Posted on 04/06/2010 11:05:43 AM PDT by Publius772000
I take issue with Rove’s assertion that the questions in the 2010 Census are “almost the same ones Madison helped write for the first Census back in 1790.” According to www.census.gov, the government’s own website, the 1790 questionnaire asked the name of the family head, free white males over 16 years, free white males under 16 years, free white females, slaves, and any other free persons living in the household.
In the next two counts, the questions were scaled back to ask only the head of the household, all free persons and their ages/genders, and slaves. Beginning in 1820, the government began to ask more personal questions, such as the industry in which a person was involved. By 1860, the questions covered “name; age; sex; race; value of real estate; value of personal estate; occupation; birthplace; whether married within the year; school attendance; literacy; whether deaf and dumb; blind, insane, idiotic, pauper, or convict.” Imagine if today we asked people to identify themselves as idiots… most of Congress would be exposed.
In 1940, under FDR, Americans were asked questions about their “Address; home owned or rented; value or monthly rental; whether on a farm; name; relationship to household head; sex; race; age; marital status; school attendance; educational attainment; birthplace; citizenship of foreign born; location of residence 5 years ago and whether on a farm; employment status; if at work, whether in private or nonemergency government work, or in public emergency work (WPA, CCC, NYA, etc.); if in private work, hours worked in week; if seeking work or on public emergency work, duration of unemployment; occupation, industry, and class of worker; weeks worked last year, income last year.” Progressivism was moving toward one of its early peaks...
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The reason they asked about race 200 years ago is because the government of the day discriminated against people by reason of race.
That is exactly the same reason today’s government ask the question.
Conservatives in Red States and areas need to make sure they are counted.
People in blue states -— not so much.
I agree... I have no issue with the counting aspect of the census. It’s the money spent on advertising, the insistence that we fill it out to get our fair share of government cash (furthering the belief that government is some sort of Daddy Warbucks character), and the idea that we are being further separated in terms of race.
As one other poster already said, the motive of both questionnaires is racism.
“Conservatives in Red States and areas need to make sure they are counted.”
Why? I want my state to get as little federal money as possible. I could care less if the state house shuts down.
This gimme mentality needs to stop on both sides.
“The reason they asked about race 200 years ago is because the government of the day discriminated against people by reason of race.
That is exactly the same reason today’s government ask the question.”
You got that right and Karl Rove is one of the biggest Hispanderers around. It’s no wonder he had no objection to all the silly, racist questions about that.
Rove with the help of Grover Norquist is who led GW down the amnesty path, and didn’t hesitate to call anyone who didn’t like it ‘bigots’.
Karl Rove says George Bush missed chance for immigration reform
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2468200/posts
[snip[According to a congressman’s wife who attended a Republican women’s luncheon yesterday, Karl Rove explained the rationale behind the president’s amnesty/open-borders proposal this way: “I don’t want my 17-year-old son to have to pick tomatoes or make beds in Las Vegas.”
There should be no need to explain why this is an obscene statement coming from a leader in the party that promotes the virtues of hard work, thrift, and sobriety, a party whose demi-god actually split fence rails as a young man, a party where “respectable Republican cloth coat” once actually meant something.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTZhZDdiYmJlNDViYTAwOWExNmUyMmQ5ODlmMWYwYTU
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7886818289558727325#
Inaccurate census figures mean you will get less business to the area etc.
Why? I want my state to get as little federal money as possible. I could care less if the state house shuts down.
This gimme mentality needs to stop on both sides.
Everybody in red states need to be counted so that there's as many red state representatives as possible in the House. After all, that is the Constitutional purpose of the Census. The division of federal loot is not the original and fundamental purpose.
My concern about the census is that I only pick up my mail once a week and it is all junk mail. I do not sift through it all that carefully for that reason. It would be very easy to throw it away and not even know it.
“Why? I want my state to get as little federal money as possible. I could care less if the state house shuts down.”
I would assume because Congressional representation is based on population. More people, more power in Congress.
Rino.
I agree with you. We need to at the very least send in the counting aspect of the census.
“I would assume because Congressional representation is based on population. More people, more power in Congress.”
Correct. Liberals are absolutely giddy thinking conservatives won’t respond to the Census, and thereby lose power in Congress.
Detroit will have dead people filling out census papers.
And obviously he advised GWB on the issue during the close call last time... If only Hannity and the mainstream conservative voices would recognize that Rove and Bush were moderates, at best.
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