Posted on 04/08/2010 5:28:11 PM PDT by Starman417
Walter Williams, always a pleasure to read or hear on radio, has a thought provoking column today called Parting company with those neglecting the Constitution. Those who make it their daily task to find ways to demonize conservative viewpoints - and most especially one who is a black conservative - are likely to be johnny on the spot to accuse Williams of fomenting secessionist fever.
The soundbyte news hounds who educate themselves by headlines alone will miss William's own opinions on his proffered commentary.... found in the last paragraph. But the content leading up to his own hopes for reconciliation will be buried merely by his suggestion that this nation is so divided between "...those Americans who want to control other Americans and those Americans who want to be left alone, that separation is the only peaceable alternative." Like a troubled marriage, we can seek to reconcile the differences, or agree to part amicably for irreconcilable differences.
Secession attempts in our own historical past have resulted in both the Revolutionary and Civil Wars. The latter is more aptly called the War between the States since this was not a battle for control over a single government, but an confederation of states of the willing.. of which a few decided they were not so willing for sundry reasons that included economic survival, independence, protectionist tariffs (both wars) and slavery (in the latter). But as Williams points out, secession doesn't need to result in war.
In 1905, Norway seceded from Sweden; Panama seceded from Columbia (1903), and West Virginia from Virginia (1863). Nonetheless, violent secession can lead to great friendships. England is probably our greatest ally.The bottom-line question for all of us is: Should we part company or continue trying to forcibly impose our wills on one another?
The chasm runs deep between Americans and, moreover, is founded in the lofty philosophy of what many of us believe is Congressional abrogation of Constitutional power. The arenas that Congress now definitively state they have full power to tax, spend and regulate has been aided for over a century by a Supreme Court, dancing carefully on the fence separating the branches of power.
By SCOTUS concertedly avoiding the basic question in many a citizen's mind - that being are there any limits to what Congress can attach authority and abscond with taxpayers earnings?
Read more at floppingaces.net...
Free men and women cannot co-exist with statists, looters and moochers. How long must we be at the mercy of the parasitic entitlement class and the professional political ruling class?
Whew, being conservative and black—that really brings out the libtard hatefulness.
Ask Justice Thomas.
I am thinking he may be right. Unless we see a massive change in direction over the next 2 election cycles and a shift in Washington to reduce it’s central planning powers, I don’t think we can survive as one people much longer. I also hope to see a shift, but I am concerned about the coming tipping point where 51% become pure recipients, living off the other 49%.
if the United States seceded from the USSA it would have a bigger GDP in just a few years. But how would you legislate away laziness? would the constitution state that the government provides no domestic services at all? I am thinking the new government would be limited to building interstate highways and thats about it. The post office would be private as well as all trains and utilities.
Disagreement is rapidly turning to hate, I don’t see that changing as things go now.
I learned today that there is no hope. Every Republican I work with thinks the tax system is fair and works just fine. There is no reason to care anymore. Even Republicans are pro big government and high taxes.
There are options that can be tried before full secession. A “partial secession” could be tried. In that I mean several states with fairly conservative rural districts that are dominated by large liberal cities could secede. Those states are New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Minnesota, Oregon, Washington, and possibly others. This would put up to 12 new conservative senators in the Senate and change the balance of power.
They’ll get the kids and you’ll pay through the nose till they grow up.
Primarily because the libtards are doing everything they canb to set off a civil war.
The level of dishonesty in the MSM & non Fox cable news is like nothing I’ve ever seen before, including in 1968 Chicago.
The right and constitutional answer is the enforcement of the 10th Ammendment.
States should be semiautonomous anyway. For a variety of reasons we have gotten far away from that; its time to push back. A good step one would be to insist on the return of all or nearly all federal lands to the states.
The federal government should not be in the business of owning land except for specific sites and facilities. Military base, fine. Office building, great. A hundred million acres of open land, uh, no.
All federal park lands, forest lands, monument lands, and BLM lands should be handed over to the states along with the professional staff managing them. The states can decide at that point what to do with them. As far as I am concerned, BLM lands should be privatized, sold off to the public with leaseholders getting first dibs maybe. Or maybe not.
Not a divorce. Just separate bedrooms.
Reminds me of this email that was floating around several months back:
THE DIVORCE
Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al:
We have stuck together since the late 1950’s, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but
sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let’s just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way. Here is a model separation agreement:
Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by
landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide
other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.
We don’t like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.
Since you hate guns and war, we’ll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O’Donnell (You are, however,responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three
of them).
We’ll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations,
pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies and illegal aliens. We’ll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO’s and rednecks. We’ll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood.
You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we’ll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks and war protesters.When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we’ll help provide
them security.
We’ll keep our Judeo-Christian values.. You are
welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U. N.. but we will no longer be paying the bill.
We’ll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.
You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We’ll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right.
We’ll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I’m sure you’ll be happy to substitute Imagine, I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World.
We’ll practice trickle down economics and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you, we’ll keep our history, our name and our flag.
Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along
to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I’ll bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.
Sincerely,
John J. Wall Law Student and an
American
P. S. Also, please take Barbara Streisand & Jane Fonda
with you.
I've got some news for you.
- "Secession" isn't going to work. If you think the left is just going to let you walk away, you're delusional.
- The ballot box has just about had it as a viable instrument. As I've said before, if ballots are even going to matter anymore you'll be very, very lucky.
- The left is already waging civil war against the rest of America. It might look like a bloodless war so far, but really it is not; just look at the terror war being waged by islam with the collusion of the left.
Look for a terrorist attack, perhaps done by twelve or twenty small strike gangs attacking Malls murdering anyone they see, in perhaps late September or October of this year. Martial law will be imposed ‘temporarily, to protect the citizenry and find the weapons cahes of terrorists’. And recall whom the current sonofabitch-in-chief considers the danger to America ... the fascist now in power are not going to let elections remove them from power. PERIOD!
President Clinton's effort to forcibly impose socialized medicine on our nation has answered a question gnawing at me for quite some time.The question is whether we have reached a point where those of us who love liberty, private property rights, rule of law and the Constitution given to us by our founding fathers should organize to make preparations to secede from the union.
I came across that old yellow paper while cleaning out a file just a few days ago. It was in the October 20, 1993 Mobile Press Register.
Deja vu, all over again.
Even Republicans are pro big government and high taxes.
The GOP was founded on big government and high taxes. Reaganism was a blip that wasn’t supposed to happen.
America should have been paying closer attention to men like Walter. Instead, asshat socialist race baiters like Sharptoon and Jackasson garner the fifth column enemedia’s attention.
I believe that George F. Kennan before his death (at age 101) argued that the dissolution of the United States was desirable and inevitable. I cannot cite the specific article, perhaps his memoirs, but would appreciate it if someone can check me on this.
I know that the left will never voluntarily let go of power if they can help it. They will lie and cheat and steal and even kill to keep it.
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