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To: mad_as_he$$
A house divided against itself cannot stand.

Do you think for a moment that the selfsame Socialists who are looting this nation will let large parts of it simply walk away? Especially large, productive parts?

They have the mandates and the parasites, they aren't going to let the means of production quietly walk off.

The ensuing war (yes, war, this has been tried before) would be all the reason the UN would need to impose international peacekeepers on the US, who would be welcomed by the Global Socialists, and who would have no compunctions about killing and looting here.

No, the end of that road is a dark and ugly place, not just for America, but for the world.

If there is to be a fight, it is for all of us, together, to reinstate our Constitutional Republic, and not to break it up, and preferably without having to resort to violence.

33 posted on 04/09/2010 10:31:01 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

So what’s left? Knuckle under to tyranny? We will never get it back with elections.


36 posted on 04/09/2010 10:35:06 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Smokin' Joe

UN peace keepers would be slaughtered by the people. What needs to happen is the destrucion of progressivism, to do this we need an unbiased media. The problem in America is the MSM, it needs to be revitalized.


38 posted on 04/09/2010 10:36:59 AM PDT by east1234 (It's the borders stupid! My new environmentalist inspired tagline: cut, kill, dig and drill)
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To: Smokin' Joe
If there is to be a fight, it is for all of us, together, to reinstate our Constitutional Republic, and not to break it up, and preferably without having to resort to violence.

See #9.

I don't know who you mean by "us", Joe. We (here) are, and have tried, to hang onto the constitutional way. Those on the other side of that fence don't want it. I just don't know how we get there, from where we are now. I think elections are forever tainted.

40 posted on 04/09/2010 10:38:49 AM PDT by workerbee (Yes, I hate Obama because of his color: RED!)
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To: Smokin' Joe
A house divided against itself cannot stand.

We currently HAVE a house divided. IMO, a better result would be each side getting their OWN house, where they can each live the way they want.

41 posted on 04/09/2010 10:40:21 AM PDT by Wissa ("So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause."-Padme Amidala)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Especially large, productive parts?’

Do we have those anymore?

“all the reason the UN would need to impose international peacekeepers on the US, who would be welcomed by the Global Socialists, and who would have no compunctions about killing and looting here.”

Hit the nail on the head there! A split is exactly what our enemies want. There is no way Indiana could defend itself against UN troops or a Mexican “Red Dawn” invasion. Don’t think for a minute they haven’t thought of that!

“If there is to be a fight, it is for all of us, together, to reinstate our Constitutional Republic”

We “free states” must hang together. If California or New York (or whatever) refuse the Constitution then good riddance!

In the (first) Civil War the south did not have the means of production as the north did otherwise it might have turned out different.

Only if the majority of the states agree to reject the Federal Government could there be any victory. The “means of production” we need to be concerned about is the taxes that keep the Fed going. If that were cut off it would fall.


56 posted on 04/09/2010 11:09:38 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (To argue witha person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead)
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