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Muslims Exempt From Obamacare
Liberty and Pride ^ | March 26, 2010 | Conservative American

Posted on 03/26/2010 2:37:51 PM PDT by csd

The new Obamacare legislation that was forced on unwilling Americans this week specifically mandates that we all purchase health insurance. That is, unless you don't believe in that sort of thing. That's right, the current health care bill contains a clause which exempts certain individuals form the requirements and penalties set forth in it.

" EXEMPTIONS FROM INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.

—In the case of an individual who is seeking an exemption certificate under section 1311(d)(4)(H) from any requirement or penalty imposed by section 5000A, the following information:

In the case of an individual seeking exemption based on the individual’s status as a member of an exempt religious sect or division, as a member of a health care sharing ministry, as an Indian, or as an individual eligible for a hardship exemption, such information as the Secretary shall prescribe."

Senate Bill, H.R. 3590, pages 273-274


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1 posted on 03/26/2010 2:37:51 PM PDT by csd
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To: csd

I guess this is one way Obama can convince Americans that they should convert to Islam.


2 posted on 03/26/2010 2:39:15 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We've got an expanding, fat porker government demanding that WE get skinny! I don't get it!)
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To: csd

Muslims and Amish.

This makes the law discriminatory based on religious belief. This makes it unconstitutional.


3 posted on 03/26/2010 2:39:22 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: csd

Remember folks “There is no god but allah and mohammed is his prophet”

bingo, you get the t-shirt


4 posted on 03/26/2010 2:39:38 PM PDT by silverleaf (Karl Marx was NOT one of America's Founding Fathers)
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To: csd

I wish I were surprised.


5 posted on 03/26/2010 2:39:56 PM PDT by GeronL (All politicians are POS. Some are just piled higher and smell worse.)
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To: RobRoy

I think it was unconstitutional long before this clause was brought to light.


6 posted on 03/26/2010 2:40:20 PM PDT by csd (CSD)
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To: csd

Looks like an avenue that can be used to make this travesty as complex and difficult to implement as possible. We are ALL members of exempted classes and should file as such. And when they deny one claim file another using a different expempted class.


7 posted on 03/26/2010 2:41:24 PM PDT by scory
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To: csd

Well, I said paying for abortions was against my religion, so am I exempt?


8 posted on 03/26/2010 2:42:00 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: csd

Where do I sign up to pray 5 times a day and learn explosives? < /S >


9 posted on 03/26/2010 2:42:08 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Islam is incompatible with American traditions and values)
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To: csd

Interesting. I wonder what all the muslim doctors here in the U.S. are going to do?


10 posted on 03/26/2010 2:42:13 PM PDT by raybbr
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To: csd
Well looks like I just became Amish! Though I'm currently nonpracticing...
11 posted on 03/26/2010 2:42:53 PM PDT by apillar
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To: huldah1776

No...Christians are evil, and they’re gonna paid for all the horrible things they’ve done ;)


12 posted on 03/26/2010 2:43:35 PM PDT by csd (CSD)
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To: csd
exemption based on the individual’s status as a member of an exempt religious sect or division,

Okay, I am a Roman Catholic and abortion was, is, and forever will be against my faith.

Where do I go to get my exemption?

13 posted on 03/26/2010 2:43:52 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: silverleaf

You got that WRONG!

The correct saying is:

“There is no god but Allah and Obama Hussein is his Prophet”


14 posted on 03/26/2010 2:44:03 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: RobRoy
My thoughts exactly!!!!!!!!!!
15 posted on 03/26/2010 2:44:31 PM PDT by BossLady (Stupak is as Stupak does......)
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To: csd

Becoming Muslim sure seems to be a whole lot easier than Amish and you get special priveledges at airport secrity too.


16 posted on 03/26/2010 2:44:43 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: csd

Please explain - I’m a little slow.
Where does it exempt Muslims?


17 posted on 03/26/2010 2:45:08 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: mware

Hahaha...silly Catholics, exemptions don’t apply to you.


18 posted on 03/26/2010 2:45:18 PM PDT by csd (CSD)
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To: csd

Time to put a Yellow Post-It note over the front of my bible with the words “Core-Ann” written on it in sharpie, Time to buy a pup tent to wear over myself, and when ever anyone asks me about God I will say, I guess he is “All ‘uh Right?”.


19 posted on 03/26/2010 2:46:24 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: J Edgar

It doesn’t say that explicitly, but muslims believe that insurance of any type is “haraam” (forbidden) because it is what they view as gambling. Therefore, muslims can claim exemption.


20 posted on 03/26/2010 2:47:12 PM PDT by csd (CSD)
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To: csd
Suddenly I feel the urge to start my own sect of Islam: the Lunni's. We'd meet in a converted tavern that hadn't been converted, and we'd study the perversions of infidels, such as erotic dancing, loud music, and an overabundance of good food ... all in the name of the Profit ... er, I mean ... Prophet. Women would be encouraged to attend, wearing our version of the burkha, which used to be called the "miniskirt." And we'd pore over the Koran, especially when doing Number Two in the bathroom, which would double that noble book's usefulness.

'Scuse me. Time for Happy Hour. Er ... I mean ... prayers.

21 posted on 03/26/2010 2:47:25 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: csd

There are three Christian Ministry’s that, I believe, are also exempt.

http://www.samaritanministries.org/

http://medi-share.org/

http://www.chministries.org/

They share the costs for health care for their members.


22 posted on 03/26/2010 2:48:20 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: csd

What about Christian Scientists?


23 posted on 03/26/2010 2:48:21 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: csd
health care sharing ministry ? Is that the mailing I get every so often, I think it's called medishare: it's for Christians, one pays a small premium ( like $200/month) and shares expenses, and prayers for those who need it ? I think it includes a high deductible insurance policy.

