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Facts About the Guardians of the Free Republics (NOTE: this group has no association with FR)
benjf.com ^ | April 6, 2010 | benjf

Posted on 04/06/2010 2:55:24 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite

Facts About the Guardians of the Free Republics 2010-04-06 13:10:57 (Links in this writing are to articles which contained the false claims.)

1. The letters to the governors was non-partisan. Republican and democrat governors received the letters. They don't care which party you belong to as both parties are unlawful. Tim Turner has worked for Homeland Security, "under" Bush, has quit and denounced Bush as one of the most evil men belonging to one of the most evil families of our time. This is not about black or white. Believe me, this movement is not anti-anything except anti-tyranny.

2. It's not sedition to remove a tyrant anymore than it is theft for a woman to take back her purse from a purse snatcher. All people have the right of Postliminium, as stated in the law of nations, which says that things taken by an enemy remain property of the original owner and can be reclaimed once apprehended.

3. Governors are not asked to step down and go home. Rather, they are told that their seat as governor of a corporation is being changed to the seat of a rightful de jure republic governor.

4. The letters were not threatening.

5. They are not "extremists" anymore than an accountants who follow proper book keeping procedure are extremists. People who support the constitution fully will support the Guardians of the Free Republics.

6. All governors have received one, regardless of whether they will admit that they have.

7. The letters have not been published by the media because the content is so compelling that Americans would come out of the woodwork to support them.

8. The Guardians of the Free Republics have not published the letters because they don't want people coming out of the woodwork to revolt once they learn the truth about our country.

9. The recession did not make the Guardians of the Free Republics do this. They, along with Tim Turner, have been creating ways to set the people free from corporate government for years. The rise of people clinging to these ideologies is related to many things but the Guardians of the Free Republics are not reacting to a bad economy, a so-called black president/CEO, or anything other than freedoms being crushed on a daily basis.

10. The Guardians of the Free Republics have nothing to do with Terry Nichols or Timothy McVeigh. This claim is either stupidity or an attempt to plant seeds in the mind of the public that the Guardians of the Free Republics are illegitimate.

11. The Guardians of the Free Republics do not reject all forms of government. They reject unlawful forms of government that do not line up with our constitution.

12. The Guardians of the Free Republics do believe in paying lawful taxes (income taxes) and also believe in obeying laws.

13. The Guardians of the Free Republics are not a Sovereign Citizen Group, as there is no such thing as a "sovereign citizen". Those words are opposites. "Sovereign people" is the accepted phrase. A sovereign's master is God while a citizen's master is government.

14. The Guardians of the Free Republics are not right wing nuts anymore than George Washington was a right wing nut.

Article with hotlinks to false claims


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: governors; guardians; republics
First, let me say I am not a member of this group. This is an apparent attempt by one of the group members to counter some of the false claims made by the gov't-controlled main stream media, about the "Guardians of the Free Republics" which made headline news last week. This is the group that sent the 50 Governors letters requesting them to swear an oath to the Constitution & the De Jure ("lawful") court system, denouncing the fictional corporate US Federal Government & their "De facto" ("legal") court system. The American people, via peaceful means, have now reinhabited the "De jure," lawful Grand Juries in all 50 state jurisdictions. This should be cause for celebration for all lovers of the Constitution for the united States of America, IMHO.
1 posted on 04/06/2010 2:55:25 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite
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To: Beloved Levinite

>> 8. The Guardians of the Free Republics have not published the letters because they don’t want people coming out of the woodwork to revolt once they learn the truth about our country.

That’s just lame.

Most of the rest of it has at least some merit though.


2 posted on 04/06/2010 2:58:19 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: Beloved Levinite

sniff?


3 posted on 04/06/2010 3:00:09 PM PDT by VRWCmember (Gun Control - the ability to consistently hit the intended target)
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To: Beloved Levinite

Interesting....Oh, the GFR didn’t publish these letters — they were released by some of the Governors to the Leftist Media who JUMPED at the opportuinity to print them. Just for the record... And no, I’m NOT a member of GFR...


4 posted on 04/06/2010 3:03:16 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Beloved Levinite

Sounds like a bunch of crazies to me.


