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About that birth certificate (which Obama refuses to produce)
Hillbuzz ^ | 04/25/10 | Hillbuzz

Posted on 04/25/2010 12:35:44 PM PDT by American Dream 246

One of the most ingenious things the Obama campaign did in 2008 was to nullify all questions about why he refused to produce his birth certificate, by stoking the “birther” conspiracy that he was not born in the United States and, thus, painting anyone who talked about his birth certificate as insane.

It’s classic magic trick distraction.

Whenever anyone questions why the current President of the United States refuses to release his original birth certificate, his followers immediately launch into an Alinsky-based attack on the person who brought the matter up — attacking that person as a “birther”.

This is a remarkably effective trick, because no one ever sees the REAL reason he does not want his birth certificate released. The “birther” screaming and yelling keeps attention focused away from what his original birth certificate would reveal about his father, Barack Hussein Obama Sr.

In 1961, when Obama was indeed born in Hawaii, his father would have most likely be listed as “Arab”, not black, on his birth certificate. Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was only 1/4 black, and identified himself as a Kenyan Arab. According to how the British would have recorded him in their documents back then, BHO Sr. would have been “Arab”.

Furthermore, if Hawaii’s birth certificates in 1961 were like our own birth certificates from Ohio, Texas, Pennsylvania, and New York in the 1970s, then Obama’s official and original birth certificate would have been handwritten, with the religion of his parents recorded under their names. That’s what all of our birth certificates say, anyway. ”Catholic” is listed under most of our mothers’ and fathers’ names, with “Baptist” and “Episcopalian” on two of those slots.

We’ve always believed the reason Obama does not produce his birth certificate is because his father is listed as “Arab” and “Muslim” on that form, which is what he would have been recorded as in 1961 in Hawaii.

That cuts against the narrative that Obama rode to the White House, which he affirmed in his 2010 census — which is that he is black. This is how he has chosen to self-identify, and it’s the tool he used to advance himself so fast through the Democrat Party. He even had William Ayers write two books all about his racial grievances.

None of that flies if the public sees that his father was an “Arab” “Muslim”, as recorded on that birth certificate.

The public would have a very bad reaction to this, and would look upon the Lightbringer as a fraud and liar.

The whole White House of cards would collapse. Re-election 2012 would be a non-starter.

Hence, the White House and every Democrat in office is doing everything it can to make sure Obama’s original birth certificate never sees the light of day.

We believe if efforts in Arizona, Georgia, and Oklahoma succeed and they, and other states, pass legislation requiring presidential candidates to produce their original birth certificates to appear on the 2012 ballot, there will be some sort of fire or other accident at the Hall of Records in Honolulu. Expect a discovery relative to that which announces Obama’s original birth certificate, on file in Hawaii, was destroyed in that fire or other mysterious accident (beneficial to the White House). Because Obama moved around so much as a child, and because his mother and grandmother are now dead, the White House will announce they are unable to locate his familial copies of his original birth certificate. Thus, the recently computer generated “Certificate of Live Birth” produced by Obama will be the only document available for public inspection.

Obama’s narrative depends on his father being a black atheist from Kenya…a “goat herder”.

The reason the birth certificate will never see the light of day is because it reveals his father to be an “Arab” “Muslim”, and damn proud of it.

What’s happened here is that Obama promoted a lie about who his father really was — and he did this to get elected to high office. Now in that office, he needs to do everything possible to protect and eternally perpetuate that lie, lest he lose it all.

And the main strategy for protecting the lie is to demonize anyone asking questions about it — which is the Alinsky Method. Attack anyone asking where the birth certificate is and why it won’t be produced, call them “birthers”, and paint them as crazy…so that no one ever stops to look at the REAL reason the White House won’t produce a simple document and end all controversy.

Because they do not want you to see that Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was an “Arab” “Muslim”, according to that document.


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To: Right_in_Virginia

I agree. More middle-eastern than african.


