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BORN IN THE USA? Attorney links eligibility, health care challenges
WorldNetDaily ^ | March 25,2010 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 03/26/2010 7:07:25 AM PDT by Elderberry

What President Obama has described as a monumental victory – the passage of health-care reform legislation – could be linked in court to the ongoing controversy over his eligibility to hold the nation's highest office. Attorney Orly Taitz – now a candidate for secretary of state in California – today provided to WND a court filing in which she asks that her eligibility challenge be joined with a case that contests the constitutionality of the Democrats' massive health-care plan. Taitz argues, "H.R. 3590 was signed into law by Mr. Barack Hussein Obama, who … never proved his legitimacy to the presidency. Therefore the act is invalid, as it was not signed by one legally entitled to sign it." Her e-mail documentation indicated she filed with the Judicial Panel on Multidistrict Litigation under federal court rules. She's asking to link her case and the case brought by a long list of state attorneys general against the health-care law, Florida et al vs. United States Department of Health and Human Services. Taitz is suing Obama "in regards to damages suffered by her" as part of an amended complaint filed in federal court in Washington.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; britishsubject; certifigate; eligibility; naturalborncitizem; naturalborncitizen; obamaisabirther; whackamole
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Orly is trying to Join the AGs case in Florida to her QW case.
1 posted on 03/26/2010 7:07:25 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

This attempt to prove Zero is constitutionally eligible is going nowhere. Just goes to show you how important constitution is now days.


2 posted on 03/26/2010 7:11:38 AM PDT by mel
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To: Elderberry

AGs probably will not want anything to do with her considering her past attempts


3 posted on 03/26/2010 7:12:12 AM PDT by mel
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To: Elderberry

NO! NO! NO!

This worries me tremendously!!!!!!!!

We need to focus on healthcare! This isn’t about getting Obama thrown out of office! That battle was a nonstarter! If we pollute the case we have with healthcare with other issues and show up in court with tinfoil hats, we’ll be stuck with socialized medicine forever!!!!

Obama legitimacy or lack thereof is not an argument against Obamacare. We need to focus on the Constitutional challenges to the healthcare bill, not the man who signed it!!!!
STUPID!!!!


4 posted on 03/26/2010 7:12:57 AM PDT by Shadowfax
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To: mel

agree


5 posted on 03/26/2010 7:17:58 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Shadowfax

You’re right.

After all. If they were joined then the only outcome would be that all the Ags DO NOT HAVE STANDING!!!

(Pardon my shouting)


6 posted on 03/26/2010 7:23:52 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

I think there should be more people asking why is the Constitution being ignored and more importantly if we are even acknowledging its purpose anymore.

Like in the Pirates of the Caribbean there was the pirates code, which is really just a “guideline”.

Is this what the Constitution is nowadays? For religious purposes there is the Holy Book or bible, for our country our forefathers worked for years to have our Constitution.

I hope Orly gets new traction with this.


7 posted on 03/26/2010 7:24:43 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: Eye of Unk
The kind of traction Orly gets.
8 posted on 03/26/2010 7:28:33 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Elderberry

Good, keep going Orly. This crazy broad just might defeat this health care bill. If only the Repubs in DC had a spine like her....


9 posted on 03/26/2010 7:34:56 AM PDT by Commander X (TOTUS...destroying the USA one lie at a time.)
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To: LucyT; rxsid; BP2

ping


10 posted on 03/26/2010 7:34:56 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off.)
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To: Elderberry

I think there will be a time to prove Obama not a NBC and all the other things. The time is not now. But there will be a time and it will be embarrassing for a lot of people. We need to plug the hole in the boat and bail now. We can calm the storm later.


11 posted on 03/26/2010 7:36:04 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Elderberry

She is correct but she is far too emotional. We have to win back the House and DEFUND this in Jan 2011. I am hopeing the lawsuits kill it first but Boehner said he will DEFUND it. If we can kill it sooner then great.


12 posted on 03/26/2010 7:39:12 AM PDT by Frantzie (McCain = Obama's friend McCain called AMERICANS against amnesty - "racists")
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To: Elderberry

Obama just loves her....

Nobody can destroy a valid and undeniable fact like she can.


13 posted on 03/26/2010 7:40:01 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: 70th Division

Bailing won’t keep up if we’re still engine’s out and stern to the waves.