5 posted on 04/06/2010 3:04:00 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: Nervous Tick

It’s a given that not everyone will agree with everything proclaimed by this group, or any other group for that matter. (I’m sure the anti-Bush comments will not be welcome by most here, to say the least) however, at least these folks are trying to do something to return us to the lawful republic that this once great nation stood for. Of course, whether or not it works remains to be seen. I for one appreciate the fact that they are going about it in an unarmed, peaceful way.


6 posted on 04/06/2010 3:09:23 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: Beloved Levinite

>> at least these folks are trying to do something to return us to the lawful republic that this once great nation stood for

More power to ‘em, then!


7 posted on 04/06/2010 3:10:36 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: Nervous Tick

>> 8. The Guardians of the Free Republics have not published the letters because they don’t want people coming out of the woodwork to revolt once they learn the truth about our country.

That’s just lame.
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NO, it’s a kindness. If American men and women TRULY understood just how far down the rabbit hole this goes, there WOULD be revolt. This is for the protection of the members serving in our corporate government(s) presently. This is to avoid anarchy and chaos. If you want to see the Declaration, do a search. It’s out there.


8 posted on 04/06/2010 3:11:11 PM PDT by Dasaji (On a beach somewhere in my head...)
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To: Dasaji

>> NO, it’s a kindness.

No it isn’t — it’s nuts.

That attitude puts these GFR folks right square in the category of those who, like our Administration and our Congress, think they’re elite. They, like Congress, consider the rest of us to be morons who can’t handle the truth and need to be led around by the hand (i.e. “governed”).

Bull hockey on that.


9 posted on 04/06/2010 3:14:55 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: Beloved Levinite
13. The Guardians of the Free Republics are not a Sovereign Citizen Group, as there is no such thing as a "sovereign citizen". Those words are opposites. "Sovereign people" is the accepted phrase. A sovereign's master is God while a citizen's master is government.

My take is that a citizen is a master of the government, while a subject's master is the government.

That's why, in part, only citizens are allowed to vote, and why the Constitution demands that only a Natural Born Citizen, may be President.

10 posted on 04/06/2010 3:23:18 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Nervous Tick

That attitude puts these GFR folks right square in the category of those who, like our Administration and our Congress, think they’re elite. They, like Congress, consider the rest of us to be morons who can’t handle the truth and need to be led around by the hand (i.e. “governed”).

Bull hockey on that.

Not going to get into an argument here, FRiend. You either get this or you don’t.


11 posted on 04/06/2010 3:23:32 PM PDT by Dasaji (On a beach somewhere in my head...)
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To: Beloved Levinite
13. The Guardians of the Free Republics are not a Sovereign Citizen Group, as there is no such thing as a "sovereign citizen". Those words are opposites. "Sovereign people" is the accepted phrase. A sovereign's master is God while a citizen's master is government.

My take is that a citizen is a master of the government, while a subject's master is the government.

That's why, in part, only citizens are allowed to vote, and why the Constitution demands that only a Natural Born Citizen, may be President.

12 posted on 04/06/2010 3:24:16 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Beloved Levinite

Bad idea
Bad strategy
Bad PR
Bad chance of success

Very GOOD chance it will make conservatives look nuts!


13 posted on 04/06/2010 3:26:04 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Beloved Levinite

Tim Turner has worked for Homeland Security, “under” Bush, has quit and denounced Bush as one of the most evil men belonging to one of the most evil families of our time.

This whole “movement” smells to me.......It sounds like a bunch of leftists.....NO mention of Obama or Gov’t tyranny on the Democrat side. I think these are a bunch of Anarchists who are using the Grass Roots anti-obama sentiment for their own agenda.....


14 posted on 04/06/2010 3:26:47 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: Kansas58
Very GOOD chance it will make conservatives look nuts!

They've stolen FR's name and FR's eagle in their logo.

15 posted on 04/06/2010 3:33:25 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Kansas58

“Very GOOD chance it will make conservatives look nuts!”

Been a lot of that going around lately. FWIW, the “group” may not be much of a group after all:

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/04/guardians-free-republics-astroturf-clive-boustred-militia-government-patriot-threat-exposed

parsy, who says count to one or two and you come pretty close


16 posted on 04/06/2010 3:36:43 PM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: Jean S

Potential copyright infringement?


17 posted on 04/06/2010 3:40:00 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: darkangel82

Maybe, but FR can’t afford to sue.