41 posted on 04/25/2010 1:49:00 PM PDT by redshawk
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To: Yo-Yo
Yep! Look at that photo. There is no way anyone ( including me) would be convinced that Obama is not half-black!

The argument that the birth certificate shows Obama Sr. to be Arab is not nearly enough to explain why Obama has gone to such extremes to prevent its release.

Oh...And by the way,....As far as lawyering up, it is far more significant that Obama used Department of Justice resources and U.S. attorneys to prevent the release of these common documents.

Obama WASTED Department of Justice resources at a time when plots were being laid to blow planes out of the sky, and KILL soldiers on their bases and recruitment centers.

If Obama is misusing the Department of Justice attorneys in an effort to play the game of “gotcha” on the birthers, I don't think Americans will be amused.

42 posted on 04/25/2010 1:49:03 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: American Dream 246
"Look upon him as a liar???" He IS a liar! How would you look any differently upon this communist POS than that????

I only know ONE thing! My original birth certificate is in my hand at this moment. It's hand written and and has the Cook County Seal on it. Anyone that wants to see is welcome. Any one who wants to examine it and try to prove it's a fraud is more than welcome. And I'm just a lowly proletarian. Don't you think this mulatto POS should have to do the same as the guy he is subjecting to communist control??????????????????

43 posted on 04/25/2010 1:52:44 PM PDT by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: American Dream 246
Because they do not want you to see that Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was an “Arab” “Muslim”, according to that document.
This is a declaratory statement. This statement indicates that the author has seen the document and knows conclusively what is on the document.
It’s classic magic trick distraction.
This article, and that sentence in particular, are classic magic trick distraction as well.

If you have the document produce it to prove that you know what it says, not what you believe it says. Then you don't have to speculate what "they" do and don't want Americans to see.
Otherwise, you're just blowing smoke rings. (which are a shaped like an "O")

44 posted on 04/25/2010 1:55:06 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: American Dream 246
In 1961, when Obama was indeed born in Hawaii, his father would have most likely be listed as “Arab”, not black, on his birth certificate.

His father would have been listed by whatever racial description he used when he personally filled out the form himself or volunteered the information to whatever clerk was filling out the form for him.

Furthermore, if Hawaii’s birth certificates in 1961 were like our own birth certificates from Ohio, Texas, Pennsylvania, and New York in the 1970s, then Obama’s official and original birth certificate would have been handwritten, with the religion of his parents recorded under their names.

Why do people try and pimp this garbage when a simple google search will quickly show that no Hawaiian birth certificate (nor I suspect any other state) has a field for religion of parents?

45 posted on 04/25/2010 1:56:29 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: American Dream 246

Two interesting things on my Chicago Cook County BC. First, it asks if the mother was tested for Syphilis. Second, it asks if the birth was legitimate. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!


46 posted on 04/25/2010 1:58:45 PM PDT by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: American Dream 246

I wish someone, anyone who was born in Hawaii would spend the money to order their original birth certificate from the Hawaii Department of Health and that they would then post it on the internet, just to embarrass Obama into doing the same thing.
Thus far no one that I know of has done that and the state says that you can’t get the a copy of the original from them any longer. They say that since 2001 only the computerized Certification of Live Birth version is available.


47 posted on 04/25/2010 2:05:13 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: Doc Savage

Two interesting things on my Chicago Cook County BC. First, it asks if the mother was tested for Syphilis. Second, it asks if the birth was legitimate. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!


None of that information is asked for on a Hawaii Long Form birth certificate.
http://bp2.blogger.com/_Pa2xrvJ7xpA/SGhdwbdXc-I/AAAAAAAAACA/wzwObxc8fjw/s1600-h/scan0001.jpg

There is no additional information on a Hawaii Long form that relates to constitutional eligibility to be president.


48 posted on 04/25/2010 2:15:17 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

The ‘Birther’ distraction is also to muudy the fact that even if born in Hawaii, Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen.


