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Dhimmitude In Obamacare
Stormbringer [Sean Linnane blogspot] ^ | 4/11/10 | rae4palin

Posted on 04/11/2010 3:47:15 PM PDT by rae4palin

Muslims get a pass on the First Amendment to the US Constitution - "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" -

Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam.

The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States. Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam considers insurance to be "gambling", "risk-taking" and "usury" and is thus banned.

Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this. How convenient. So I, Ann Barnhardt, a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivables, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax.

Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health needs paid for by the de-facto government insurance. Non-Muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize Muslims. Period. This is Dhimmitude.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: bhofascism; bhohealthcare; bhoislamism; crushislam; democrats; dhimmicrats; dhimmitude; healthcare; islam; obamacare; socialisthealthcare; stormbringer
Learn the terms Dhimmitude and Taqiyya
1 posted on 04/11/2010 3:47:15 PM PDT by rae4palin
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To: rae4palin

FUBO


2 posted on 04/11/2010 3:49:32 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: rae4palin

And no Republican thought this important enough to mention during the months leading up to the passage of The Monstrosity?

Maybe because it was buried to deep...

So now can we expect a rising cry of rebellion on this issue from the other side of the aisle?

When?

Tomorrow?

Starting tomorrow morning?

If not then, when?


3 posted on 04/11/2010 3:57:10 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: rae4palin

On that principle alone Catholics should be able to opt out too because of the coverage of abortion.


4 posted on 04/11/2010 4:03:06 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: rae4palin

The content is irrelevant. Any federal version of health care is unconstitutional since Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care. The people are not bound by an unconstitutional act. This is the point people need to impress on their Congress critters!


5 posted on 04/11/2010 4:06:18 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: rae4palin

mm


6 posted on 04/11/2010 4:07:40 PM PDT by phockthis
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To: Man50D

This POS of a bill needs to be trashed and so does every Dimwit who voted for it.

Dick Morris said the Dims could possibly lose 150 seats in November. If so, that should be enough to stop this kind of crap.


7 posted on 04/11/2010 4:18:12 PM PDT by Former MSM Viewer
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To: samtheman
It wasn't because they didn't think it was important, it was buried in a bill that no one was given time to read. Remember Pelosi’s comment about passing the bill so we could find out what was in it?
8 posted on 04/11/2010 4:26:04 PM PDT by wbarmy (I decided to be a sheepdog when I saw what happens to sheep.)
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To: samtheman
So now can we expect a rising cry of rebellion on this issue from the other side of the aisle?

(Obama is one big lie - a real fraud) so who will stop the imposter....not this congress or senate...maybe the people will.

9 posted on 04/11/2010 4:41:12 PM PDT by yoe
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To: wbarmy

Ok, so now they know. So we can expect an outcry to begin... when? (In your opinion.)


10 posted on 04/11/2010 5:33:41 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: rae4palin

I believe that muslims, like communists, are on their best behavior when they are afraid.


11 posted on 04/11/2010 5:48:53 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: rae4palin
Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured.

I guess I'd be more convinced if the author could cite the exact part of the law that says this.

12 posted on 04/11/2010 6:03:17 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: rae4palin

and jizya which applies here.


13 posted on 04/11/2010 9:14:45 PM PDT by willyd (Reducing Taxes Reduces our Carbon Footprint)
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To: Man50D

But do the Dems even BOTHER to read the Constitution?


14 posted on 04/12/2010 5:02:53 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: Biggirl
But do the Dems even BOTHER to read the Constitution?

No, for them it's just a serving suggestion.
15 posted on 04/12/2010 5:04:02 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Biggirl
But do the Dems even BOTHER to read the Constitution?

They do but to them it is a "living breathing document". Socialist translation: They change or ignore it to suit their socialist agenda.
16 posted on 04/12/2010 5:06:04 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: samtheman

They are crying out, but the MSM is very efficient at burying the story on page 39 beside the obituaries. While putting racist tea party members on the first page, above the fold.


17 posted on 04/12/2010 3:48:40 PM PDT by wbarmy (I decided to be a sheepdog when I saw what happens to sheep.)
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To: LucyT; rxsid; BP2; dynachrome

ping


18 posted on 04/14/2010 7:37:34 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off..)
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To: wagglebee

ping


19 posted on 04/14/2010 7:38:32 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off..)
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To: rae4palin

bttt


20 posted on 04/14/2010 7:42:00 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off..)
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To: rae4palin
PERSONAL LETTER FROM SENATOR RICHARD LUGAR'S HEALTH CARE POLICY AID.

Some weeks ago, after reading this post about "dhimmitude" in Obamacare, I wrote to Senator Richard Lugars office about this issue. I also requested procedures for applying for exemption on the basis of my religious convictions.

I do not like the softness of Richard Lugar's positions on many issues. But he did firmly oppose Obamacare, and he does seem to be paying close attention us on this matter.

