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About that birth certificate (which Obama refuses to produce)
Hillbuzz ^ | 04/25/10 | Hillbuzz

Posted on 04/25/2010 12:35:44 PM PDT by American Dream 246

One of the most ingenious things the Obama campaign did in 2008 was to nullify all questions about why he refused to produce his birth certificate, by stoking the “birther” conspiracy that he was not born in the United States and, thus, painting anyone who talked about his birth certificate as insane.

It’s classic magic trick distraction.

Whenever anyone questions why the current President of the United States refuses to release his original birth certificate, his followers immediately launch into an Alinsky-based attack on the person who brought the matter up — attacking that person as a “birther”.

This is a remarkably effective trick, because no one ever sees the REAL reason he does not want his birth certificate released. The “birther” screaming and yelling keeps attention focused away from what his original birth certificate would reveal about his father, Barack Hussein Obama Sr.

In 1961, when Obama was indeed born in Hawaii, his father would have most likely be listed as “Arab”, not black, on his birth certificate. Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was only 1/4 black, and identified himself as a Kenyan Arab. According to how the British would have recorded him in their documents back then, BHO Sr. would have been “Arab”.

Furthermore, if Hawaii’s birth certificates in 1961 were like our own birth certificates from Ohio, Texas, Pennsylvania, and New York in the 1970s, then Obama’s official and original birth certificate would have been handwritten, with the religion of his parents recorded under their names. That’s what all of our birth certificates say, anyway. ”Catholic” is listed under most of our mothers’ and fathers’ names, with “Baptist” and “Episcopalian” on two of those slots.

We’ve always believed the reason Obama does not produce his birth certificate is because his father is listed as “Arab” and “Muslim” on that form, which is what he would have been recorded as in 1961 in Hawaii.

That cuts against the narrative that Obama rode to the White House, which he affirmed in his 2010 census — which is that he is black. This is how he has chosen to self-identify, and it’s the tool he used to advance himself so fast through the Democrat Party. He even had William Ayers write two books all about his racial grievances.

None of that flies if the public sees that his father was an “Arab” “Muslim”, as recorded on that birth certificate.

The public would have a very bad reaction to this, and would look upon the Lightbringer as a fraud and liar.

The whole White House of cards would collapse. Re-election 2012 would be a non-starter.

Hence, the White House and every Democrat in office is doing everything it can to make sure Obama’s original birth certificate never sees the light of day.

We believe if efforts in Arizona, Georgia, and Oklahoma succeed and they, and other states, pass legislation requiring presidential candidates to produce their original birth certificates to appear on the 2012 ballot, there will be some sort of fire or other accident at the Hall of Records in Honolulu. Expect a discovery relative to that which announces Obama’s original birth certificate, on file in Hawaii, was destroyed in that fire or other mysterious accident (beneficial to the White House). Because Obama moved around so much as a child, and because his mother and grandmother are now dead, the White House will announce they are unable to locate his familial copies of his original birth certificate. Thus, the recently computer generated “Certificate of Live Birth” produced by Obama will be the only document available for public inspection.

Obama’s narrative depends on his father being a black atheist from Kenya…a “goat herder”.

The reason the birth certificate will never see the light of day is because it reveals his father to be an “Arab” “Muslim”, and damn proud of it.

What’s happened here is that Obama promoted a lie about who his father really was — and he did this to get elected to high office. Now in that office, he needs to do everything possible to protect and eternally perpetuate that lie, lest he lose it all.

And the main strategy for protecting the lie is to demonize anyone asking questions about it — which is the Alinsky Method. Attack anyone asking where the birth certificate is and why it won’t be produced, call them “birthers”, and paint them as crazy…so that no one ever stops to look at the REAL reason the White House won’t produce a simple document and end all controversy.

Because they do not want you to see that Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was an “Arab” “Muslim”, according to that document.


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1 posted on 04/25/2010 12:35:44 PM PDT by American Dream 246
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To: American Dream 246
One of the most ingenious things the Obama campaign did in 2008 was to nullify all questions about why he refused to produce his birth certificate, by stoking the “birther” conspiracy that he was not born in the United States and, thus, painting anyone who talked about his birth certificate as insane.