14 posted on 03/26/2010 7:42:26 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

OK not the best analogy but you get the drift. Lets sort the priorties. Kill the bill, win the congress back, Screw with Obama. Take the Senate in 4 years. Bring prosperity back to the US


15 posted on 03/26/2010 7:46:10 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: 70th Division

And never let our Guard down. Again.
And we need to focus on the garbage that is being indoctrinated into our children in the school system.


16 posted on 03/26/2010 7:54:08 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: All
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Dr. Orly has put her life’s blood into this fight. SHE HAS MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP FROM COWARDLY REPUBLICANS AND THE SCOTUS.

Even if Orly NEVER brings Obama to trial, she has almost single handly brought his ineligibility to world wide attention, caused him to spend MILLIONS on lawyers to keep his records hidden AND CAUSED THE MUZZIE TO SWEAT BULLETS!!!

.

17 posted on 03/26/2010 8:02:51 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Elderberry

I agree. Well I did my part. My youngest is a Hellsdale grad and teaches social studies. I have a friend who is a PHD econ prof at a big 10 U. It is like a salmon swimming up stream for him. I understand.


18 posted on 03/26/2010 8:03:04 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Elderberry

Dr Orly Taitz Esquire is the unafraid Patriot, not even born in the USofA, who values her Citizenship more highly than most Native/Natural Born Citizens. She’s willing to take all kinds of heat . . . and it’s been vicious . . . to push her lawsuit.

She has PROOF that Mr Obama used many Social Security Numbers including the 999- number given to Foreign Students attending College in the USofA, up to the one he currently uses which was originally provided by the SSA to a Connecticut man who was born in 1890. She has the proof, the documentation. Yet nearly EVERY Judge who looks at her lawsuit is not a Pro-Founding-Fathers-Constitution defending Judge. Either they are afraid of the repercussions or they want to create law from the bench or maybe they just don’t care because it doesn’t affect them personally.

SUPPORT ORLY TAITZ. She’s not a kook, she’s a determined Patriot.

Hold your negative opinions about Dr Taitz to yourself. Do not give the Liberals talking points to use against her and ultimately against all of us.

Thank you.


19 posted on 03/26/2010 8:23:36 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (SPEAK UP REPUBLICANS, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU YET! IMPEACH OBAMA!)
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To: LucyT

Ping.

Orly’s “asking to link her case and the case brought by a long list of state attorneys general against the health-care law, Florida et al vs. United States Department of Health and Human Services.”


20 posted on 03/26/2010 8:30:31 AM PDT by azishot (J.D. Hayworth...U.S. Senator FOR Arizona...http://www.jdforsenate.com/)
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To: Frantzie
She is correct but she is far too emotional

She would not help this situation, she comes with a stigma the press will exploit. Any of the states, that bring up the issue would probably have standing and reasonable cause to pursue this.

21 posted on 03/26/2010 8:36:43 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Anyone who opposes the Dems gets stigmatized immediately. This is Alinsky smearing - McCain is using it against conservatives too.

I do think if we win Congress or sooner that eligibility has to become an issue. He is destroying America.


22 posted on 03/26/2010 8:44:28 AM PDT by Frantzie (McCain = Obama's friend McCain called AMERICANS against amnesty - "racists")
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To: Frantzie

Fortunately, it hasn’t even been funded. Can’t wait to see how this works out in appropriations. Might become another No Child Left Behind. Still a working idea, just not funded.

Also, for fun, another poster wrote an excellent essay on this.

It is lengthy and takes about 10 minutes to read If you care to read it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2476713/posts?page=145#145


23 posted on 03/26/2010 9:23:38 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Shadowfax; Elderberry
"NO! NO! NO!

This worries me tremendously!!!!!!!!

We need to focus on healthcare! This isn’t about getting Obama thrown out of office! That battle was a nonstarter! If we pollute the case we have with healthcare with other issues and show up in court with tinfoil hats, we’ll be stuck with socialized medicine forever!!!!

Obama legitimacy or lack thereof is not an argument against Obamacare. We need to focus on the Constitutional challenges to the healthcare bill, not the man who signed it!!!! STUPID!!!!

How can that legislation be signed into law by a USURPER?

Or, are you suggesting that anyone born the subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England (or any other foreign country) is and should be considered a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S. and thus eligible to command our armed forces?

