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Professor Bemoans Stupidity of His 'Teabagger' Students
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Posted on 04/09/2010 10:39:12 AM PDT by jentilla

Panelist Robert S. McElvaine, who is Elizabeth Chisholm Professor of Arts & Letters and chair of the department of history at Millsaps College, focused on the argument – made, he said, by many conservatives today – that the failure of the New Deal to end the Great Depression shows that government spending isn’t the way to revive a slumping economy. “The most important thing to realize,” said McElvaine, “is that so-called conservatives – I prefer to call them ‘regressives’ ” – have long been trying to “restore the conditions that created the Great Depression in the first place.”

“These are people of faith,” McElvaine continued, “and their basic faith is in the market as God.”


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KEYWORDS: conservatives; greatdepression; obamaisateabagger
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21 posted on 04/09/2010 10:57:30 AM PDT by WKB (From "Handout" to "Bailout")
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To: jentilla
Elizabeth Chisholm Professor of Arts & Letters and chair of the department of history at Millsaps College

Talk about "all hat, no cattle". that's a mighty big title.

22 posted on 04/09/2010 10:58:07 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: massgopguy

I wish Professor Condescension would read about it, too!


23 posted on 04/09/2010 10:59:04 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: All

I’ve learned to doubt the intellectual capacity of those who are quickest and loudest to bleat about it,,


24 posted on 04/09/2010 11:01:40 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: jentilla

its very hypocritical, of the libs who all about gay rights, to use a term like tea bagger, as a derogatory slam for republicans.

but expecting anything sensical from libs, is a waste of effort. some day maybe we can study them, under a petri dish, or in a cage.


25 posted on 04/09/2010 11:02:12 AM PDT by tm61 (somewhere in chicago, a ward is missing it's crook)
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To: 6SJ7

“Elizabeth Chisholm Professor of Arts & Letters and chair of the department of history at Millsaps College”

Remember, only true saps, teach at Millsaps


26 posted on 04/09/2010 11:04:20 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: jentilla
From 2004:

UCLA Economics professors: FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate

"... "Why the Great Depression lasted so long has always been a great mystery, and because we never really knew the reason, we have always worried whether we would have another 10- to 15-year economic slump," said Ohanian, vice chair of UCLA's Department of Economics. "We found that a relapse isn't likely unless lawmakers gum up a recovery with ill-conceived stimulus policies."

(WHY HELLO THAR, OBAMA!)

"... In an article in the August issue of the Journal of Political Economy, Ohanian and Cole blame specific anti-competition and pro-labor measures that Roosevelt promoted and signed into law June 16, 1933.

"... President Roosevelt believed that excessive competition was responsible for the Depression by reducing prices and wages, and by extension reducing employment and demand for goods and services," said Cole, also a UCLA professor of economics. "So he came up with a recovery package that would be unimaginable today, allowing businesses in every industry to collude without the threat of antitrust prosecution and workers to demand salaries about 25 percent above where they ought to have been, given market forces. The economy was poised for a beautiful recovery, but that recovery was stalled by these misguided policies."

California should take lessons from it's own state-run university system, given their half-trillion dollar shortfall in paying public pensions.

27 posted on 04/09/2010 11:05:11 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: RichInOC
But how does it get a Ph.D., a full professorship and a department chair? PhD = Piled Higher and Deeper.

Those than can; do. Those that can't; teach. No offense to any FReeper teachers or PhDs.

28 posted on 04/09/2010 11:06:10 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: jentilla

Hey, I teach in a college, and both my teabagger and teapartier students are a lot smarter than my liberal straight students. My liberal female students miss too many classes having their abortions, and my liberal male students are usually too stoned to show up. The gays and conservatives, always there and always learning.


29 posted on 04/09/2010 11:12:07 AM PDT by cammie
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To: jentilla
“These are people of faith,” McElvaine continued, “and their basic faith is in the market as God.”

Whereas, for this professor and his (presumed) co-religionists of the secular-humanist bent, they are also people of faith, and their basic faith is in the Government as Master. Given that there have been a multitude of governmental and economic systems in the historical record, please elucidate Professor McElvaine, without resorting to the ad hominem so beloved of the current left, what system do you see as performing CONSISTENTLY BETTER OVER TIME?!?!

