrycare, go strait to the root and expose him as the usurper he is.
Remember, it took over 2 years for Watergate to eventually bring Nixon down.
I choose to fight for ALL of the Constitution.
Well, I hope that others have more sense than you do. Your strategy for trying to go for it all will lose the battle and the war.
The courts are not listening challenges to Obama’s legitimacy. Fact. Trying to attach that issue to the healthcare issue won’t help. The argument that healthcare is unconstitutional because Obama’s illegitimate will just get thrown out of court like all the other challenges to his legitimacy.
You may choose to interpret my argument as meaning that you care more about the Constitution than I do. That reasoning is stupid, in my opinion. I hardly think it betrays great love for the Constitution to follow a strategy that may appeal to principle but will ultimately fail, result in the permanent establishment of socialized medicine, and irrepairably harm the very thing you’re trying to protect.
Go Orly go!
Then by all means, ignore the presidency being usurped. I mean, why not let the precedent be set. It’s an uphill, really tough battle you know. After-all, who cares about A2,S1,C5 anyway. Long live the Queen. Er, ah...I mean King. /s
Wow. You’re really trying very hard to misunderstand me, aren’t you?
I didn’t say ignore the legitimacy issue. I’m saying that since it has a poor probability at best of succeeding in any court of law, don’t sink the court battle against healthcare by bringing the legitimacy argument into it. It’d be really stupid to try to win the healthcare argument by basing it on an assertion that no judge appears to be accepting for a second.
By all means, try to get Obama thrown out on the birth certificate thing. Try for the next 3 years. It’s possible, but we probably won’t be able to do it. In the meantime, let’s try to win the healthcare battle by not making stupid mistakes.
Because all her other cases have gone so well...</sarcasm>
Betcha the crazy broad doesn't.
Even if the eligibility issue isn't attached to the current h.c. lawsuit(s), THOSE lawsuits will undoubtedly be an uphill battle as well. I hope that IF they fail initially, you don't give up hope on those as well.
Perhaps this is Obama’s way to make opposition to health care taboo?
I will sit here and give you guys telepathic support.
parsy, who is twiddling his thumbs
Bet you Orly sues all of them if they don't.
She can't sue them if it was never submitted to them. She filed the motion in the wrong place, she served the wrong people, and she used the wrong format, and that's just for starters. But it's not as if the address of the Panel, and instructions for submissions, are easy to find.
Oh wait, never mind:
They are until they don't agree with Orly's unique reading of the Constitution - then they become part of the conspiracy.
In short, the de facto officer doctrine.
Then it is time to whack yourself.
NO, just NO!
Jarrett said the king was ready to rule, and he sure is trying. The problem is, he’s a petulant man child. He will fail. OTP.
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