24 posted on 03/26/2010 9:57:05 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Elderberry; All
Dr. Taitz's court filling, and some snippets from it, can be found here:

First Amended Complaint - Taitz v Obama (filed 3/22/2010)

25 posted on 03/26/2010 10:04:26 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

I’m saying that the cases that are trying to remove Obama have no traction and they have very little possibility of succeeding. Let’s focus on the task at hand. I agree with you in principle, but focusing on something that makes us all look like a bunch of loonies isn’t going to help us get this thing overturned!!!


26 posted on 03/26/2010 10:09:37 AM PDT by Shadowfax
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To: Shadowfax
Enforcing the Constitution (all of it) should never make anyone look like a loon.

What other parts of the Constitution are you willing to "let slide", other than Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 simply because there is no "traction" to defend it?

27 posted on 03/26/2010 10:14:22 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Elderberry; All
HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

 

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

 

It can't. Of course not. Yet, right there, on his campaign web site F.T.S., it's stated that a foreign government "governed" Barry from birth and the reason it did, was that Barry inherited that foreign citizenship by way of his foreign national father (no matter where he was born). Assuming, of course, that Sr. was his legal father at birth.
How, then, could he possibly be a "Natural Born Citizen" of the U.S.?
Barry Soetoro, the divided citizen at birth!


http://www.jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com

 

Furthermore:  Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate based on the word of 1 relative.

28 posted on 03/26/2010 10:16:51 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

I’m not willing to let any of the Constitution slide. But when you don’t have a case......

You have to pick your battles. I don’t think we should be trying to tie the Constitutionality of the New Deal and Medicare into this case either. Let’s get our freedoms won back and launch a seperate battle to see the birth certificate.

Seriously bad strategy to muddy the waters combining with a lawsuit that keeps getting dismissed.


29 posted on 03/26/2010 10:49:39 AM PDT by Shadowfax
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To: Elderberry
Orly never fails to disappoint me.
30 posted on 03/26/2010 11:07:43 AM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: patriot08

If Obama has spent more than $5,000 on this issue, I will be stunned.


31 posted on 03/26/2010 11:18:21 AM PDT by MrRobertPlant2009
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To: Shadowfax

Your missing the point. This isn’t about the birth certificate.

Right now, there is an (alleged) POTUS, commading our military and signing “legislation” into law & signing treaties with other country’s who was BORN the subject of a FOREIGN gov’t. Even HE admits this.

Health care is a massive monstrosity. However, having an unconstitutional POTUS is even bigger than that, or any other single piece of legislation. Would you be OK with an illegal alien being “pushed” into the office of the Presidency? Of course not. Why not? Simple. Not Constitutionally qualified. Guess what. Neither is Barry.

There is no doubt that in the beginning, NOBODY in a position of power to “do” anything about this was going to stick their neck out on the line to “bring down” the first black president (who really is more white and arabic than black), no matter what he did.

Things are changing now that his popularity is in the toilet.

This “battle” is indeed a most difficult one. But so is getting rid of Barrycare. Just watch.

The country has fallen far from the intent of the Constitution in many areas. Because it will be difficult to get back to were we should be doesn’t mean it’s a battle not worth fighting.

If the office of the Presidency can be successfully usurped, and the precedent set, it’s likely to happen again.

Want to stop ALL of his madness, including Barrycare, go strait to the root and expose him as the usurper he is.

Remember, it took over 2 years for Watergate to eventually bring Nixon down.

I choose to fight for ALL of the Constitution.


32 posted on 03/26/2010 1:24:27 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Well, I hope that others have more sense than you do. Your strategy for trying to go for it all will lose the battle and the war.

The courts are not listening challenges to Obama’s legitimacy. Fact. Trying to attach that issue to the healthcare issue won’t help. The argument that healthcare is unconstitutional because Obama’s illegitimate will just get thrown out of court like all the other challenges to his legitimacy.

You may choose to interpret my argument as meaning that you care more about the Constitution than I do. That reasoning is stupid, in my opinion. I hardly think it betrays great love for the Constitution to follow a strategy that may appeal to principle but will ultimately fail, result in the permanent establishment of socialized medicine, and irrepairably harm the very thing you’re trying to protect.


33 posted on 03/26/2010 1:54:41 PM PDT by Shadowfax
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To: Elderberry

Go Orly go!