This could be a significant out.

24 posted on 03/26/2010 2:48:44 PM PDT by Red Boots
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To: csd

In all seriousness, we should absolutely inundate the Gestapo with exemption requests. And then appeal them. And appeal the appeals. Tie this claptrap up in red tape until it strangles itself in the crib.


25 posted on 03/26/2010 2:48:45 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: RobRoy

Bingo!


26 posted on 03/26/2010 2:49:18 PM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: csd



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27 posted on 03/26/2010 2:49:22 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: csd
I was curious as to what a "health care sharing ministry" is so I Googled. Found this at http://www.healthcaresharing.org/

What is a health care sharing ministry?

A health care sharing ministry (HCSM) provides a health care cost sharing arrangement among persons of similar and sincerely held beliefs. HCSMs are not-for-profit religious organization acting as a clearinghouse for those who have medical expenses and those who desire to share the burden of those medical expenses. These organizations are known as health care sharing ministries (HCSM).


28 posted on 03/26/2010 2:51:37 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Are Christians allowed to eat deviled eggs?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

This is just like the tax Islamic countries have on non-Muslims. I forget the name. This is insane and violates equal protection.

Why isn’t Drudge or others talking about this?


29 posted on 03/26/2010 2:53:07 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain called AMERICANS against amnesty - "racists")
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To: csd; J Edgar
but muslims believe that insurance of any type is “haraam” (forbidden) because it is what they view as gambling.

Correction: They "believe" it when it suits them. BTW, for mandatory car insurance the verdict is that it's haraam, but there's no sin on the individual because the state is forcing it (even though they could choose not to have a car and avoid it, but they get a sort of hardship exemption). Thus, this mandatory health insurance shouldn't be a problem.

30 posted on 03/26/2010 2:54:24 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: silverleaf

Yes, and the American people might believe that if they understood the ramifications of their limits of faith.


31 posted on 03/26/2010 2:54:29 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Frantzie
This is insane and violates equal protection. Why isn’t Drudge or others talking about this?

It'll be a great argument to make in the current State Attorney Generals' lawsuits.

32 posted on 03/26/2010 2:56:03 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

You say the Shahad with a couple of muzzie witnesses and voila you’re a muzzie. Piece of cake.


33 posted on 03/26/2010 2:56:57 PM PDT by bergmeid (Fumigate Washington NOW!!)
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To: mware

I wonder how many times “pro-life” voters across the fifty states have repeatedly voted for abortion candidates, both knowingly and unknowingly? I suspect it is a huge number. If so, that means very few Americans are truly “pro-life.” If pro-life views don’t keep them from voting for such liberal candidates, they are not really pro-life.


34 posted on 03/26/2010 2:58:09 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: apillar

Are you participating in Rumspringa?


35 posted on 03/26/2010 2:58:33 PM PDT by afnamvet (Patriots Rising)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Ahhh, very interesting. So are muslims allowed an exemption for mandatory car insurance?


36 posted on 03/26/2010 2:59:04 PM PDT by csd (CSD)
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To: mware
Okay, I am a Roman Catholic and abortion was, is, and forever will be against my faith.

Sorry, but too many Catholics voted for this bill. They negated your exemption. Pay up!

37 posted on 03/26/2010 2:59:05 PM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: Theodore R.
I am pro life on both sides of the aisle, although I truly struggle with those who do harm to children.
38 posted on 03/26/2010 3:01:18 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: csd

Thanks for the info.
So any Muslim caught gambling in Las Vegas should automatically be compelled to buy health insurance?


39 posted on 03/26/2010 3:01:24 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: FReepaholic

Amish use these and so do other christians.


40 posted on 03/26/2010 3:01:58 PM PDT by Chickensoup (We have the government we deserve. Is our government our traitor?)
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To: bergmeid

Well, then. It looks like Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox members, and others who were party to The Manhatten Declaration, should also be exempt.


41 posted on 03/26/2010 3:04:57 PM PDT by firebasecody (Orthodoxy, telling it straight since AD 33)
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To: Frantzie

jizya


42 posted on 03/26/2010 3:08:13 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: csd

The ranks of muslims and Amish are going to skyrocket!


43 posted on 03/26/2010 3:09:55 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: csd

If this legislation had been sponsored by a GOP Congress and POTUS - the atheists would have a field day.

Wonder if the ACLU will put the kabosh on this Section?

Holding my breath and my burkha!!!!!


44 posted on 03/26/2010 3:11:21 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: TruthConquers

ping!


45 posted on 03/26/2010 3:26:11 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: csd

Because I just luuuuuv diversity I will be a Muslim one day per year. April 15th.


46 posted on 03/26/2010 3:31:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (FReeper Star Traveler is a liar who makes false accusations.)
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To: apillar

I’m Amish also, from a reformed congregation.. something tells me that the Reformed Amish Roman Episcopal Lutheran Presbyterian (Did I leave anybody out ?)Church is about to see a phenomenal expansion


47 posted on 03/26/2010 3:35:14 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: apillar

I’m Amish also, from a reformed congregation.. something tells me that the Reformed Amish Roman Episcopal Lutheran Presbyterian (Did I leave anybody out ?)Church is about to see a phenomenal expansion


48 posted on 03/26/2010 3:35:40 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: csd

So....we can start a new religion based on opposition to Obamacare? Why not?


49 posted on 03/26/2010 3:37:05 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: All

Anyone know if the slightly-less-strict branches of the Mennonite church are allowed the same exemptions as the Amish?


50 posted on 03/26/2010 3:38:25 PM PDT by Ellendra (Can't starve us out, and you can't make us run. . . -Hank Jr.)
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