That’s not what the Marion (IN) County Superior Court and the Indiana Court of Appeals said and the Indiana Supreme Court refused to hear the case on appeal.

“Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by[the US Supreme Court in the case of US versus] Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. Just as a person “born within the British dominions [was] a natural-born British subject” at the time of the framing of the U.S. Constitution, so too were those “born in the allegiance of the United States natural-born citizens.”—Indiana Court of Appeals, Ankeny et. al. v The Governor of Indiana, Mitch Daniels, Nov. 12, 2009
http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/11120903.ebb.pdf


49 posted on 04/25/2010 2:25:36 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: LibertyRocks

Exactly. The Obama campaign also added reference to his British citizenship online that first week of November, 2008. Why then but not sooner, but to attempt to hide the issue in plain site?


50 posted on 04/25/2010 2:37:36 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: American Dream 246

The Hawaii Department of Health has confirmed that the Factcheck COLB is fraudulent, because

1) The HDOH made a statutory admission (and repeated it multiple times when asked about it) that Obama’s birth certificate has been amended. DOH administrative rules (which were illegally hidden from the public until Nov of 2009) say that all birth certificates (which includes the abbreviated certificate, or COLB) must note amendments. Since Factcheck doesn’t note the amendment we know it is a forgery. And

2) Janice Okubo has stated that all Oahu birth certificates have always been received by the state registrar and given a number by the state registrar on the same day - the “date filed”. The Factcheck COLB has a “date filed” 3 days before the Nordyke twins’ but a certificate number 2 later than theirs. In the past this has been explained by hospitals having pre-numbered certificates or by piles of BC’s sitting at different secretaries’ desks for 3 days awaiting processing. But Okubo has directly eliminated those explanations. Because the “date filed” and certificate number are incompatible we know that at least one or the other has been altered and the COLB is thus a forgery.

Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17 says that an amended birth certificate doesn’t qualify as prima facie evidence; it is mere legal hearsay - with the same probative value as the Kenyan birth certificates unless and until they are certified as authentic. DOH rules require an administrative or judicial person or body to view all supporting documents when an amended birth certificate is presented as evidence, because Hawaii doesn’t vouch for the accuracy of the claims.

The reason that Obama posted the forged COLB instead of the genuine one he has in his possession is because there are 2 items he needs to hide:

1) the certificate number of 151-2006-xxxxxx (which shows that he forged the certificate number AND that his BC was only completed in 2006); and

2) the note of the amendment, which means that the certificate is not prima facie evidence and the burden of proof thus falls on Obama to prove that the claims on the BC are accurate - rather than someone else to prove them false. That’s some serious doo-doo for him.

What poses a serious problem for him is that the amendment he made in 2006 appears to be to the medical portion of the birth certificate, which would only be necessary if a Hawaii doctor did not examine Obama within the first 30 days after the birth and complete the certificate. This amendment begs the question of where Obama was at birth if a Hawaii doctor couldn’t see him within 30 days.

Any legal proceeding would require Obama to show the genuine COLB, which would then require him to show the genuine original and all the supporting documents. Obama knows that if he has to do that, he’s toast. That’s why he is fighting the lawsuits so hard and why he will rescind military orders rather than allow a soldier to reach the discovery stage of a legal proceeding.

That’s why Lt Col Lakin’s stand is so vital - because he can’t simply be dismissed, and if he is found guilty in the military without being given a chance to defend himself via discovery, he can take it to federal court, with standing.

Documentation is at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/


51 posted on 04/25/2010 2:43:51 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: American Dream 246

obumpa


52 posted on 04/25/2010 3:04:31 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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To: IncPen

This birther stuff makes you wonder why Bill and Hillary didn’t exploit it.

They (Clintons and BO) are beholden to the same powers that be. When those powers told the Clinton’s that BO is the choice there was nothing they could do about it. Those powers have their thumb right over Bill and Hill. They could swat them down like a fly on the wall and utterly destroy them and they know that.


