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So How Overhyped Will the SRLC Straw Poll Be?
The Constitutional Alamo ^ | 04/10/10 | Michael Naragon

Posted on 04/10/2010 6:50:18 PM PDT by Publius772000

The Drudge Report made it the headline story Saturday night: ROMNEY WINS STRAW POLL RESULTS. At the Southern Republican Leadership Conference, the former governor of Massachusetts, who, incidentally, signed into law the state health care system upon which Obamacare is based, narrowly edged Ron Paul in the informal poll of potential GOP candidates for 2012. Sarah Palin was third in the polling, with Newt Gingrich finishing out the top four.

Some of the big guns in the conservative movement and the Republican Party will make a big story out of this, as they have been pulling for Romney since the 2008 primaries. Sean Hannity has done a poor job of proclaiming his neutrality, as he continually sings Romney's praises, even going so far as to have the governor come on his radio show to try explain why Romneycare was different from Obamacare. Glenn Beck has done a better job of appearing neutral of late, but his affinity for Romney gushes at times. I tend to think this has something to do with the religious connections between the two LDS men. Rush Limbaugh has been probably the most guarded about his personal preferences for any one candidate, though he came just short of endorsing Romney in the primary season.

Now, Romney has finally won a straw poll, and the floodgates will open. This will be hailed as a very strong indicator for the former governor who now talks about fiscal responsibility and government cutbacks after signing into law a health care system that has bankrupted the insurance industry in Massachusetts...

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While many in the conservative universe would love to see Mitt Romney as the 2012 Republican presidential nominee, his recent success seems to (possibly) be a sham.
1 posted on 04/10/2010 6:50:18 PM PDT by Publius772000
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To: Publius772000

How much did he pay for each vote?


2 posted on 04/10/2010 6:51:41 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: Publius772000

Sean Hannity has done a poor job of proclaiming his neutrality, as he continually sings Romney’s praises

he talks conservative and pimps his show out for way too many moderates, imo.


3 posted on 04/10/2010 6:55:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: Publius772000

Manufactured credibility by the GOP. Means nothing 2 years out except it might help fund raising.

Romney is a progressive and not a Republican.


4 posted on 04/10/2010 6:58:31 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I guess listening to 30 to 50 percent of Hannity’s broadcasts is not enough to discern his raging moderatism. I just don’t see him as a Mittwit.


5 posted on 04/10/2010 6:59:25 PM PDT by jimfree (In 2012 Sarah Palin will continue to have more relevant quality executive experience than B. Obama.)
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To: Publius772000
"So How Overhyped Will the SRLC Straw Poll Be?"

The fact that the poll was even held this far out is over-hype. Real conservative leaders need to be rolling up their sleeves to win the political fight to save the country from the marxist/socialists now, not trying to win meaningless straw polls two and a half years out from the presidential election.
6 posted on 04/10/2010 7:01:21 PM PDT by ThomasSawyer (Democratic Underground: Proof that anyone can figure out how to use a computer.)
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To: Publius772000; All
It's a meaningless sham...

Paul, Romney backers stacking straw poll deck

Is This How Straw Polls are won? (Mitt folks buying votes?) [As are the Paultards]

7 posted on 04/10/2010 7:03:24 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: jimfree

He has toned down the rhetoric on Romney for the past couple of months, especially as the health care debate raged (rages). But there are typically five or six things you can expect on Hannity’s show: 1) the word “specificity” will be used liberally, 2) he will describe himself as a “Reagan conservative” or will use the “bold colors not pale pastels” line, 3) he will pimp the television show, 4) he will (these days) pimp his book, 5) he will quote/interview/read/praise Mitt, Newt, or Karl Rove, and 6) he will mention at some point that he was the one telling everyone about Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayres. Fill in an audio retelling of the top Drudge stories of the day, and you have Hannity’s radio show without the commercials for Legal Zoom, 1-800-Pro-Flowers, and Ruth’s Chris.


