Skip to comments.Obamacare gives the government access to your bank account
Posted on 04/01/2010 8:17:21 AM PDT by csd
H.R. 3590 gives the federal government specific access to individual bank accounts and medical records as provided by that individuals health plan. The government may monitor an individuals finances and medical records electronically, for the purposes of determining an individuals eligibility for certain programs under the bill. They may also monitor an individuals finances and medical records to ascertain whether that individual has health insurance and is making regular premium payments to an approved health insurance plan; this will allow the federal government to determine each individuals financial responsibilities with respect to penalties and fees prior to or at the point of care as outlined in the bill.
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Yet another reason to have very little $$ there.
What if people do not have a bank account?
Seniors, baby boomers and everyone else are so sc*ewed if the GOP does not win in Nov 2010 and the House DEFUNDs this nightmare.
Democrats forcing people to hide money in mattresses to avoid them?
so... if i have money in my account, they will charge me some extreme amount in order to get care?
How do you survive without a bank account in today’s world?
MMMmmm. Are we “safe” is we keep the money in an account at a stock broker?
Well, down here in Georgia we warned people in 1865 that the Revenuers were comin’ and to bury the silver in the back yard.
ask peopel who survived the last Great Depression. Boxes of mony stored away or buried in the yard. My dear Uncle still keeps his savings hidden in a wall.
I think this particular is mentioned on page 89 of the PDF off senate.gov, but I’m not postive.
But to answer your question, the fed gov’t will have the right to initiate an electronic funds withdrawal from your checking and/or savings account if they believe you haven’t paid your fair share for x, y or z.
It says so in the PDF, in black and white, clear as day.
I have one, but I am thinking about not having one. I don’t like the government snooping in my bank account. It is unAmerican.
The world has changed from the depression era. How do you pay bills, pay property taxes, utility bills etc without a checking account?
I doubt it. Probably safer, but I wouldn't put anything past these fascists.
That’s why 0 wants to give everyone “free” high-speed internet access. It’s easier to steal $$$$ from the people if they do all (or most) of their financial transactions online.
Well, then, that leaves a foreign bank account. Time to do some research. Switzerland anyone?
This needs to be explored a little more now that government is getting so intrusive.
Why is this not considered unreasonable search under the constitution??
So do the property tax collectors. and the utility companies.
I am thinking a lot of self employed and small business owners and entrepreneurs have a cash box on hand-
Govt as a co-signer on your bank accounts may make the practice even more widespread. Those bank accounts could stay open but “shrink” a bit, eh?
Same here....we are totally doing away with our bank accounts....too many problems....not to mention this crap...
I’m doing prepaid cards for now to see how that works....so far so good
Constitution? What Constitution?
They take $96.40 right out of my SS check every month for Medicare Part B and that’s not even considering what they stole from me over the years until the “Medicare Tax”.
next it will be mandatory direct deposit,
you eliminate cash.
yes, do some research on UBS
Probably about all you can do is leave enough in for bills and take the rest in cash so they can’t track what you buy or where you go to spend the little you have left.
I am sure they will check what bars you go to. Whether you buy booze, cigarettes etc, then they will punish you on healthcare.
I tell ya, these people have to go and soon.
“The world has changed from the depression era. How do you pay bills, pay property taxes, utility bills etc without a checking account?”
I have known bible college students to use money orders, I think that is the term, the ones you get at a grocery store. It is a pain, but it is possible to do without a bank. Personally, I would keep the checking with minimal funds in it and do something with savings accounts. But if the gov is able to take funds at will, this nation is not long anyway.
ooh, good idea !
“Constitution? What Constitution?”
You’re right. I forgot. Kinda hard to change my mindset living 53 years thinking we had one.
Keep it up and the IRS will have acess to our arsenal too ;)
Ask Bernie Madoff.
Last time I did that they insisted they wouldn't. They insisted I could make the payment at a private bank nearby; I refused to route my tax payment through a private company whom I had not consented to dealing with. "You're demanding payment, here's my payment, now take it or I risk losing my house for non-payment." Took a lot of ranting on my part for them to consent to accepting tax payment in cash, and they threatened to charge me for counting it.
I read the article. Bummer! MMmmm. Well, I’ll think of something. Maybe I’ll secretly “kill” myself and assume another name. :-)
You did point out that the money says legal tender for all debts public and private?
Big Brother is Watching You.
Orwell was prescient; he just had his dates a little off.
Good for you!
Most companies do that now already.
It's also a violation of the fourth amendment to the US Constitution. Of course, the democRATS hate that document since it limits government's power.
Actually, I paid my property taxes Monday with cash! First time I did it. I called first and they accept cash. Apparently, they will only accept cash from some people, so I decided to try it. It did feel a little strange though.
How does that work? Do you pay on line or what?
The GOP cannot and will not protect us.
We are on our own.
I believe that it also establishes electronic health records of all citizens available to pretty much anyone in the government. So much for the “right to privacy” that the government claimed to be the sole foundation for abortion on demand.
They didn’t have a problem with someone paying in cash insofar as the actual handling thereof was done by a subcontracted private entity for that purpose.
I pointed out they could either take payment or issue me a letter saying they refused payment.
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