The fact that he was born in Kenya is the only thing that could disqualify him.

All the other stuff won't matter.

2 posted on 04/25/2010 12:41:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (FYBO: Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: American Dream 246

Until I see a REAL BRITH CERIFICATE, I will believe he was born in Kenya.....period....and of COURSE his father was a Muslim!!


3 posted on 04/25/2010 12:41:16 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: American Dream 246
Obama’s official and original birth certificate would have been handwritten, with the religion of his parents recorded under their names.

Birth certificates don't list a religion.

4 posted on 04/25/2010 12:42:31 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: American Dream 246

Maybe Obama can re-title his book to “LIES from my father”.


5 posted on 04/25/2010 12:43:10 PM PDT by Bullish (Light skinned with no negro dialect (unless I want one))
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To: American Dream 246

sounds good to me.....actually sounds sane


6 posted on 04/25/2010 12:45:09 PM PDT by Michigan Bowhunter
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To: Kleon

I am thinking some did, but it still will not matter. He is still too big to fail.


7 posted on 04/25/2010 12:48:28 PM PDT by GILTN1stborn
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To: American Dream 246

” ... his father would have most likely be listed as “Arab”, not black, on his birth certificate ...”

This may be a matter of definition, that once again could be resolved by referencing this mysterious birth certificate, but you seem to take the position that someone cannot be both Arab and black.
I recall seeing some photos of Barry’s/Obama’s (whateverhisnameis) peripatetic sire and he was as black as a woodchuck’s a**whole.


8 posted on 04/25/2010 12:50:23 PM PDT by tumblindice (This space for rent)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A lot of people think that Obama WAS born in the US, but there was something on that birth certificate so deadly he does not want it out.

Unqualified Obama rode the “half-black” meme into the WH. Arab instead of black would cause a lot of political damage.

BTW, isn’t there some sentence in one of his books that he was shocked on finding his birth certificate? Remember his mother loathed her own country, race and religion. Anything could be on there.


9 posted on 04/25/2010 12:51:02 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: American Dream 246

We all know his father was Kenyan making him ineligible. We all know the usurper thinks the muslim call for prayer is the most beautiful sound in the world and can say it perfectly. We all know he bows down at every opportunity to muslims and Arabs. We all know he’s a liar. We all know he’s wasting taxpayer money on the cover up. None of this is a secret.


10 posted on 04/25/2010 12:52:51 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I think it would. If obama portrayed himself as African American and he is not, I think that would matter quite a lot.


11 posted on 04/25/2010 12:53:08 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I beg to differ. The fact that he was born a British Subject is what disqualifies him, PERIOD.

It doesn’t matter if he were born in the WHITE HOUSE, his status as a British Subject via his father at birth makes him at the LEAST a Dual Citizen (if Stanley Ann really was legally able to transfer US citizenship, which is in doubt acc. to the laws in 1961 Hawaii). Therefore Obama is NOT a Natural Born Citizen, and he is NOT Constitutionally eligible to hold the elected position of President of the United States.

However, I personally think it’s Patrick Fitzgerald’s Blagojevich trial that will lead to the President’s impeachment. According to the documents filed it does appear that Obama lied to FBI investigators at least twice — a felony if true. The hearings SHOULD be starting already, but perhaps they will soon enough.

THEN, we MIGHT see addressing of this issue.


12 posted on 04/25/2010 12:53:38 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I disagree. Muslim, Arab, White, different father would all have an effect.


13 posted on 04/25/2010 12:54:54 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: American Dream 246

The ‘Birther’ distraction is also to muudy the fact that even if born in Hawaii, Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen.


14 posted on 04/25/2010 12:56:46 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: American Dream 246
If what the author says is true and Zero's father was only 1/4 black, then the presence or absence of a birth certificate doesn't change that fact, and doesn't change Zero's heritage.

If it mattered to the American People, he could be called the first Arab American president now.

The fact of the matter is that we have no LAWS requiring how to classify the race of individuals, so Zero is free to call himself an African American.