8 posted on 04/10/2010 7:05:40 PM PDT by Publius772000 (http://theconstitutionalalamo.com)
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To: Publius772000
ron paul chair Pictures, Images and Photos Bye Bye Mitt Pictures, Images and Photos CRICKETS
9 posted on 04/10/2010 7:06:52 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: Publius772000
If we do not win in 2010, 2012 matters not.
10 posted on 04/10/2010 7:07:16 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Publius772000

SRLC poll = meaningless


11 posted on 04/10/2010 7:08:33 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come. Judgment Day: Nov 2, 2010)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Neal Boortz said this week that if the Republicans do not retake the House and Senate in 2010, or if they at least do not win enough seats to stop the agenda, he will not fault— nor will he be surprised to see—people making plans to leave the country. The Republic, he explained, cannot survive four full years of these people. And I believe he’s right.


12 posted on 04/10/2010 7:09:21 PM PDT by Publius772000 (http://theconstitutionalalamo.com)
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To: Publius772000

Depends on how much Romney paid for advertising it....

Still it’s just empty headlines. Romney wasn’t even there.


13 posted on 04/10/2010 7:09:39 PM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: Publius772000
MITT ROMNEY EXPOSED BUYING VOTES
NEW ORLEANS -- I spoke to a young female delegate who said she planned to vote for
Romney in the poll. I asked her how she had ended up at the conference.
She said "Evangelicals for Mitt" had contacted her and offered to pay for her to have a
limited-access ticket -- so long as she agreed to vote for Romney in the straw poll.
Asked how "Evangelicals for Mitt" got her name, she said she didn't know. But she said
that she was on the email list for Romney, and speculated that the Romney team
had given out their email list. “

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14 posted on 04/10/2010 7:09:42 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

All of Hot Air hates Palin and loves Rinos. I am sure there are others like that. But not here.


15 posted on 04/10/2010 7:10:31 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: Publius772000

Romney- Buys 500 $119 tickets= $59,500 =TIE FOR FIRST

Paul- Buys 800 $119 tickets= $95,200 =TIE FOR FIRST

Palin- Buys 500 Caribou Jerky= $1,500 = SECOND PLACE

WHICH ONE IS FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE?
WHICH ONE GOT MORE BUCK FOR THEIR MONEY?


16 posted on 04/10/2010 7:10:54 PM PDT by Bigtigermike (Loose lips sink ships, stay away RINO's)
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To: Publius772000
Ron Paul Motivational Pictures, Images and Photos
17 posted on 04/10/2010 7:15:35 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: Publius772000

The strawpoll was bought and paid for as other threads show. And the Rom and Ronbots on FR are drinking it like Jonestown Kool-aid. It gives the lamestream media something to crow about and with all those paid for tickets by the Bots, it probably does more than a little to put the finances of the conference sponsors in the black.


18 posted on 04/10/2010 7:20:54 PM PDT by CedarDave (Sarah: " Shoot ... Oh, I said 'shoot', I'm sorry" ... followed with an embarrassed grin on her face)
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To: Publius772000

RomneyCARE-creator, vote-buying, Mitt Romney:
”Now that Romneycare is national, ready to hurt
three hundred million, a little self examination is in order for you.
You may want to ask yourself “if I had spent my time promoting
RomneyCare and Mitt Romney, could not I have garnered more support
of both Mr. Obama and Gov. Mitt Romney?“


“Romney praises Obama again
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney praised President Obama
at a GOP fundraising dinner Wednesday ..
"I also think it's important for us to nod to the president when he's right," Romney said....
Romney, who spoke at a dinner for the National Republican Senatorial Committee,
said he's pleased with the president's plans to "finish the job" in Iraq and Afghanistan
-- lines that drew applause from the partisan audience. He also applauded the president
for standing up to the auto industry.
"I hope he continues to be tough ....The former businessman even offered faint praise for
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, saying that after a series of initial missteps,
"I think he's finally getting close to the right answer."



19 posted on 04/10/2010 7:23:13 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Publius772000
Same as 2006 SRLC Straw Poll, I'd imagine.

2006 SRLC Straw Poll results.



http://www.nationaljournal.com/srlc/
John McCain, who came in only 5th (behind even Bush who couldn't run in 2008), with just 4.6% of the SRLC vote, ended up winning the GOP primaries, and his strongest opposition in the primaries came from Mike Huckabee who got only 3.8% of the vote. George Allen, who came in third, couldn't even win re-election for his US Senate seat.