This is the first personal reply I have ever received from a senatorial office, and it indicates that my letter original letter to Senator Lugar was read and discussed by the Senator to his staff.

I hope all who have read this post will read this letter from Senator Lugar's health care policy aid.

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[Salutation]

I am Senator Lugar’s health care policy aid. The Senator shared with me your email and questions regarding the religious conscience exemption to the individual mandate to purchase/obtain health insurance that was included in the health care bill. Incidentally, as you may know, Senator Lugar did not support passage of this legislation.

I attempted to reach you by phone but understand you may be abroad and that email is a better way to reach you. I am happy to discuss this issue telephonically if you would prefer. I can be reached at (202) 224-4814.

In what I hope may answer your questions: The bill does not expressly mention any specific groups as exempt. The language mirrors provisions in existing law for such programs as Social Security and Medicare. My understand, though I am not a layer, is that these clauses have arisen as a response from court challenges from Amish communities and others over the years who did not want to pay into or receive benefits from these public programs.

I’m not sure where this “dhimmitude” rumor started, but that phrase is NOT in the bill. Again, the bill does NOT mention members of any specific religious faith or group as exempt but rather refers to the existing tax code.

Ultimately, as stated in the legislative text, implementation of this provision will be left up to the Secretary of Health and Human Services. The Senator has heard similar concerns from other constituents, and we have contacted HHS to inquire if and when they will issue guidance on who would qualify for an exemption and how they would make such an application. Because the so-called individual mandate does not come into effect until 2014, guidance has not been developed. It will likely be quite some time before the agency promulgates the rules (through the public rulemaking process) on the topic.

It is certainly an issue we will follow closely. Again, I am happy to try to answer any questions you may have. I prefer phone, but understand email may be a far more convenient option for you.

Kind Regards,

Alex

Alexander R. Currie
Office of Senator Richard Lugar
phone: (202) 224-4814 fax: (202) 228-0360
http://www.lugar.senate.gov/

21 posted on 07/08/2010 5:50:25 PM PDT by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: rae4palin

Dhimmitude -(what does it mean) Obama used it in the health care bill...

Now Ain’t this something!?

Dhimmitude- I had never heard the word until now-—Type it into Google and start reading. Pretty interesting. It’s on page 107 of the healthcare bill. I looked this up on Google and yep, it exists! It is a REAL word. Amish are also excluded. I think I could become Amish a whole lot easier than Muslim.

Word of the Day: Dhimmitude

Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to islam.

The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia muslim diktat in the United States . Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam considers insurance to be “gambling”, “risk-taking” and “usury” and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this.

How convenient. So I, Ann Barnhardt, a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivables, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health needs paid for by the de facto government insurance. Non-muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize muslims. Period. This is Dhimmitude.

Dhimmitude serves two purposes: it enriches the muslim masters AND serves to drive conversions to islam. In this case, the incentive to convert to islam will be taken up by those in the inner-cities as well as the godless Generation X, Y and Z types who have no moral anchor. If you don’t believe in Christ to begin with, it is no problem whatsoever to sell Him for 30 pieces of silver. “Sure, I’ll be a muslim if it means free health insurance and no taxes. Where do I sign, bro?”

I recommend sending this post to your contacts. This is desperately important and people need to know about it - quickly.


22 posted on 09/23/2010 11:53:57 AM PDT by IC Ken
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To: yoe

There are a LOT of reasons I have serious problems with Islam in the USA. Why? Read on & PLEASE!! CHECK THE LINKS!!!

There is a lot of talk about us tolerating Islam. This is what I think.

How about FIRST, as a show of good faith & fairness, Arabic countries allow Christian Churches & Jewish Synagogues be built in their countries. Put the NY Mosque on hold until at least one Christian church AND one Synagogue is built in every capitol or a major city in these countries. You could throw in Buddhist Temples & Catholic & Mormon Churches for a good faith measure. Let us see how tolerant THEY are for a while FIRST!!! It would be of great benefit for the Mosque builders if they & all ‘peaceful’ Muslims would denounce radical Islamists, terrorism & Shari Law.

Then there is the problem we are having in the US with honor killings by Islamic followers.

http://tinyurl.com/2eflxxm

http://tinyurl.com/2a5amh8

National Geographic or some one had an expose, Fri.. 8-6-’10. Then there was they guy who wanted to behead his wife. How about Shari Law? You don’t think that is in the agenda of Muslims? It has to be if it is a true part of their religion & they are allowed to establish Mosques here. Doesn’t the concept of honor killings come, along with burkas, women as 2nd class citizens, e...&&
The EU is waking up! Good for France!!

I have serious problems with Islam in the USA. Why? Read on & check the links.

There is a lot of talk about us tolerating Islam. This is what I think.