15 posted on 04/25/2010 12:57:05 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Ann Archy

“....and of COURSE his father was a Muslim!!”

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That his father was a Muslim is irrelevant — nowhere does it say that the POTUS has to be Christian. But the fact that his father was NOT A US CITIZEN is information that is very much relevant. It means that 0 cannot be a natural born US citizen.


16 posted on 04/25/2010 12:58:14 PM PDT by 353FMG (What can Islam possibly contribute to America other than its destruction?)
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To: American Dream 246
Besides, with family photos like this around, not many would actually buy that Zero Sr. was "Arab."


17 posted on 04/25/2010 12:58:56 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Ann Archy

What I find much more plausible is that Barack is not the child of Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr.

Grandpa Dunham used to hang out in the bar with Frank Marshall Davis while they had open sex orgies.

One of the underage girls from the bar got pregnant, was sent to Indonesia or Kenya to give birth. Then Annie brought the child back to Hawaii. Her parents put a ‘birth’ announcement in the local newspapers. She also married Obama Sr. to give the child ‘a father’, on paper.

Then, Annie left the kid with the Grandparents to raise ‘as their own child’. (it was half true anyway)

Annie then went on her travels about the world, and met/married Soetoro.


18 posted on 04/25/2010 1:02:08 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: American Dream 246

Since Hillbuzz are supporters of Hillary, and Hillary supporters got royally screwed by Barry, I’m always interested in their insight.


19 posted on 04/25/2010 1:02:22 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: tumblindice
This may be a matter of definition, that once again could be resolved by referencing this mysterious birth certificate, but you seem to take the position that someone cannot be both Arab and black.

There are no black Arabs. Arabs are semitic, like Jews.

20 posted on 04/25/2010 1:03:00 PM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: UCANSEE2

That’s one of the scenarios that I think is plausible. Barry is the son of his “gramps”. He has the Dunham chin.


21 posted on 04/25/2010 1:03:20 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: Ann Archy
Grandpa with 'his child'.


22 posted on 04/25/2010 1:03:54 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: tumblindice

Laughing so hard my eyes are tearing. Thanks for the visual.


23 posted on 04/25/2010 1:05:15 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: American Dream 246
"....his father would have most likely be listed as “Arab”, not black, on his birth certificate. Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was only 1/4 black, and identified himself as a Kenyan Arab. According to how the British would have recorded him in their documents back then, BHO Sr. would have been “Arab”.

For what it's worth .... I've always thought Obama physically looked more Middle-Eastern than African.

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24 posted on 04/25/2010 1:05:17 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Yo-Yo
The fact of the matter is that we have no LAWS requiring how to classify the race of individuals

Makes one wonder how 'hate crimes' make it through a court of 'law'.

25 posted on 04/25/2010 1:06:49 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: American Dream 246
Furthermore, if Hawaii’s birth certificates in 1961 were like our own birth certificates from Ohio, Texas, Pennsylvania, and New York in the 1970s, then Obama’s official and original birth certificate would have been handwritten, with the religion of his parents recorded under their names.

Eh?

Mine is a 1970s Ohio BC and there is no religion listed anywhere. There is not even a space for it.

27 posted on 04/25/2010 1:09:17 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I miss the competent fiscal policy and flag waving patriotism of the Carter Administration)
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To: American Dream 246
...if that were true then the Kenyan Arabs would have supported and participated in the "Mau-Mau" uprising against their colonial masters...the British,,,

anyone know...?

28 posted on 04/25/2010 1:13:35 PM PDT by spokeshave (They'll get my false teeth when they pry them from my sister's cold, dead mouth)
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To: UCANSEE2

Makes one wonder how the concept of a ‘hate crime’ made it through the Supreme Court.


29 posted on 04/25/2010 1:16:06 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: machogirl

It would explain why he is able to hide the real birth certificate. There is none. The one is Hawaii was faked and inserted sometime just prior to the election. That is why the officials in Hawaii can’t find the ‘original long form’.

His father was ‘grandpa’ and his mother was an imported sex slave whose origin and nationality were unknown.

I don’t blame him. I wouldn’t want anyone else to know either. Poor kid, must have had a tough life. Maybe we could make it up to him by making him President.