20 posted on 04/10/2010 7:24:34 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Publius772000

There is no way in hell Romney will be the nominee nor is newt even in the running. Those that try to convince themselves of that fantasy are idiots and I have to question their conservatism. If you are a southern leader and support a man who put in a health care plan nearly as bad as Obamacare in his state then you are not conservative.


21 posted on 04/10/2010 7:26:20 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Some want to enslave your body others your soul.)
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To: Publius772000

In ‘08, Mitt bought votes to stack the caucus states.
He set up dirty trick front groups to tar his opponents.

Nothing different here. Same old RINOmney.

It is telling that he sees the problems he has with
evangelicals and is (likely funding) a group to make
it appear evangelicals like him. They don’t.

Most of them don’t care for RINOs either.


22 posted on 04/10/2010 7:35:01 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Publius772000

Romney smells like Massachusetts, the state where you have to register machetes. That sort of mentality needs to be restricted to Massachusetts!


23 posted on 04/10/2010 7:38:31 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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Some of the big guns in the conservative movement and the Republican Party will make a big story out of this

There are no CONSERVATIVES anywhere that would support Romney, period. If the GOP is fantasizing about offering him up as a nominee, they should prepare for half of republican voters to stay home.
24 posted on 04/10/2010 7:38:34 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: Publius772000

Concur with all but that is interpreted how?


25 posted on 04/10/2010 7:57:50 PM PDT by jimfree (In 2012 Sarah Palin will continue to have more relevant quality executive experience than B. Obama.)
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To: Publius772000

I am absolutely not a Romney fan. I think of him as being to McCain like. And he’s to pretty. Everything is so perfect from his teeth to his hair. Don’t trust a man like that.


26 posted on 04/10/2010 7:59:53 PM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: NormsRevenge

The mousy little Fox reporter said that Mitt’s “people” were handing out some type of gifts to everybody. I wonder what they were.


27 posted on 04/10/2010 8:05:48 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby ( I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did. Yogi Berra)
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To: Publius772000

Anybody have that Romney abortion video?


28 posted on 04/10/2010 8:16:33 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (November can't come soon enough!)
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To: abigailsmybaby

The mousy little Fox reporter said that Mitt’s “people” were handing out some type of gifts to everybody. I wonder what they were.

Get out of ObamaCare passes? ;-]


29 posted on 04/10/2010 8:57:25 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: jimfree

a review of who he backed historically and whi he will back when it comes to recent California races is enough for me.


30 posted on 04/10/2010 8:59:01 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: Brimack34

All of Hot Air hates Palin and loves Rinos. I am sure there are others like that. But not here.

Why Michele Malkin sold it?


31 posted on 04/10/2010 8:59:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: Publius772000

“4) he will (these days) pimp his book”

No kidding? I was wondering if he’d ever get around to that. He spends so much time on incisive reviews of the affairs of the day and cogent, cutting interviews that take on and eviscerate leftism...well, I can’t imagine he’d seriously take the time out to promote his own personal business.

/sarcasm

I can’t believe anyone even bothers with the pretense that he has a show somewhere, on radio or tv. It’s purely an infomercial every time I tune in.


32 posted on 04/10/2010 9:19:51 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (When Republicans don't vote conservative, conservatives don't vote Republican.)
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To: snowrip

This is the dilemma I’m facing now. I’ll campaign against him in the primaries, because he’s not a conservative, regardless of how he has tried to refashion himself, but there is a better than average chance that he could be the nominee. I just don’t think I could vote for him. And he might not even carry the South as the Republican nominee, which would be telling. His performance in 2008 in the South was very telling, I think. I mean, Mike Huckabee won Georgia... I just don’t see Romney having any feasible chance of winning the presidency if nominated. I’m a little surprised Beck hasn’t outed him as a progessive, but I think the LDS thing holds him back on ol’ Mitt.


33 posted on 04/10/2010 9:24:54 PM PDT by Publius772000 (http://theconstitutionalalamo.com)
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To: NormsRevenge

I’ve had the same feeling myself... I like that Beck has very few politicians on his program.