34 posted on 03/26/2010 2:12:57 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: Shadowfax

Then by all means, ignore the presidency being usurped. I mean, why not let the precedent be set. It’s an uphill, really tough battle you know. After-all, who cares about A2,S1,C5 anyway. Long live the Queen. Er, ah...I mean King. /s


35 posted on 03/26/2010 5:30:59 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Wow. You’re really trying very hard to misunderstand me, aren’t you?

I didn’t say ignore the legitimacy issue. I’m saying that since it has a poor probability at best of succeeding in any court of law, don’t sink the court battle against healthcare by bringing the legitimacy argument into it. It’d be really stupid to try to win the healthcare argument by basing it on an assertion that no judge appears to be accepting for a second.

By all means, try to get Obama thrown out on the birth certificate thing. Try for the next 3 years. It’s possible, but we probably won’t be able to do it. In the meantime, let’s try to win the healthcare battle by not making stupid mistakes.

Ok?


36 posted on 03/26/2010 5:41:11 PM PDT by Shadowfax
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To: Elderberry
Attorney Orly Taitz – now a candidate for secretary of state in California – today provided to WND a court filing in which she asks that her eligibility challenge be joined with a case that contests the constitutionality of the Democrats' massive health-care plan.

Because all her other cases have gone so well...</sarcasm>

37 posted on 03/26/2010 5:45:12 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Whack-a-mole time.


38 posted on 03/26/2010 5:46:18 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Commander X
This crazy broad just might defeat this health care bill.

Betcha the crazy broad doesn't.

39 posted on 03/26/2010 5:47:28 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Shadowfax
If the State's Attny's General think it's in the best interest of "their" case, then they will include it. If they don't, they wont.

Even if the eligibility issue isn't attached to the current h.c. lawsuit(s), THOSE lawsuits will undoubtedly be an uphill battle as well. I hope that IF they fail initially, you don't give up hope on those as well.

OK?

40 posted on 03/26/2010 6:15:46 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Non-Sequitur

Indeed.


41 posted on 03/26/2010 6:16:15 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: Shadowfax

Perhaps this is Obama’s way to make opposition to health care taboo?


42 posted on 03/26/2010 6:36:52 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I will sit here and give you guys telepathic support.

parsy, who is twiddling his thumbs


43 posted on 03/26/2010 6:57:08 PM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: rxsid
If the State's Attny's General think it's in the best interest of "their" case, then they will include it

Bet you Orly sues all of them if they don't.

44 posted on 03/26/2010 7:38:12 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: MilspecRob
Bet you Orly sues all of them if they don't.

She can't sue them if it was never submitted to them. She filed the motion in the wrong place, she served the wrong people, and she used the wrong format, and that's just for starters. But it's not as if the address of the Panel, and instructions for submissions, are easy to find.

Oh wait, never mind:

United States Judicial Panel on Multidistrict Litigation

45 posted on 03/27/2010 2:32:11 AM PDT by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: HighlyOpinionated
Yet nearly EVERY Judge who looks at her lawsuit is not a Pro-Founding-Fathers-Constitution defending Judge.

They are until they don't agree with Orly's unique reading of the Constitution - then they become part of the conspiracy.

46 posted on 03/27/2010 6:47:54 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: rxsid
How can that legislation be signed into law by a USURPER?

In short, the de facto officer doctrine.

http://scottsdale.injuryboard.com/automobile-accidents/judicial-officers-are-subject-to-the-de-facto-officer-doctrine-and-failure-to-object-to-the-appointment-of-a-judge-pro-tempore-is-a-procedural-defect-that-can-be-waived.aspx?googleid=218558

47 posted on 03/27/2010 6:53:19 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: Non-Sequitur
Whack-a-mole time.

Then it is time to whack yourself.

48 posted on 03/27/2010 10:47:29 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Elderberry

NO, just NO!


49 posted on 03/27/2010 11:46:31 AM PDT by mojitojoe (I don't care what you passed. you are irrelevant. I'll NEVER comply in any way. Read my lips, NEVER!)
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To: rxsid

Jarrett said the king was ready to rule, and he sure is trying. The problem is, he’s a petulant man child. He will fail. OTP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Nlq80DVpo


50 posted on 03/27/2010 11:50:57 AM PDT by mojitojoe (I don't care what you passed. you are irrelevant. I'll NEVER comply in any way. Read my lips, NEVER!)
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