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Posted on 04/07/2010 7:34:39 PM PDT by jmcenanly

From the Boy Scout Handbook, Copyright 1965, BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA: New Brunswick New Jersey No. 3227 page.438.

When you reach the age of voting citizenship you will know the true meaning of democracy and of liberty and will be able to carry out your duties to your country--obeying its laws, taking your place in the community.

Be a thinking citizen--not a thoughtless one.

Keep yourself informed on the happenings of the day--in your own community,your country, and throughout the world.

Learn how your country, your own State, your city, town, or village are governed and find out how you fit into that government. Discover where that government is strong and where it is weak. Do your part as a citizen in the big task of upholding its strength and overcoming its weaknesses.

But be prepared as well to do your part in the smaller tasks--in such everyday things as obeying traffic regulations, living up to game laws when you go hunting or fishing, serving on jury duty when called, and many other things.

Find out about our political parties and what they stand for--all of them, not just one. Study all sides of a question that concerns the welfare of your community, your State, your country. Then take your stand and vote as your conscience bids you. Vote those people into public office you fell best fitted to do what you think is right.

That's the way to make democracy work.

But don't stop there.

Remember that America is not a gift that is freely given us. Each of us must deserve it. We must work for America, live for it, and if the call should come, die for it!

"A chain is as strong as its weakest link."

A nation is as strong as each of its citizens. America is as strong as YOU are!


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; patriotism
This sounds as fresh as though it had been written this morning, yet the Scouts who read it are now approaching their 60's.
1 posted on 04/07/2010 7:34:39 PM PDT by jmcenanly
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To: jmcenanly

Nice. Is this still in the current handbook?

I guess I need to get over to the scout shop - my boy’s first meeting is Monday - he got his Cub Scout Arrow of Light and crossed over about 2 weeks ago.


2 posted on 04/07/2010 7:41:10 PM PDT by mommya
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To: jmcenanly

I still have the handbook that was published just before this one.


3 posted on 04/07/2010 7:41:37 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: mommya

Congratulations to your son crossing over. Mine crossed over 3 years ago. He is going to the National Jamboree at Fort AP Hill at the end of July.


4 posted on 04/07/2010 7:43:02 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: mommya
I guess I need to get over to the scout shop - my boy’s first meeting is Monday - he got his Cub Scout Arrow of Light and crossed over about 2 weeks ago.

Good luck to him. I got my Eagle card in 1982. I still have it in my wallet.

5 posted on 04/07/2010 7:45:56 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Flame away...)
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To: jmcenanly
When you reach the age of voting citizenship

You are no longer a Boy Scout. :o(

Sad the irony. But you are Prepared!

6 posted on 04/07/2010 8:00:01 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (Jim Bunning we will miss you. Palin/Cheney 2012)
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To: mommya
Is this still in the current handbook?

Gimme a few I'll go look what last years said.

7 posted on 04/07/2010 8:14:22 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: jmcenanly

Bfl


8 posted on 04/07/2010 8:18:38 PM PDT by newheart (History is an outbreak of madness--Ellul)
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To: Domandred; mommya
Nope, 1984 version and 2009 version are quite a bit different than the 1965 version. Definitely doesn't say "if the call should come, die for it!".

2009 version talks about the military protecting our borders. Also says something like "ignorance, apathy, and prejudice are enemies of the country. Defeat those by taking advantage of educational opportunities."

I did find something interesting in the 1984 version though that I forgot about:

The American's Creed

I believe in
the United States of America as a Government of the people, by the poeple, for the people;
whose just powers are derived from the consent of the governed, a democracy in a republic;
a sovereign Nation of many sovereign States;
a perfect Union, one and inseperable;
established upon those principles of freedom, equality, justice, and humanity for which American patriots sacrified their lives and fortunes.

I therefore believe it is my duty to my country
to love it;
to support its Constitution;
to obey its laws;
to repect its flag;
and to defend it against all enemies. (foreign and domestic)

Okay I added the last foreign and domestic in parenthesis.

I didn't see that in the 2009 version.

9 posted on 04/07/2010 8:34:34 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: jmcenanly

Didn't our Heavenly Father, through our Savior tell us...

How well we deserve this curse (~so shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things~) God has given us, through the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF, the FASCIST Obama.