34 posted on 04/10/2010 9:27:33 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: LibertarianInExile

I don’t listen much anymore, unless it happens to be the only thing on at the moment. It’s frustrating that someone with such a reach and voice lacks the mental dexterity to destroy leftist dogma. He gets so many calls that he can’t deal with. And his three methods of winning an argument are to (again with the list... sorry): a) make his point and then start repeating the word “Checkmate,” regardless of whether his point should have effectively ended the argument; b) tell his life story, his urban childhood, his grandparents’ persecution as Irish immigrants, his work at radio stations for pennies a day, or some other sob story; or c) explain that he has a “hard break” coming up and he can’t discuss it further. I’m still not quite sure why he’s the 2nd most listened to show, other than he’s apparently really good at selling things on air.


35 posted on 04/10/2010 9:36:46 PM PDT by Publius772000 (http://theconstitutionalalamo.com)
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To: Publius772000

Romney’s tie with Ron Paul is certainly a plus for Romney, as well as Paul. These straw polls have always been open to the kind of things that Romney and Paul did. Palin didn’t do those things, perfectly legal, perfectly ethical, which caused the Romney - Paul tie. Why not? There was no sham, that’s how it’s done and has always been done. The political organization uses the tools at its disposal to try to achieve a desired result. Romney has a personal war chest. Paul has a stream of money coming in through Campaign For Liberty, money left over from 2008, and a whole bunch of dedicated volunteers.

Palin should have a lot, she should’ve won this.

She has how many facebook friends, or whatever they’re called. 1,000,000 or more? Weren’t we talking 6 or 12 months ago about how Palin would write one thing on her facebook page and everyone would have to respond to it?
She had amazing communications ability and a ton of people paying attention to her, remember all that? She can’t write one single facebook article and simply say “come to New Orleans and vote for me. I’ll be there speaking. It’s important.” Shouldn’t there be thousands of people doing that? Shouldn’t there be more than 300-400 people there for Palin? I mean, part of the appeal of Palin is that she is supposed to have this massive following, draw huge crowds, etc. And she gets 300-400. She’s supposed to be winning these things right now. Ron Paul is doing better than Romney. He tied Romney here, and beat Romney soundly at CPAC. Palin came in no better than 3rd at either. Where are her people? They said Palin was saving it for SRLC, well where were her people?

I should add that people should be asking questions about what Newt might’ve done to game the system as well. Newt is not anywhere near Palin - how’d he get so many votes?
I wouldn’t be surprised to hear Newt bought tickets as well.

And Huckabee has dropped like a stone.


36 posted on 04/10/2010 10:43:58 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Bigtigermike

That should be the headline!!!

Not

Person who we thought was popular actually isn’t

or

Frontrunner keeps on finishing Third.

I like Ron Paul the best, but Palin is a pretty close 2nd, and I don’t really like any of the others at all. Palin really can’t afford to come in 3rd in these things. She’s supposed to be popular. She should be able to get 500
people to New Orleans to vote for her.

Listen, one of the reasons a lot of us here like Palin is that she’s supposedly popular. We like her, and other people do too (we assume). There is an excitement around her, and that causes large crowds, high tv ratings, etc.
It should also cause at least 500 people. Her support at this stage could be called a mile wide and an inch deep. People will watch her on tv. People will go to a free Sarah Palin show. The same thing is true about Lady GaGa. They buy Lady GaGa records and Sarah Palin books at the mall. Lady GaGa will not be our next President.

Sarah Palin wouldn’t be chosen to be the Republican Nominee because of her great track record of experience in foreign policy. Or any experience of any kind.

Sarah Palin wouldn’t be chosen for the Nomination because Republican Primary voters were completely confident that Sarah Palin’s level of intelligence and overall competence
was unassailable by potentially undecided voters

Sarah Palin would be chosen for the Nomination because Sarah Palin is exciting, we like her, she has star quality, and we think that she might share our political beliefs, but we’re not sure yet.

If we like her because of who she is, or who we think she is, she better prove her case that she is what we think she is. Be popular - win straw polls.

We’re not saying with Sarah Palin - let’s pick a dull moderate so not to potentially offend dull moderates who are potentially swing voters.

We’re saying - we know she has negatives but we don’t care because her plusses are so huge. It’s time for Sarah Palin to show those huge plusses.