53 posted on 04/25/2010 3:52:35 PM PDT by Bluebeard16
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To: wintertime
How would you convince a 17 year old girl to take this responsibility of raising another woman's baby?

She didn't. The grandparents did.

And...Why would Obama Sr.( who has no blood relation to any of the parties involved in the conspiracy) be dumb enough to go along with the scam. ?

He had more than one 'wife'. Don't think it bothered him one bit. It probably had more to do with him being the recipient of funds from the Ford Foundation than with 'love'.

Sorry...This explanation is entirely to bizarre.

Perhaps. Sometimes reality is much stranger than fiction. It would be nice if the Precedent would show his birth certificate and help squash all these bizarre allegations.

54 posted on 04/25/2010 3:53:24 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: UCANSEE2
She didn't. The grandparents did.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Not until he was much older. It absolutely does not make sense that a 17 old would take on the responsibility of another woman's infant, or travel to Africa alone to help disguise the fact...Or...Get Obama Sr. to agree to such a scam.

And...I don't think Obama’s granny would be too keen on taking in another woman's 10 year old either.

Sorry...But to think that Obama and Stanley Ann were brother and sister is ridiculous. Even if they were it would not be enough for Obama to fight this so hard. If it were revealed that they were brother and sister, he could **easily** turn it to his advantage by claiming that, “See! Tough childhood, but I overcame!”

No one knows why Obama is going to so much trouble to hide these common documents. Hopefully, some day soon we will all know.

The most likely explanation is that Obama is hiding something that would get him thrown out of the White House and earn him some serious prison time.

55 posted on 04/25/2010 4:01:58 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: American Dream 246

The issue of Obama’s eligiblity is NOT about the Birth Certificate. The Birth Certificate is a “Red Herring”. While it may in fact be true that Obama SR. proudly declared himself to be an Arab, it has no bearing on the eligiblity issue, and bringing this into it will only muddy the waters, and bring more charges of racism.

Looking at the Certificates of Live Birth, issued to the Nordyke twins, who were born on August 5, 1961, there is no space on the documents listing the religion of either parent, so there is no reason to expect Obama’s would be any different.

The Obama’s father was NOT a US citizen, this is a fact commonly known around the entire globe, and it is this fact that makes Obama ineligible for office-Not the fact that he won’t release his original Birth Certificate.

The US Supreme Court has used the term “Natural Born Citizen” in a number of it’s rulings, and regardless of the subject matter of the case, the definition used in every case has always been the same - “Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.” Only an unreasonable person would expect the definition of the phrase “Natural Born citizen” would change when applied to Obama.


56 posted on 04/25/2010 4:17:40 PM PDT by chatter4
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To: bgill
Take a look and judge for yourself "The Muslim Call to Prayer is one of the Prettiest Sounds on Earth" - said Barack Obama to the New York Times Allah is greater than any description 
I testify that there is no deity except for Allah 
I testify that Muhammad is a Messenger of Allah 
Make haste towards the prayer 
Make haste towards the worship 
Prayer is better than sleep 
Allah is the greatest! 
There is no deity except for Allah
57 posted on 04/25/2010 6:09:23 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Drew68

His father would have been listed by whatever racial description he used when he personally filled out the form himself or volunteered the information to whatever clerk was filling out the form for him. (Drew68)

It doesn’t look like Barak Obama Sr. had anything to do with the birth certificate. If he did, he would have made sure that his son’s name was spelled like his own.

http://www.politico.com/static/PPM41_eastafrica.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama,_Sr.note 31


58 posted on 04/25/2010 6:30:13 PM PDT by charo
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To: charo

The word note should not appear in the link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama,_Sr.


59 posted on 04/25/2010 6:32:15 PM PDT by charo
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To: machogirl

That is interesting-so who was his black mother?


60 posted on 04/25/2010 6:34:34 PM PDT by GILTN1stborn
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