Skip to comments.Why do you hate church?
Posted on 04/12/2010 11:11:31 AM PDT by Patriot1259
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A Detroit area pastor is taking a different approach in trying to get more people to show up for church services. If you look at Jesus, he hung out with tax collectors, prostitutes, drunks, people who hated religion, and heard their stories.We figured we should do the same, says Chris Lambert, Pastor of Ekklisia Church.
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I can’t go along with soliciting insults of Christ’s bride.
Sounds like he needs to move to DC and work the Capitol and White House.
I don’t go to Church cause you do not teach the pure Gospel.
I love attending worship services. Really, it is the highlight of my week.
And the Master changed every single one that He 'hung out' with. He preached repentence and salvation. Not once did He condone or overlook the sin, He addressed it and gave the sinner the only path to the Father. His only admonishment was: "Go forth, and sin no more."
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This is another goofey idea in trying to “get people to church.” These people like to point to Jesus as an example, but they are very selective in the things in which they appropriate. Did Jesus ever say to people, “Why do you hate the Temple?” or “Why do you hate Judaism?” Jesus did not use gimmicks, nor did his disciples. If you have to entice people to church, you are not following the examples of Jesus.
MY church is a social club for married people. So I stay away.
I love how Jesus lumped tax collectors with the rest of that group. Says what he thought about that 'profession'.
Very few do, unfortunately.
Great point, rjs. I’ve finally caught on to this trick that people use when they say Jesus hung out with all the wrong people in all the wrong places, that he was not judgmental but accepting, blah, blah, blah. My adult daughter has a Christian friend who tells my daughter that she is being “judgmental” whenever my daughter stands firm on her own convictions about an issue or when she does not condone certain behaviors. Jesus ALWAYS required CHANGE and NEVER allowed people to stay as they were. He himself claimed that the gospel is an “offense.” We should be as loving and merciful as the day is long, but in the end, there is only one truth, and He is it.
Those tax collectors were a very different breed than what we know today.
Rome mandated a certain amount be collected--but only told the collectors how much they expected. The tax collectors would go around collecting as much as they could, and what extra they collected (above what Rome wanted), they got to keep.
That's how they made their living. Today, it's just following the law that Congress makes.
I don’t “hate” going to church, but it would be nice if the Pastor had ever read the Bible rather than purchase sermons.
I see nothing wrong with this statement in itself.
“Religion” can mean anything. Jeremiah Wright has “religion”. The Pharisees had “religion”.
We are not to act as if we are the arbiter of someone's fate, merely that we present God's answer as spelled out in His Word.
I appreciate your thoughts on this thread. Christian snobbery is disgusting these days, especially on FR.
Mine is the opposite. Truly biblical preaching from a well-prepared pastor, and (as far as I know) true bible-believing Christians around me.
We are not a "feel-good" church. Nor are we a prosperity church. We learn directly from the Word.
Very uplifting to me, and I have experienced a lot of personal growth since attending.
I don’t particularly care for church but here is a thot. My father was a minister (God rest his soul) and when I used to complain about all the hypocrites and liars and gossipy people in church he would always say that you would get that in most any group-religious or otherwise. Church is not for perfect people. OTOH, if churches would do what churches are supposed to do - ya know like pray, study the bible and sing hymns and PREACH THE WORD and not this nonsense devotional shallow pablam (sp?) stuff then maybe people would come. Really gets my ire up.
Tax Collecting was a far different profession in Christ’s day and generally involved stealing everything from everyone in a particular village or town....oh wait...not that different at all.