People should also try to figure out if Newt gamed the system.


37 posted on 04/10/2010 11:12:26 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: NormsRevenge

500 TICKETS @ $119. EACH = $59,000 DIVIDED BY 439 VOTES.


38 posted on 04/10/2010 11:14:17 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: NormsRevenge

WAIT....LOL... $59,500.


39 posted on 04/10/2010 11:15:38 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: truthfreedom; chemicalman; Bigtigermike

chemicalman was there to see and hear Sarah Palin.

According to what chemicalman told me, the voting that day was supposed to start at 10:00am but it was delayed until 2:00PM.

I can well imagine that several people in the packed ballroom to see Sarah didn’t have the opportunity to vote.


40 posted on 04/10/2010 11:22:10 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: onyx

I like to hear that. I don’t like to hear that Palin is about as popular as Gingrich and less than Romney.

She should have people rounding up those votes. Or she should have put herself in a better time slot. It’s good to hear that it’s more of an organizational problem with Palin than one where there was a lack of warm bodies.


41 posted on 04/10/2010 11:33:25 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: SmokingJoe

We might have had an interesting race if we’d had Frist leading the ticket. It’s hard to say.


42 posted on 04/10/2010 11:34:44 PM PDT by WillRain ("Might have been the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one.")
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To: onyx
Ronald Reagan never won his straw poll, but swept up in the primaries.

Look at the two questions in the straw poll:

If the primary election for president were held today, for whom would you vote? Please check the box by the candidate of your choice.

Newt Gingrich 18%
Mike Huckabee 4%
Gary Johnson 1%
Sarah Palin 18%
Ron Paul 24% (438 votes)
Tim Pawlenty 3%
Mike Pence 3%
Mitt Romney 24% (439 votes)
Rick Santorum 2%

2. Who would be your second choice in the Republican Primary Election for president?

Newt Gingrich 19%
Mike Huckabee 10%
Gary Johnson 6%
Sarah Palin 18%
Ron Paul 5%
Tim Pawlenty 6%
Mike Pence 8%
Mitt Romney 13%
Rick Santorum 7%

Sarah has a strong second in the second choices with Newt even, or slightly better. Mitt and Ron barely getting anything here as second choice.
Am I missing something here, or did the Rombots and Paulites missed the second question in the poll?

I think the strong showing as 1st choice and weak showing as 2nd choice indicates vote buying.
Whatcha think?

43 posted on 04/11/2010 12:08:21 AM PDT by chemicalman (Everyone is investing in gold. I'm investing in lead.)
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To: chemicalman

Oh yes! Very telling! The bought votes did as they were told!

They voted once and didn’t vote in the second part.


44 posted on 04/11/2010 12:11:06 AM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: abigailsmybaby

Buttons, piggybanks, Mitt’s books (signed and unsigned for your email), bumperstickers, etc.


45 posted on 04/11/2010 12:12:19 AM PDT by chemicalman (Everyone is investing in gold. I'm investing in lead.)
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To: truthfreedom

I think her time slot was all right.

She didn’t have control over the delay or trouble with the vote.


46 posted on 04/11/2010 12:12:33 AM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: chemicalman; truthfreedom

Earlier in this thread, truthfreedom asked whether Newt did anything to game the vote?


47 posted on 04/11/2010 12:14:50 AM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: onyx; truthfreedom
I haven't seen anything at the convention that Newt was giving away. I didn't see anyone with Newt stickers or buttons.

Newt spoke on Thursday and I wasn't there. So the crowd for his speech may have picked up some goodies. Some people I talked to that attended the day before said Newt gave a great speech (I didn't see it, have to look online) and that energy may have carried over to the straw poll.

48 posted on 04/11/2010 12:37:14 AM PDT by chemicalman (Everyone is investing in gold. I'm investing in lead.)
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To: chemicalman

Thanks. I am willing to accept that. Newt likely gave his audience a book he’s written or maybe a video I think that might be normal for most of the speakers and I think it’s nice to receive a little something.


49 posted on 04/11/2010 12:40:59 AM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: chemicalman

He is from the South, too, so that might be a factor. Some of the attendees might be very familiar with him. They might know him personally and like him.


50 posted on 04/11/2010 12:48:50 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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