This too shall pass...(probably is coming to pass ... right now)

Let us be ... a "thorn in their side".


10 posted on 04/07/2010 8:38:24 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: Domandred

Interesting. Thank You.

The older stuff is better, a much more powerful message.

I like the Creed.

I think I will print it all out and give it to the Scout Master.


11 posted on 04/07/2010 8:41:51 PM PDT by mommya
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To: jmcenanly

It implores the scouts to study all political parties and decide which one is best. In 1965 there were DEMOCRATS that make todays conservatives look like Sean Penn.


12 posted on 04/07/2010 9:21:30 PM PDT by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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To: Yosemitest
Yours was the fifties book.

This is the Sixties edition.


13 posted on 04/07/2010 9:23:41 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: SandRat

Scouting ping.


14 posted on 04/07/2010 9:26:06 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: jmcenanly

Try already in their 60’s in my case and still in Scouting teaching Scouting to another generation.


15 posted on 04/07/2010 9:32:31 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: RonF; AppauledAtAppeasementConservat; Looking for Diogenes; Congressman Billybob; ...

16 posted on 04/07/2010 9:34:30 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: mommya

I take it that “crossed over” doesn’t mean that your son had died. Is that Boy Scout jargon for something?


17 posted on 04/07/2010 9:38:45 PM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Theo
I take it that “crossed over” doesn’t mean that your son had died. Is that Boy Scout jargon for something?

Crossing over is a term used for when a cub scout turns into a boy scout.

18 posted on 04/07/2010 9:44:53 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: BulletBobCo

Thank you for the explanation. I was both a cub scout and a boy scout, and had never heard that term. Sounds kind of morbid.


19 posted on 04/07/2010 9:54:13 PM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: jmcenanly
That printing date is right in line with when I joined the Scouts. It was a Wednesday evening meeting. A hike on the C&O Canal was scheduled for Saturday, but you had to be at least a Tenderfoot to go. Thursday was Memorial Day. I studied on Wednesday night and went to the scoutmaster's house on Thursday afternoon. Bingo! Tenderfoot overnight. It was 1967. In July, I went to Scout camp at the Goshen Scout camps. July 18th I earned my 2nd class badge. By the end of year, I had made First Class and had all the merit badges completed for Star.

It was April 12th 1972 when the board of review approved me as an Eagle Scout. The next most significant event was graduation from UCSD in June 1976. Frankly, the life lessons learned in Scouts have been more practically useful than even the college degree.

20 posted on 04/07/2010 11:47:00 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: higgmeister

The earlier ... the better .... less political correctness.


21 posted on 04/08/2010 1:21:41 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

......You are no longer a Boy Scout. :o(.....

Actually, that is not a true statement. I am approaching 68 and am a registered Scout. I am not as active as before but still have Scouting jobs.

I became a cub in 1950 and hold the Arrow of Light and the Eagle Rank. I am a 45 year BSA veteran and will have 50 years by 2012.

Stay registered with a unit. Stay involved at some Scouting job at the unit, district or Council level.


22 posted on 04/08/2010 4:20:53 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: mommya

Congratulations to you and your son. He’s in for a great time in Boy Scouting. And you are as well if you get involved.

Our son passed his Life BoR (Board of Review) a couple of weeks ago and is now working on his last few Merit Badges and planning his Eagle Project.

He wants to be a Centennial Eagle Scout.


23 posted on 04/08/2010 5:31:40 AM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: Theo; BulletBobCo

They are also referred to as “Bridging Ceremonies”. Where a Cub “crosses over” a bridge to Boy Scouts. It’s just the manner in which people call it. They’re the same thing.

http://usscouts.org/cubscouts/bridgcer.asp


24 posted on 04/08/2010 5:38:07 AM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: Yosemitest

There is that, but there is also less emphasis on patriotism, duty to country, duty to God.

It’s still there in MB’s, rank advancement, etc., just not emphasized as much IMO. In my experiences I’ve seen where it can vary quite a bit from Troop to Troop. It depends on the leaders and how important certain things are.

Our Troop has a lot of active duty and retired military, so we’re pretty strict in regards to flag etiquette, saluting, national history, etc.

We do keep our boys informed about the constant attempts by the left to tear down Boy Scouting. We want them to know that this is something that may not be around if the libtards get their way and for the boys to appreciate what they have.