30 posted on 04/25/2010 1:16:11 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: American Dream 246

This birther stuff makes you wonder why Bill and Hillary didn’t exploit it.

If he hasn’t destroyed himself and his party, it will be fun to see what he gets from his own side in 2012.

I’m not holding my breath, but the CIA and the military at the very least ought to provide some fun


31 posted on 04/25/2010 1:16:18 PM PDT by IncPen (HEY GORE -- GIVE BACK THE OSCAR! - GIVE BACK THE NOBEL! ANSWER THE HOAX!)
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To: American Dream 246
The reason the birth certificate will never see the light of day is because it reveals his father to be an “Arab” “Muslim”, and damn proud of it.

It does not state the religion of no one on Hawaiian birth certificates. But on Kenyan Birth Certificates?

32 posted on 04/25/2010 1:18:15 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: ElayneJ
If obama portrayed himself as African American and he is not,

If anything, Obama is more African American, than any of those in our country who claim they are African American.

He, according to the rumors, may actually have been born in Africa.

33 posted on 04/25/2010 1:18:28 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: zardozzed
The theory that makes the most sense to me is that Obama just sort of stumbled in to a situation where some of his critics make themselves look like crackpots, and now his people are doing the best to keep that pot boiling.

Obama did say, when first questioned about his BC, that the contents of it would only cause embarrassment to those who were attempting to reveal it.

34 posted on 04/25/2010 1:22:09 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: machogirl
He has the Dunham chin.

Yep. So does his sister..... I mean mother.


35 posted on 04/25/2010 1:25:11 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: machogirl
Since Hillbuzz are supporters of Hillary, and Hillary supporters got royally screwed by Barry, I’m always interested in their insight.

Not anymore - Hillbuzz are supporters of Sarah Palin. And strongly. Very fair and nice people there.
36 posted on 04/25/2010 1:31:11 PM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: UCANSEE2
Then Annie brought the child back to Hawaii.
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How would you convince a 17 year old girl to take this responsibility of raising another woman's baby?

And...Why would Obama Sr.( who has no blood relation to any of the parties involved in the conspiracy) be dumb enough to go along with the scam. ?

Sorry...This explanation is entirely to bizarre.

37 posted on 04/25/2010 1:39:44 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: American Dream 246

It says you’ve got to be logged in but gives no opportunity for a person to register as a site user. When I tried to log in it took me to my Wordpress login but told me it was an invalid username when I entered my login as Butterdezillion.

I wonder who CAN post there?

Well.... I guess if they want to remain ignorant that’s their choice.

If Obama has committed illegal online gambling then more power to them for going after him, but I wish they would realize that the HDOH has already confirmed that Obama’s posted COLB is a forgery.

See http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/


38 posted on 04/25/2010 1:41:38 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: IncPen
This birther stuff makes you wonder why Bill and Hillary didn’t exploit it.
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Obama and his Chicago thugs had plenty of dirt on Hillary as well. Think of it as mutually assured destruction.

But...Who had more skin in the game?

If Obama had been revealed as a non-natural born citizen, he would have apologized, said he was “Oh My bad! Didn't know!” and continued being Senator.

Hillary on the other hand would have been facing jail time and possible murder charges.

39 posted on 04/25/2010 1:43:54 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: machogirl

I too have thought so much.


40 posted on 04/25/2010 1:47:47 PM PDT by redshawk
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To: Right_in_Virginia

I agree. More middle-eastern than african.


41 posted on 04/25/2010 1:49:00 PM PDT by redshawk
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To: Yo-Yo
Yep! Look at that photo. There is no way anyone ( including me) would be convinced that Obama is not half-black!

The argument that the birth certificate shows Obama Sr. to be Arab is not nearly enough to explain why Obama has gone to such extremes to prevent its release.

Oh...And by the way,....As far as lawyering up, it is far more significant that Obama used Department of Justice resources and U.S. attorneys to prevent the release of these common documents.

Obama WASTED Department of Justice resources at a time when plots were being laid to blow planes out of the sky, and KILL soldiers on their bases and recruitment centers.