How about FIRST, as a show of good faith & fairness, Arabic countries allow Christian Churches & Jewish Synagogues be built in their countries. Put the NY Mosque on hold until at least one Christian church AND one Synagogue is built in every capitol or a major city in these countries. You could throw in Buddhist Temples & Catholic & Mormon Churches for a good faith measure. Let us see how tolerant THEY are for a while FIRST!!! It would be of great benefit for the Mosque builders if they & all ‘peaceful’ Muslims would denounce radical Islamists, terrorism & Shari Law.

Then there is the problem we are having in the US with honor killings by Islamic followers.

http://tinyurl.com/2eflxxm

http://tinyurl.com/2a5amh8

Here is some VITAL IFO about Islam: I DO MEAN VITAL!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a60A3mw2XgQ

National Geographic or some one had an expose, Fri.. 8-6-’10. Then there was they guy who wanted to behead his wife. How about Shari Law? You don’t think that is in the agenda of Muslims? It has to be if it is a true part of their religion & they are allowed to establish Mosques here. Doesn’t the concept of honor killings come, along with burkas, women as 2nd class citizens, execution of homosexuals & so on, from Shari Law?

http://tinyurl.com/3h1s

http://tinyurl.com/233mj6\

jhttp://tinyurl.com/ydfatxo

Feisal Abdul Rauf would establish sharia law. Slowly of course. Look up Stealth gihad. That is what is going on in the US.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/

http://www.americanthinker.co...

Any thoughts on SLEEPER CELLS in some or all the Mosques in the USA?

Then there is the little published concept of stealth jihad in the USA.

http://tinyurl.com/2vu45n7

Here is more:

http://www.newswithviews.com/...

http://www.newswithviews.com/...

http://www.newswithviews.com/...

http://www.newswithviews.com/...

http://findarticles.com/p/art...

That should be enough to get you started. Don’t fall for the BS & don’t expect me to!!!, Islam is a VERY SERIOUS THREAT!!!

http://tinyurl.com/3h1s

http://tinyurl.com/233mj6\

jhttp://tinyurl.com/ydfatxo

SamFox


23 posted on 09/24/2010 2:17:54 PM PDT by SamFox (SamFox)
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To: Ouderkirk

Or when they are in stealth jihad mode. That’s what they are doing in the USA IMO.

SamFox


24 posted on 09/24/2010 2:20:03 PM PDT by SamFox (SamFox)
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To: chris_bdba

Not only Catholics, but also conservative Protestants as well. Nazarenes do not believe in abortion. There are many other conservative Protestant groups who do not approve of abortion, so on that basis should be exempt from the health law.


25 posted on 09/24/2010 9:40:52 PM PDT by lifsgrt (It is great!!!!!)
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To: Ouderkirk

You are correct. It is not that they are afraid though. When they are not in power they practice Dhimmitude. They play the good guy till they have power. Also, From what I have researched, one may lie in Islam in order to protect the religion of Islam, to protect himself from harm or his land, or to keep peace within his family and society. The Prophet said, “War is deceit” - Sahih Al-Burkhari Vol 4, Book 52, Hadith 269. It really comes down to this...if you are not an Muslim then you are an infidel, thus, they are allowed to lie to you because they are at war with you. You study this and you will see the Truth. Study it from all opinions and make an educated conclusion. Good Luck.


26 posted on 10/15/2010 8:02:13 PM PDT by Mia Artisme
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To: IC Ken

I cannot find the word Dhimmitude in the bill. This whole thing seems to be bogus. Everyone should relax.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/muslims_exempt_health_insurance_mandate.htm


27 posted on 11/09/2010 5:16:58 PM PST by bigfella1998
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To: bigfella1998

They did not use the specific word “dhimmitude” in the healthcare bill, but if you understand the definition of the word, it’s quite obviously in the bill. Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam.

A paragraph on page 107 of the legislation provides for individual religious exemptions, though the language is non-specific with regard to particular faiths:

(5) EXEMPTIONS FROM INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.—In the case of an individual who is seeking an exemption certificate under section 1311(d)(4)(H) from any requirement or penalty imposed by section 5000A, the following information [is required]:
(A) In the case of an individual seeking exemption based on the individual’s status as a member of an exempt religious sect or division, as a member of a health care sharing ministry, as an Indian, or as an individual eligible for a hardship exemption, such information as the Secretary shall prescribe.

Similarly, on page 128:

“(A) RELIGIOUS CONSCIENCE EXEMPTION.—Such term [i.e., “applicable individual”] shall not include any individual for any month if such individual has in effect an exemption under section 1311(d)(4)(H) of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act which certifies that such individual is a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof described in section 1402(g)(1) and an adherent of established tenets or teachings of such sect or division as described in such section.


28 posted on 02/01/2011 8:36:26 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: rae4palin

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/05/dhimmitude-and-the-muslim-exemption/

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/muslims_exempt_health_insurance_mandate.htm


29 posted on 04/19/2011 8:24:25 PM PDT by mobuscon (Let's look into this further before we lose credibility.)
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