18 posted on 04/06/2010 3:42:04 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jean S; Jim Robinson

FR can afford to send those jokers a bunch of letters, they seem to like sending them, let’s see if they like receiving them!


19 posted on 04/06/2010 3:57:50 PM PDT by mkjessup (0bama is doing to America what Roman Polanski did to his victim, but without lube.)
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To: Nervous Tick

So how do you propose we return to lawful government without some folks leading the charge? Does not the Tea Party & Tea Party express movements have “leaders” who organize the ranks? As far as I can see, these folks have the best interest of all Americans at heart. They are not “anti-gov’t” they are for “lawful govt” that the republic(s) once stood for.


20 posted on 04/06/2010 4:33:46 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: parsifal
parsifal, you know not of what you speak. you should do your own research before having knee jerk reactions. this is a hit piece containing dis-info. i would not be surprised if it is gov't sponsored. Natuarally the Feds will do their best to bring down a peaceful revolution attempting to reurn us to a lawful republic. read the groups docs and tell me what you disagrree with.

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This is journalism? Submitted by Anonymous journalist reporting for duty (not verified) on Fri Apr. 2, 2010 5:16 PM PDT. This is nonsense masquerading as journalism. This group has over 2000 members nationwide at the moment. Yes, it's connected with several Texas radio stations. He should do more research before he writes about things he knows nothing about. CNN even had an audio clip from Sam Kennedy on his radio show. All this story is attempting to do is join the cadre of stories coming out today to gain web hits for ad revenue. Truth be damned! The group has been around for several years. Just because your local poker group does not have a website broadcasting it's intentions does not mean it does not exist. Private groups, clubs, secret societies don't have websites you moron. The website was generated to recruit additional people if you read it - www.gotfr.com. Based on Clive's views, he is probably a member of the group. However, simply by being the registered person for the website does not make him a leader or owner. Heard of a proxy registration? Check out GoDaddy, they have them. The MSM still can't get the story right. The ultimatum given is: accept your proper place as a governor controlled by the people within the republic as laid out in the Constitution and stay in office or you will be replaced. (Read the website) Now who would make such a claim to all the governors without the ability to enforce it? You get support within the military. And the FBI didn't even arrest Sam Kennedy after a 2 hour interview....go figure. -

21 posted on 04/06/2010 4:43:43 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: Beloved Levinite; All

Before everybody starts getting their panties in a wad over this, do just a “little bit” more digging.

Many of us have been scratching our heads over the years here on this forum, reading articles about what our “government” is doing that defies ALL logic. Defies actual LAW. Things that seem to defy EVERYTHING we learned about our Constitution in 10th grade History Class as far as How The Law Is Supposed To Work - yet, it just doesn’t seem to be working like that, eh?

Of course there is greed and corruption on all sides - but don’t you ever wonder just how they seem to be actually getting away with it right in front of our noses?

The group who put this Declaration together has figured out how to LAWFULLY ‘fight fire with fire.’ We The People have had the Bigger Fire all along (Common Law and the Constitution) but it’s taken some time to figure out how to use it *powerfully* to get around the shenanigans of our so-called “court system” and so-called “government(s).”

Is this group “small”? Doesn’t matter - the impact is what matters. And it’s making an impact. . .if you know what to look for in the headlines.


22 posted on 04/06/2010 4:50:33 PM PDT by Dasaji (On a beach somewhere in my head...)
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To: Beloved Levinite

>> Does not the Tea Party & Tea Party express movements have “leaders” who organize the ranks?

Sure — but I’ve never heard those tea party leaders say I can’t see the problems exposed to the plain light of day, ‘cause I might “revolt”. Quite the opposite, actually. They seem to believe that the MORE I know about the evils of government, the BETTER.

>> They are not “anti-gov’t” they are for “lawful govt” that the republic(s) once stood for.

Great! Then they should PUBLISH THEIR MATERIAL for ALL to see. Why not?


23 posted on 04/06/2010 8:33:08 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: Nervous Tick

I was paraphrasing Sam Kennedy. He said this. Really, they want a peaceful revolution behind the scenes where the public gradually feels everything get fixed without a fight.


24 posted on 04/06/2010 9:19:45 PM PDT by benf101
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