25 posted on 04/08/2010 5:44:22 AM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: jmcenanly
you will know the true meaning of democracy and of liberty

I do. Liberty is the goal we should share, and democracy fights it every step of the way.

26 posted on 04/08/2010 5:51:14 AM PDT by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Alright, time for my soapbox.

Check out Venturing. Seriously. It’s an outstanding program for older boys (and girls), and it allows them to remain active as a scout until their 21st birthday. That’s why so many Lodge, Section, and National Officers of the Order of the Arrow are 18-20 year-old Venture Scouts.


27 posted on 04/08/2010 8:05:44 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: jmcenanly

I tried to serve on a jury. I was questioned closely by the defense and prosecuting lawyers. They decided that I was too well informed in subject matters pertaining to the case (it was a malpractice suit and I’ve worked for a medical device company and a hospital) and would be likely to make up my own mind about things rather than depending purely on what they told me.


28 posted on 04/08/2010 8:17:46 AM PDT by RonF
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To: mommya

Excellent. Tell him to enjoy the adventure.

My youngest crossed over three weeks ago and join his brothwer in the troop. Oldest is Star and about 2 months away from earning Life. He is serving as Asst. Senior Patrol Leader.


29 posted on 04/08/2010 9:18:35 AM PDT by cyclotic (Boy Scouts-Developing Leaders in a World of Followers.)
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To: bert; SmithL
My friends, I am a former Star and proud father of an Eagle.

My provocative statement was, as you know, intended to point out that until 18 years old is when one is eligible to be a Boy Scout yet unable to vote...not whether one can be involved with the organization.

30 posted on 04/08/2010 9:52:32 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (Jim Bunning we will miss you. Palin/Cheney 2012)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

And I never pass up an opportunity to recruit.


31 posted on 04/08/2010 10:20:51 AM PDT by SmithL (It's a great day for Scouting!)
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To: mommya

Congratulations! I have a Star Scout working on Life.


32 posted on 04/08/2010 12:44:26 PM PDT by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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To: Onelifetogive

Beat me by one year. I have letters signed by Reagan, Gingrich, and Sam Nunn. All men I politically respect.


33 posted on 04/08/2010 12:45:46 PM PDT by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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To: SZonian
just not emphasized as much IMO. In my experiences I’ve seen where it can vary quite a bit from Troop to Troop. It depends on the leaders and how important certain things are.

My son's troop is 100% Christian home schooled boys. Quite a lot of God, patriotism etc.

34 posted on 04/08/2010 6:17:50 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Day 3: the nice Jewish boy pulls off the greatest escape ever.)
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To: SZonian
I understand.
There was a Flag Ceremony about the history of the flag, my parents attended at my Senior NCO Leadership Course in Keesler AFB, that I wish you could have seen or have the program to. But that was many years ago.

May I recommend WallBuilders?


35 posted on 04/09/2010 3:18:24 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: SZonian
Start with Red Skelton's Pledge of Allegiance

After some research, here are the words (lesson 1) to that Ceremony but it needs actors dressed in appropriate attire for that year to present that flag in front of a dark blue curtain, with dark lighting, and a spot light focused on each flag, as the story progresses. You can have several actors march slowly in a line across the stage, in front of the Speaker's podium in dark lighting, with candle light on each guest dining table for the crowed.

You get the picture ... BUT ... Before you start ... Record and play this FACE THE FLAG, SON by John Wayne

I Am the FLAG
by Ruth Apperson Rous

And end with John Wayne and the Pledge of Allegiance


36 posted on 04/09/2010 4:02:57 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: SZonian
Here's you a few more to consider.

Ragged Old Flag by Johnny Cash

THE HYPHEN - JOHN WAYNE (HD)

Taps History told by John Wayne

John Wayne "America Why I Love Her"

Why are you Marching Son - Spoken by John Wayne

37 posted on 04/09/2010 4:42:51 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: aliquando
I have letters signed by Reagan, Gingrich, and Sam Nunn.

It sounds like you may be missing a Paul Coverdell.

38 posted on 04/09/2010 9:26:13 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister

I only received a letter from one Senator. Sam is an old school democrat that I respect. Not Sure how they chose which Senator you received a letter from. I still like the collection! Paul was a wonderful senator.


39 posted on 04/09/2010 10:13:16 PM PDT by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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