30 posted on 04/09/2010 11:21:19 AM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: 6SJ7
Talk about "all hat, no cattle". that's a mighty big title.

Titles have an inverse relationship to abilities.

31 posted on 04/09/2010 11:33:04 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: jentilla

Robert S. McElvaine

McElvaine’s latest book, Grand Theft Jesus: The Hijacking of Religion in America (Crown, 2008) is described by the publisher as "a passionate and often hilarious wake-up call to Christians to reject the 'Right Reverends' who have stolen Jesus from Christianity and replaced His true message with 'ChristianityLite,' an easy, feel-good scheme that promises salvation without sacrifice."[2]">

Let's face facts: this guy is a militant atheist and hates Christiaity.

Robert S. McElvaine Hompage


32 posted on 04/09/2010 11:51:52 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Repeat Offender

None of us are offended, as long as you don’t confuse a PhD in hard science or engineering with the joke degrees passed out by colleges of education and the “liberal arts and humanities.”


33 posted on 04/09/2010 11:56:14 AM PDT by FredZarguna ("I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.")
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To: Repeat Offender

No offense taken, RO. But remember that this guy is an HISTORIAN, not an economist. Nowadays there is a whole generation of economists who aren’t as easily fooled as our professors were.

Keynesian economics is no longer the accepted orthodoxy it once was among economics professors. McElvaine has absolutely no credentials to make his claim. He is practicing economics without a license.

On the other hand, we have a Princeton loon, Paul Krugman, who has terminal, early-onset, SFB syndrome. I keep hoping for a Scandinavian right-wing revolution so they’ll take away his Nobel prize and flush it down the toilet where it belongs.

I’d like to hear what the real economists at Millsaps College think. I’ll bet its a lot different from what the historians “think.”


34 posted on 04/09/2010 12:00:12 PM PDT by mywholebodyisaweapon
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To: FredZarguna; mywholebodyisaweapon
My reference was mainly in reference to the "joke degrees" Fred referenced. I assumed (hopefully correctly) that most FReepers would not have joke degrees.

Shoe fits thing.

I was never the college type. So, I joined the military (my plan since I was 6 years old). Now I am struggling to find time to do both.

35 posted on 04/09/2010 12:07:33 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Repeat Offender

I understand, and fully agree with you.

We still have some business and economics professors who just don’t get it, and prolly never will.

Most of the History and English professors are just out-and-out Marxists. When they open their mouths they draw flies like this joker McElvaine.

BTW, I read one of his much-touted books, The Great Depression. It really stank. The guy needs to pull his head back into the sunlight. His students sound light-years smarter than their professor.

Keep the faith!


36 posted on 04/09/2010 12:20:13 PM PDT by mywholebodyisaweapon
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Remember, only true saps, teach at Millsaps

LOL!

37 posted on 04/09/2010 12:33:29 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: jentilla
I was 38 and raising a family when I finally started college, I stirred up so much dissent with the liberal professors it is a wonder I ever graduated. I hope I was able to steer a few kids to the right path.

Twenty years of busting my butt gave me a much different perspective on life and most of the professors were my age or younger. A sentient Redneck was something scary to them, LOL! I argued my way through everything but math and science. No doubt some of them were glad to see me go!

Talk to your kids, find out what they are being taught and be ready to shoot down the crap. If they don't want to talk about it get very suspicious, they may be being taught that you are a clueless old neandertal and wrong about everything. It is happening. Old people, unless they are in a wheelchair, drooling in their lap, scare the liberals, old people know stuff and don't tolerate BS.

38 posted on 04/09/2010 12:41:42 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: snowrip

Next time you hear someone refer to “teabaggers”, refer to him/her as a “teabaggee”.


39 posted on 04/09/2010 1:00:58 PM PDT by MiltonFriedmanFan
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To: jentilla

Since the latest reports are that todays college grads are facing the worst hiring prospects in history, they would possibly be better off quitting.


40 posted on 04/09/2010 1:01:43 PM PDT by Brilliant
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