If Obama is misusing the Department of Justice attorneys in an effort to play the game of “gotcha” on the birthers, I don't think Americans will be amused.

42 posted on 04/25/2010 1:49:03 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: American Dream 246
"Look upon him as a liar???" He IS a liar! How would you look any differently upon this communist POS than that????

I only know ONE thing! My original birth certificate is in my hand at this moment. It's hand written and and has the Cook County Seal on it. Anyone that wants to see is welcome. Any one who wants to examine it and try to prove it's a fraud is more than welcome. And I'm just a lowly proletarian. Don't you think this mulatto POS should have to do the same as the guy he is subjecting to communist control??????????????????

43 posted on 04/25/2010 1:52:44 PM PDT by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: American Dream 246
Because they do not want you to see that Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was an “Arab” “Muslim”, according to that document.
This is a declaratory statement. This statement indicates that the author has seen the document and knows conclusively what is on the document.
It’s classic magic trick distraction.
This article, and that sentence in particular, are classic magic trick distraction as well.

If you have the document produce it to prove that you know what it says, not what you believe it says. Then you don't have to speculate what "they" do and don't want Americans to see.
Otherwise, you're just blowing smoke rings. (which are a shaped like an "O")

44 posted on 04/25/2010 1:55:06 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: American Dream 246
In 1961, when Obama was indeed born in Hawaii, his father would have most likely be listed as “Arab”, not black, on his birth certificate.

His father would have been listed by whatever racial description he used when he personally filled out the form himself or volunteered the information to whatever clerk was filling out the form for him.

Furthermore, if Hawaii’s birth certificates in 1961 were like our own birth certificates from Ohio, Texas, Pennsylvania, and New York in the 1970s, then Obama’s official and original birth certificate would have been handwritten, with the religion of his parents recorded under their names.

Why do people try and pimp this garbage when a simple google search will quickly show that no Hawaiian birth certificate (nor I suspect any other state) has a field for religion of parents?

45 posted on 04/25/2010 1:56:29 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: American Dream 246

Two interesting things on my Chicago Cook County BC. First, it asks if the mother was tested for Syphilis. Second, it asks if the birth was legitimate. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!


46 posted on 04/25/2010 1:58:45 PM PDT by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: American Dream 246

I wish someone, anyone who was born in Hawaii would spend the money to order their original birth certificate from the Hawaii Department of Health and that they would then post it on the internet, just to embarrass Obama into doing the same thing.
Thus far no one that I know of has done that and the state says that you can’t get the a copy of the original from them any longer. They say that since 2001 only the computerized Certification of Live Birth version is available.


47 posted on 04/25/2010 2:05:13 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: Doc Savage

Two interesting things on my Chicago Cook County BC. First, it asks if the mother was tested for Syphilis. Second, it asks if the birth was legitimate. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!


None of that information is asked for on a Hawaii Long Form birth certificate.
http://bp2.blogger.com/_Pa2xrvJ7xpA/SGhdwbdXc-I/AAAAAAAAACA/wzwObxc8fjw/s1600-h/scan0001.jpg

There is no additional information on a Hawaii Long form that relates to constitutional eligibility to be president.


48 posted on 04/25/2010 2:15:17 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

The ‘Birther’ distraction is also to muudy the fact that even if born in Hawaii, Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen.


That’s not what the Marion (IN) County Superior Court and the Indiana Court of Appeals said and the Indiana Supreme Court refused to hear the case on appeal.

“Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by[the US Supreme Court in the case of US versus] Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. Just as a person “born within the British dominions [was] a natural-born British subject” at the time of the framing of the U.S. Constitution, so too were those “born in the allegiance of the United States natural-born citizens.”—Indiana Court of Appeals, Ankeny et. al. v The Governor of Indiana, Mitch Daniels, Nov. 12, 2009
http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/11120903.ebb.pdf


49 posted on 04/25/2010 2:25:36 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: LibertyRocks

Exactly. The Obama campaign also added reference to his British citizenship online that first week of November, 2008. Why then but not sooner, but to attempt to hide the issue in plain site?


50 posted on 04/25/2010 2:37:36 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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